I'll be there for the pentad win!
defiant coming tonight? wohoo 
I MIGHT be able to make it. I'm staying over my missus's house who has it too.
But i'll only come if i'm not too ..............busy....
great fun again very good matches especially against LNM, hope its pentad again next week as it is far more fun, if its 8man i'll still be there tho 
Pentad night keeps me playing.
World of Jackcraft.
First time attending and I had a blast
Great fun again, thanks for the matches everyone 
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Great fun tonight!, but I still like those 8 man matches. Its different and requires different tactics. If I cant get a team for next monday, Ill show up and offer myself to the first team that want my blaster.
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
Thanks you all for participating !
Tonight was especially crowded. I head that we were 57 at a time, watching the games and fighting one another ! 
A german team came, a new french team came !!! It is a real pleasure to see so many people getting interested in PVP !
There was so many teams that we did not had the opportunity to face every team. But we had a nostop fighting which was the point for those pentad night !
About next monday... I read that some of you wish that we play against in pentad... and I considered the arguing about that.
Unfortunately, I am not sure this is a good option.
The first purpose of this even was to give us the opportunity to fight in 8 team, and except for those monday events we can not play likewise. So this a rare opportunity we got, and so I would be sorry to let it go...
We saw tonight that we are a lots being interrested by the pvp, I am sure 8 team can be made, it needs a little bit of organization but it can be done. Everyone will have to be sharp on time, AFKing as briefly as possible, and it can be done!
Moreover, in my opinion, an 8 team matchs offer far more strategical diversity than a pentad where the use of a mighty power can unbalance the situation.
Being 8 allows a team to have a counter effect or an opportunity to fight back which can be impossible in pentad. (For example, my opponent use a repeling power and I do not have an anti-repel solution : I am stuck, my teammates play 4 against 5 
while in 8 team mode being 7 against 8 is not that bad and the situation can be more easily turned over.)
In 8 team, the team play seems to be stressed while in pentad it is more the use of the good power at the good moment which can make the difference (both are "skilled" by the way, but it refer to diffent kinds of skills (whatever "skill" means )).
To sum up, pentad is a way of playing, 8 team is another way of playing. I do think pleasure is in the changes, so we will keep the turn over between the mode event.
I am sorry for those who could not get an 8 team, but again I am sure that with a little bit of organization it could be done. If the messy French SGs can do it, you could do it too ! ^^
So next monday will be an 8 team night of fight.
Regarding how many teams will be there, we may play 20 minutes games. We will see.
Anyway see you next monday, I hope you will be as many as we were tonight with as much fun even if it will be a different playing mode and so a different fun !
See you !
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Well said!, speaking about counters for pentad. Thats why I kinda ended up thinking you need a kin troller and an empath defender for the best team. Since this is the only solution that offers counters to most things.
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
Im sorry, but I really dont agree. 8 man is far more reliant on the builds chosen than pentad, and is much less to do with any 'skill' involved imo.
Don't get me wrong though. I am more than happy to play 8 man (if we can get 8...)
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Just saying thanks for dragging me to the test server although I was far from excited to play my tank..
Good event again, new teams have come, as Huurl said that's a a great pleasure for us.
Now to the pentad or 8v8 question, we consider that the Mondays PVP Event was previously made to play 8v8 because as it has well said by my friend, it shows more strats and counters.
That said I love pentad (how to live without 5uper 
) and I personnaly find it as balanced as 8v8 games. I think the idea of make both 5v5 & 8v8 is better to improve teamplay and skills because it is 2 differents ways to play. 8v8 also allow us to let play more gamers, play with more reroll, satisfy almost all our mates and prepare SG for the incomming base attacks.
Now I hope more teams will born next weeks so it will be easier to have lot of fights as for the pentad nights.
Thanks again for the meeting and cya next week to fight 8v8
personally i think its a lot harder to counter attacks or tactics in pentad than 8man and thats where i believe there is more skill in pentad, i'll still be there for the 8man tho i probably wouldnt mind at all if we could find a regular 8man team, we have a regular 6 but struggle to fill the other 2 places usually
Thanks for the invitation, Huurl.
It was really great fun and I think we did well (2 wins, 4 losses) with our completely anti-ubber team : 1 claws scrapper, 1 fire tanker, 1 controller for whom it was the second PvP match in its career, 1 defender and 1 blaster testing a new respec We saw our problems too (lack of target assist, lack of being compact being the two most important), coming from the fact we never PvPed together.
Two special messages :
- the first to Knight Stalker. You're the overall best scrapper I've ever seen. Amazing. And your team was fantastic too. You're the ones who defeated us the most widely (0 kill for us).
- the second to Ric (Headsplitter). Look after your girlfriend with attention, she may be with another man . Heck, every time you attacked me, you did a critical. And a critical on a defender
The bad point is I'm getting sick and tired to see the same builds everywhere : storm controllers, energy (blasters, tankers), psi epics for trollers and defenders, body mastery epics for scrappers...
