Funny but not so funny....
well theres one thing being in the thick of it all and just killing whatever comes into your veiw which was what was happening tonight and no malice or killstealing was intended however I personally get annoyed when a fight is going down and a certain 2 lettered named scrapper comes in and killsteals at the very last moment, I usually know the heros I am fighting and want someone who has worked hard enough to put me down to get the reward not some opportunist who runs around sending random insults over tells.
Basically I can see the 2 sides to this
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hmmm there is a major difference to what you say from what i say. In first case i am talking to normal PvP tactics where there is no time to see what exactly goes on due to intensity of the moment. The case you describe is a lamer that intentionally waits for the rest to do the work and last moment he jumps in to steal the kill. Maybe i didnt phrase what i said right but i am talking about regular situations and not intentional killstealing.
Had a certain stalker do the lame proper killsteal type on me twice tonight in sirens. Waited till i'd 2/3rds killed my foe in a fair fight away from main action, he flys in, AS, kills my opponent, then flys off. Twice within 5mins, if he'd of done it a third time he was getting petitioned, and I swear he was doing it to others aswell.
I agree, in PvP things can happen so quickly you dont always have time to conciously think about whats going on. As a sapper it takes me all day to kill someone, i rely on others doing damage once i make someone too weak to fight back. I'd rather it was someone in my team doing the honours though.
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There's really only one way to make this better and thats to give the majority of the kill to the main fighter and if someone comes in and kills the the enemy with very little effort they should get a smaller fraction of the goods,like it is in PvE vs mobs.
I will kill steal in pvp whenever I get the chance if I'm getting bounty for it. I'm a villain. I want SO's. I want to sell SO's for money. Because I'm vain. And spend lots of time in Facemaker. Must have those new pants.
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There's really only one way to make this better and thats to give the majority of the kill to the main fighter and if someone comes in and kills the the enemy with very little effort they should get a smaller fraction of the goods,like it is in PvE vs mobs.
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Stop talking sense /em slap
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zomg someone with sense !? :O kill it!! XD
you are SO asking for a /petition if you keep making sense! I'm sure theres something in the EULA that forbids making sense
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you are SO asking for a /petition if you keep making sense! I'm sure theres something in the EULA that forbids making sense
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what u mean asking?i already have petitioned for excessive sensibility
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"01-23-2006 01:04:12 [Broadcast]Random Stalker: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>whoever's using TP Foe stop godamned kill stealing!!!!"
Now this made me laugh as the stalker was actually getting advantage of us flooring everything around and getting involved where our group stood and also coming close for buffs and heals. But thats not the point.
In the current PvP zones and ESPECIALLY Sirens you cannot argue about killstealing. Thats my opinion of course noone has to share it but as far as i am concerned many times i have been in Sirens Call alone with my Controller i never complain if i just hold the villains and a passing by hero does the honours.
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You CAN argue about kill stealing in Siren's ... but I wouldn't in the case you outlined (and if you did, it sounds like it could be argued that he was leeching off you anyway). We have a couple of 'heroes' on Union that delight in coming in and laying the smack down on villains when some other sod has spent the time whittling them down. To the point where a friend begged me to confuse them, so they could attack this other "hero".
As for TP foe being kill stealing, the activation time of it is such that you'd have to be reasonably good to time it after an AS but before the second (queued up) attack.
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I kill steal all the time in Siren's Call... but that only because others do it to me . Once I've fired off Knockout Blow, to try keeping the opponent from running away (because if they do, I might as well just stop - not being able to do anything to them - apart from Brawl, heh), I usually lack the offensive power to finish off the opponent (squishy or not) - Knockout Blow, Haymaker, Punch, Jab and Brawl can take them down to 25%-ish HP
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you are SO asking for a /petition if you keep making sense! I'm sure theres something in the EULA that forbids making sense
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what u mean asking?i already have petitioned for excessive sensibility
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:O we must hunt down these 'sensible' people, they're totally dangerous XD
also..........ive just noticed i have a spam campaign going on lmao XD
With all the self heals the villians have (corrupters, MMs, Brutes) I'm not fussed. Anybody can jump in, I'm only there to have some fun. I try not to moan a lot, if there's something like 6 villians outside the hospital base, tp foe and then mauling them to death then meh, you do that. Karma shall return, 5 trollers will turn up, and Frazzy will be sniping said tp-er from a comfortable 200ft in the air. It happens.
There's a lot of grey lines. I'll leave PVP if it becomes a stupid place to be with flamey messages and so on, and I don't jump in when an entire team is beating a poor brute into the ground, not much fun in that really.
Sirens Call 23 January somewhere around 10pm....
Well hanging out in the PD's teamspeak while levelling a villain and we decide to hit sirens call as villains to give heroes a challenge. The usual team was already there as the last arrived to team up. 5corruptors 1 dominator an MM and one stalker (obot) as we start to kill the heroes around and push them all the way to the base. Making a nice 14k of bounty in an hour and loads of kills due to heroes lack of tactics.
While all this going on and obviously we were center of attention as we were the only organised villains team while some random villains take part in the whole thing and as the heroes are focused on us trying to break us suddenly this pops up in broadcast:
"01-23-2006 01:04:12 [Broadcast]Random Stalker: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>whoever's using TP Foe stop godamned kill stealing!!!!"
Now this made me laugh as the stalker was actually getting advantage of us flooring everything around and getting involved where our group stood and also coming close for buffs and heals. But thats not the point. The point is when some people will realise that Sirens is not Mercy island or Atlas Park where u hunt snakes or any level 1 mobs and that they are actually in a large scale conflict zone where the main objective in the zone is Heroes vs Villains and not 1vs1 locked down fights. With 10-12 heroes around us spamming Freezing rain debuffs slows and fire blasts do some people actually expect that we wont go for anything coning red to us?That we will sit down and actually observe while all this goes on who is attacking who? Lets face it when it comes down to PvP zones and especially a zone like Sirens where its obviously what the purpose of each side is there is no such thing as kill stealing unless of course there are 3 people in the zone and u do it on purpose. And still if u have the same bounty whoever takes the kill first is the lucky one. So please leave the whole killstealing mentallity in Atlas park and the PvE zones where it belongs. In the current PvP zones and ESPECIALLY Sirens you cannot argue about killstealing. Thats my opinion of course noone has to share it but as far as i am concerned many times i have been in Sirens Call alone with my Controller i never complain if i just hold the villains and a passing by hero does the honours. Simply because it gets the job done faster than i would.