stealth?


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started tinkering with the idea about getting stealth-> Invisibility-> phase shift on my tank.
30 secs of complete immortality does have a certain appeal to it. Also, I worked in a suitable concept on how it would fit the rest of my powers, and thats probably the most important part.
Any thoughts about this?

Ive run some numbers thru hero builder and it would seem i would get a pretty good defence (much better than just weave) against all 'part psionics.
I know some people like tough and weave.. but i really dont need another attack, and as Invulnerable I've got a really good resist against S/L anyway.

My worries are End issues, (i plan on at least double slot for end redux) althought this might be mitigated a bit with conserve power that I took as my 1st (and only) ancillary.

second issue is, since Psi is more or less my achilles heel, will Phase shift protect against this?


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[...] second issue is, since Psi is more or less my achilles heel, will Phase shift protect against this?

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Phase Shift protects you from all and any incoming damage, being intangible .

Of course, it's only for that limited duration and you can only activate powers affecting yourself while phased - as far as I understand it.


 

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The question you have to ask yourself is this - if I'm tanking for a large team and I suddenly pop phase shift, where will all the aggro go? Nowhere good is the quick answer


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The question you have to ask yourself is this - if I'm tanking for a large team and I suddenly pop phase shift, where will all the aggro go? Nowhere good is the quick answer

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It's the ultimate Statesman Tanker utility. Taking on S/L minions, and if greater ranked mobs or mobs dealing other damage would happen to be aggroed to him, pop Phase Shift and let the rest of the team deal with it .


 

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The question you have to ask yourself is this - if I'm tanking for a large team and I suddenly pop phase shift, where will all the aggro go? Nowhere good is the quick answer

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It's the ultimate Statesman Tanker utility. Taking on S/L minions, and if greater ranked mobs or mobs dealing other damage would happen to be aggroed to him, pop Phase Shift and let the rest of the team deal with it .

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yeeess.. thats also a concern i suppose.. will gauntlet and taunt from invincibility be enough to keep the mobs attention to me...

thats prolly a question towards anyone who has ever used Phase shift.. tanker or no. If the AI of the mobs think "I cant hurt this one" and runs over to another.. then yes, i guess its less useful.

apart from that, i was more thinking of it as a power to be used when the **** hits the fan, like if im running on US to avoid a teamwipe and see the imminent crash getting closer.

Lasting 30sec makes it sound like a click power, but my manual says toggle.. so will it untoggle when i crash?
tell you what, ill try it out, I can always respec if it dont turn out like i'd like it,


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Badge lvl 50 dwarf/human Peacebringer
Dark Air lvl 50 Ice/Cold Corruptor
Ayre lvl 50 Storm/Elec Defender

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Lasting 30sec makes it sound like a click power, but my manual says toggle.. so will it untoggle when i crash?
tell you what, ill try it out, I can always respec if it dont turn out like i'd like it,

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It is a toggle, but it automatically detoggles after 30 seconds, for balance reasons. It will untoggle when Unstoppable crashes


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Phase Shift protects you from all and any incoming damage, being intangible .


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It lets you solo heart of Hamidon badge! Woot!


 

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This is basically the same as Hibernate for an Ice Tank.

Hitpoints get low -> Turn on Hibernate -> aggro shifts to team -> team dies -> 30 seconds later you die.

I.e., I wouldn't recomend it. If nothing else it will make you extreamly unpopular.


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Phase shift use to be a blasters best friend until they changed it, i dont think i have ever seen a tank with invis/phase shift as its not i dont think what a tank is for or built for, the idea with tanks is to to take as much aggro and damage so the team has the time to take down the enemy with aoe powers etc etc, even if you play solo i dont see the point of invis/phase shift as being a tank you should have no problems taking a solo map.
I agree with PRAF68 you will not be popular in teams if you use phase shift. Still its up to you in the end.


 

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This is basically the same as Hibernate for an Ice Tank.

Hitpoints get low -> Turn on Hibernate -> aggro shifts to team -> team dies -> 30 seconds later you die.

I.e., I wouldn't recomend it. If nothing else it will make you extreamly unpopular.

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But if you are going to die anyway then what is the problem? At least this way there is a chance that you may be able to return to the frey with some team members still alive...