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The bad point is I'm getting sick and tired to see the same builds everywhere : storm controllers, energy (blasters, tankers), psi epics for trollers and defenders, body mastery epics for scrappers...
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Thats how it is in PVP, blame the designers for gimping the other sets..
Note: I took part in 2 matches in the paragon defenders team as my invul/mace tank (in current pve build even with stuff like fly). Obviously the secret "enemy immobilized with laughter" power worked well since we won with numbers something like 44-0 and 35-1. Im sure it had little to do with me, though..
We did 5 wins with my fire/ice blast (the 1st toon I made) which was his first PVP in Arena experience and a rad troller so I think we can do great with or without storms or blast xxx/nrj.
I agree the gameplay can be quiet easier with some builds but a well played toon, skills and a good teamwork will almost always rise and own.
I was part of the "anti-ubber team".
It is really interesting to see that common used tactics are very different from one server to another.
@Knight Stalker' s team: something like 30 to 0... waouw. Defender, Troller & Blaster using flight was very annoying... nice tactic
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Two special messages :
- the first to Knight Stalker. You're the overall best scrapper I've ever seen. Amazing. And your team was fantastic too. You're the ones who defeated us the most widely (0 kill for us).
The bad point is I'm getting sick and tired to see the same builds everywhere : storm controllers, energy (blasters, tankers), psi epics for trollers and defenders, body mastery epics for scrappers...
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Two special replies ,
On point 1 - Thanks for saying that to knight stalker, his head will have swollen beyond its already massive proportions. I would be surprised if the the server will handle the weight tonight!
On point 2 - I agree AND disagree with you here My controller against you was Ill/Rad. Yes, there are good number of stormies out there, but some of the most awesome combos for pvp havent ever been tested!! See X3's fire/kin and you'll run. Earth/Rad and Earth/Kin both awesome, as is Cherry Drops's, Grav/FF. I am currently toying with a Fire/FF. A lot of these are excellent potential pvp builds.
Also, my troller does not have the psi epic. The reason for taking psi would be IW. IW is easily surpassed, and cannot be made perma anymore. I am teamed with an empath so clear mind ftw. Oh and gimme powerboost/conserve power any day.
And just to be awkward, my BS/regen scrapper will not have body mastery.
Really though, any team is going to try and take in the best potential team they can, and for many new teams taking it up, they are just going to go with what they think will work, as i'm sure a team consisting of claws/da, Ar/fire, fire/TA, TA/Archery, Fire/WM wouldn't be too hot. Unless LMN want to roll up such a pentad team?
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Im sorry, but I really dont agree. 8 man is far more reliant on the builds chosen than pentad, and is much less to do with any 'skill' involved imo.
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Totally correct. There is no argument to this. In eight man what's to stop a team fronting up 8 scrappers? 8 scrappers chasing down the same target ftw.
With pentad, you know exactly what number of each AT you'll be facing, maybe not necessarily the builds, but still, the skill is in the tactics.
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Im sorry, but I really dont agree. 8 man is far more reliant on the builds chosen than pentad, and is much less to do with any 'skill' involved imo.
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Totally correct. There is no argument to this. In eight man what's to stop a team fronting up 8 scrappers? 8 scrappers chasing down the same target ftw.
With pentad, you know exactly what number of each AT you'll be facing, maybe not necessarily the builds, but still, the skill is in the tactics.
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I thought the rules in the 8-man matches were to have a max of two of each AT? (Not an official rule of course)
Yea, that's correct, max 2 of each.
In 8 man, kin is essential. Our Union Allstar team has yet to play with a kin in 8vs8 and have done only moderately well because of this. Our tank and scrapper just get slowed to death and the stormies rule all. In pentad there is no sets that are essential (except probably empathy). Like I said though, I'm happy to play the alternating weeks as we have done so far
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The bad point is I'm getting sick and tired to see the same builds everywhere : storm controllers, energy (blasters, tankers), psi epics for trollers and defenders, body mastery epics for scrappers...
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Well, I made my /en blaster before PvP even existed. Not my fault he turned into an uber death machine
Oh, and Knight Stalker? pssshhh, he just kept stealing all my kills
Jupiter is slow looking into his notebook, but he always looks.
The [b]Retribution[/b] is coming.
[url="http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/Valens_ii/"]Some of my toons[/url]
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The bad point is I'm getting sick and tired to see the same builds everywhere : storm controllers, energy (blasters, tankers), psi epics for trollers and defenders, body mastery epics for scrappers...
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Oh, and Knight Stalker? pssshhh, he just kept stealing all my kills
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says the biggest kill stealer on COH, ever...
Tonight is pentad night. Or 5uper or 5 star or what ever you wanna call it.
50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr