its like nova thing i think something like 20 or maybe less (how sucky) but u may want to do ice storm+blizzard cos they do like to leg it and the dmg isnt gr8
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It's not capped like the other nukes, because it's not like a regular power. It's summon type power, which means that the Blizzard is kind of like a Pet. Good luck trying to hit above the other Nukes AoE caps though, it's pretty much impossible without a troller backing you up. I'm looking forward to when you can buff it with aim and build up though.
All 'nova-type' powers (tier 9 blaster powers) are capped at the 16 AoE limit for them.
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Thanks to your feedback, we've changed the AOE values to:
Set a maximum number of targets that can be affected by most offensive powers:
Ranged AoE and Large PBAoE damage powers (like Nova), Ranged AoE and PBAoE Debuffs, Ranged AoE and PBAoE Controls powers are all set to 16.
Ranged cones, and Melee AoE (PBAoE) are set to 10.
Melee Cones are set to 5.
Taunts (including Tanker inherent Taunt - Gauntlet, aka 'PunchVoke') are set to 5.
Buffs are unaffected.
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aim, build up, power boost and 3 damage 3 slow enhancements should be enough for blizzard am i right?
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All 'nova-type' powers (tier 9 blaster powers) are capped at the 16 AoE limit for them.
edit:
Statesman sez:
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Thanks to your feedback, we've changed the AOE values to:
Set a maximum number of targets that can be affected by most offensive powers:
Ranged AoE and Large PBAoE damage powers (like Nova), Ranged AoE and PBAoE Debuffs, Ranged AoE and PBAoE Controls powers are all set to 16.
Ranged cones, and Melee AoE (PBAoE) are set to 10.
Melee Cones are set to 5.
Taunts (including Tanker inherent Taunt - Gauntlet, aka 'PunchVoke') are set to 5.
Buffs are unaffected.
This thread is for you to provide feedback to the Devs on the above issues. You are allowed to post ONCE in this thread. Make it count! If you post more than one time - the extra posts will be removed.
If a dev responds this count will be reset.
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[/ QUOTE ]Blizzard is LBAoE (location-based AoE), thus unaffected by maximum target cap.
Until issue 7 Aim, powerboost and build up don't affect Blizzard.
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yea i know, but that might be enough a blizzard 6 slotted 3 damage 3 slow. aim build up power boost blizzard. Will that slow them enough or do i need ice storm?
to me, i had a lvl 32 Ice/Ice blaster and i hated Blizzard so i deleted him 
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to me, i had a lvl 32 Ice/Ice blaster and i hated Blizzard so i deleted him
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Seems a little harsh. I'd rather ignore a power than delete a toon that high and start again. Now if you'd been talking about frozen aura I'd understand. 
Blizzard was always awkward because it needed a bit of planning to get the best out of it rather than the click and forget you get with other nukes.
Not really sure whats the best way to slot it now, pre-ED I used ice storm for slow and stacked it with Blizzard for damage. Three slots in IS maxed out slow so I'd assume 3 in Blizzard would do the same now.
Slotting it 3 damage, 3 ToHitDeBuff, and stacking it again with IS with 3 slows could be interesting, purely hypothetical though.
It's quite boring that blizzard does so poor compared to other nukes. It need's a buff badly.
To keep with the set, I'd much prefer it if Ice blast didn't have a nuke. Instead of blizzard I'd happily have an incredibly high damage sinlge target attack instead. Give it a long recharge, whateve (just don't make it take my end!) but I'd much rather have a power I could use to take one badass out of the fight for sure with no buffs rather than a DoT Location AoE that makes people run away and empty clips/lungs/sacks of gun powder into you.
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All 'nova-type' powers (tier 9 blaster powers) are capped at the 16 AoE limit for them.
edit:
Statesman sez:
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Thanks to your feedback, we've changed the AOE values to:
Set a maximum number of targets that can be affected by most offensive powers:
Ranged AoE and Large PBAoE damage powers (like Nova), Ranged AoE and PBAoE Debuffs, Ranged AoE and PBAoE Controls powers are all set to 16.
Ranged cones, and Melee AoE (PBAoE) are set to 10.
Melee Cones are set to 5.
Taunts (including Tanker inherent Taunt - Gauntlet, aka 'PunchVoke') are set to 5.
Buffs are unaffected.
This thread is for you to provide feedback to the Devs on the above issues. You are allowed to post ONCE in this thread. Make it count! If you post more than one time - the extra posts will be removed.
If a dev responds this count will be reset.
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[/ QUOTE ]Blizzard is LBAoE (location-based AoE), thus unaffected by maximum target cap.
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So you are saying it literally has NO AoE cap whatsoever?
not that i have a high lvl ice blaster, but i find it quite hard to believe really, if thats WAI, cryptic proves their inconsitancy. As LBAoE tier 9 powers (RoA and Blizzard) don't have that much lower of a Brawl Index value than other tier 9 powers.
So with what you are saying, Burn, Rain of Fire, Rain of Arrows (all location AoEs to my knowledge) shouldnt have a target limit aswell.... I don't recall any of that sorts. Would be neat for my (now low lvl) Archery defender
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give me a snipe in ice blast instead of blizzard and im happy or a snipe instead of snow storm or bitter freeze ray.
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give me a snipe in ice blast instead of blizzard and im happy or a snipe instead of snow storm or bitter freeze ray.
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A snipe would make us just plain uber. Bitter ice blast, with damage half way between a snipe and a point blank blast, but with three times the range of a point blank blast, it's meant to be the blancing factor. And it's awesome. Bitter ice blast makes a decent enough aslternative to a snipe when slotted for range acc and hold duartion; it stills can take someone out of the fight. Ice storm is a good slow and is useable (will be awesome for ice/energy with powerboost come i7) but the fear effect and lack of decent AoEs, makes the aggro it causes not as woth it as it might be.
blaze does more damage then bitter ice blast.
A snipe better than blizzard? If you got a teammate with any knockdown power like freezing rain/ earthquake or just a good slow power blizzard is pretty good... On its own though... it really is lacking but still definatly better than a snipe... never saw why people like them that much, any normal single target attack is more useful really...
blizzard can't kill 3+ foe's with 3 damage enhances in it.
A long time ago i posted a topic in Gen.discussion called "i'm not weak right?" or something like that. Then already was pretty clear Blizzard is lousy, stupid, low-dmg and no good at all. Note that at that time ED wasnt even around.
Though i still have it to show off, in battle i never use it anymore. Would have been better to replace it either by a snipe or a inferno/nova aoe nuke.
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blaze does more damage then bitter ice blast.
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But Power burst, shout, and all other point blanks, don't. But BIB has tripple the range of blaze.
I'd like a single target attack better than blizzard to, but a snipe would be useful to neutralise a single foe out of the game from the start. or to do a long range pull. I'd rather drop ice storm for that though.
Blizzard IS great with other powers, and EMP for the elec epic is a perfect pertner for it, but earliar on, I don't really want to rely on team composition to make use of my 'nue'. It is great with a controller but sometimes, one doesn't feel like social interaction or can't find someone at the right kind of level who you can trust to be useful. You don't have this prob in the evening, but during the day it can be a right [censored]. It better not censor that word...
doesn't change the fact that blaze does more damage then bitter ice blast. Give me a sniper attack instead of bitter freeze ray or ice storm and i'll be happy.
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doesn't change the fact that blaze does more damage then bitter ice blast. Give me a sniper attack instead of bitter freeze ray or ice storm and i'll be happy.
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No but damage isn't everything. You have to get sutpidly close to use blaze. STUPIDLY close. Now that's ok for a good blapper build but not for a normal build; if you are a pure blaster you need to keep your distance. BiB is much better as not only can you chain it but you can chain it with your ranged attacks as well. One range enhancement would bring the range to the same as your other attacks, but that isn'ttoo nessacary. It's a kick [censored] chainer without it.
Still doesn't change the fact that blaze does more damage then bitter ice blast. We're not talking about range here we're talking about damage.
Personally I'd say range is a significant factor - blaze is virtually melee range. On top of that, my understanding is blaze would not consistantly outdamage bitter ice blast because its base damage is slightly lower. The additional DoT can bring it higher than bitter ice blast, but not always.
EDIT: I would also note that bitter ice blast has -spd, -rchg and -acc as secondary effects, where fire's blaze has that DoT that provides the ever so slightly better (on average) damage.
Whilst I sorely doubt it would happen, it would certainly be interesting to see the set even more centred towards single target and cones perhaps? That is if they didn't have such an obsene activation time as the present one. As has been suggested, snow storm could be swapped out for a snipe, maybe blizzard could be swapped out for a cone similar to full auto, making it more regularly available and not draining all endurance. And to compliment that perhaps bitter freeze ray could become a cone hold, without its present damage and with a longer recharge presumably. Not that I'm too fussed about the snipe to be honest, I'm not too fond of them. Given ice blast's penchant for closer range and control, perhaps a short range disorienting attack like cosmic burst would be a better option?
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How many foes can this "nuke" hit is it capped at 16 or can it hit more?