Regen Stalker?


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How good are they? What primary is good to go with them? And what powers are good, besides integration?


 

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IMO regen is a weak powerset for a stalker, particually in PvP, since lower defense = hit more often = hide suppressed more often = fewer asassin strikes.

You coul build a scrapper-ish PvE Stalker. EM would be a good primary as you could stun your oponents while you regenerate, as well as regenerating the self damage from Energy transfer.


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Reason I asked was my Regen scrapper while not even slightly built for PvP is pretty damn good, can take a hell of a lot of damage before anything breaks. With one toggle (Integration) I need to be toggle dropped and held before I get close to death. (Or I need to be coming out of battle so having used all my clickies. )

So because I know the regen set well I was thinking it'd be quite good, shows what I know huh?


 

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Problem is that your regen rate depends upon your Max HP. All regen does (aside from Dull Pain) is increase the percentage of HP regained at each tick.

Scrappers have Moderate HP, Stalkers have Low. So a regen Scrapper is at a constant advantage over a regen Stalker because he regenerates more HP per tick.

I have two regen scrappers, so, obviously, I picked a regen Stalker for beta. I was alarmed at how lousy her regen rate was, quite frankly, and the live version of that character is a ninjutsu stalker. (Who should be even better in I7. )


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Defense is the prime option for a Stalker as with a little luck it allows you to stay in melee and have your "Hidden" status click back in for a sneaky critical.

I went for Energy Aura for that reason (and to be thematic with a Robotic concept)


 

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I think regen is good for a PvE stalker. My EM/regen does (in PvE at least) much better than my ninja/ninja did at the same levels.

It might not be as good in PvP when compared to other sets, or might be inferior to a regen scrapper, but it's still a good set.

EDIT: Than again, defense is to get a boost in PvE, so who knows...


 

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i like Regen too, just got it for my stalker and it seems like being pretty handy compared to ninjitzu in PvE as you have to toggle to many things and waste to much energi imo... and if you use dull pain you get very much more hp and that can keep you in the fight, hopefully also in pvp havnt had the chance to try it out yet tho ^^


 

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Dull Pain + Instant Healing is great in PvP so far I've beat 1 regen scrapper on my stalker but only had a fight with 2 :P


 

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hmm fast healing for a stalker yes/no ?


 

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I think it has some sort of knockback resistence or something which the other sets dont have. Least thats what i heard.


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Integration is a brilliant status resist power, but you're going to lose a lot of regenerative ability to the lowered HP.


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well my stalker does very well in pvp n pve ;D trick to regen in pvp is to just not hang around unless you got no choice then Instant Heal kicks in + dull pain and then you tank everything near ya ;D mind you resilience is a load of rubbish and worthless


 

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Dont know about most but i like REGEN for pve , cause it makes my stalker more like scrapper .

Skipped fasthealing , took reconstruction and dullpain .
It allows me to scrap it out with 5 minions .
Take down a Boss when AS misses.
Sofar so good can only get beter .


 

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Regen ftw.. normally a stalker isnt hit if you got nin or SR, but with regen you become a immortal deathmachine! if you get hit.. so what you got intergration which heals you up pretty fast. Then they do some bad dmg, cuz your intergration+fast healing wont keep up in the long run but then you use dull pain which not only boost your hp but also heals you the amount so if you use it right youll get full hp + then boosted max hp XD .. then when he hits you down again you still got reconstruction which heals pretty much (max is about 50-60%) and then you still got your instant heal... how much hp do you think your enemy have left now ?


 

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Regen ftw.. normally a stalker isnt hit if you got nin or SR, but with regen you become a immortal deathmachine! if you get hit.. so what you got intergration which heals you up pretty fast. Then they do some bad dmg, cuz your intergration+fast healing wont keep up in the long run but then you use dull pain which not only boost your hp but also heals you the amount so if you use it right youll get full hp + then boosted max hp XD .. then when he hits you down again you still got reconstruction which heals pretty much (max is about 50-60%) and then you still got your instant heal... how much hp do you think your enemy have left now ?

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If he's a regen scrapper then you'll be running for the hills screaming like a girl before then, but it's nice to know regen stalkers have some potential. Although still low lvl that's what mine is


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If he's a regen scrapper then you'll be running for the hills screaming like a girl before then, but it's nice to know regen stalkers have some potential. Although still low lvl that's what mine is

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I have NOT tested it, but as far as I've seen:
Build Up + AS + Energy Transfer + Placate + Strongest thing you got left = a LOAD of damage very fast. I wonder... if a regen isn't paying attention, he should be as good as dead.


 

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Build Up + AS + Energy Transfer + Placate + Strongest thing you got left = a LOAD of damage very fast. I wonder... if a regen isn't paying attention, he should be as good as dead.

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Hmmmm, not sure what energy transfer does, but (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) even with build up (In Sirens Call) an AS can expect to do somewhere on the low side of 700points of damage. The regen scrapper will still have in the order of 300hps left.
Yes you can catch a regen scrapper unawares and I got brought down last night because I was fighting someone else, when the AS hit I went from 80% to 10% like lightning and the next 10% went before I could fire off reconstruction.

When I went back for revenge I went in with DP and IH fired up and caused some mayhem. I was ASd THREE times as fast as the stalker could manage and they barely made a dent, but it wasn't the stalker I was after - it was the damn bubbler MM.
Can ANYONE hit them?


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I think regen is good for a PvE stalker. My EM/regen does (in PvE at least) much better than my ninja/ninja did at the same levels.

It might not be as good in PvP when compared to other sets, or might be inferior to a regen scrapper, but it's still a good set.

EDIT: Than again, defense is to get a boost in PvE, so who knows...

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Well you have a much better primary for PvP so I would guess that your new toon will be better in PvP aswell as PvE.


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The damage index for ET is pretty huge, which is why you can't get criticals on it. Before issue 6 I was one-shotting red minions with my tank using ET. The recharge is quite good and it animates fast too (which is more than I can say for TF).

I'm curious to see what happens when ET is combined with MoG, which is why I have created a NRG/regen stalker myself now.

How about this for a possible exploit: You are in a tight spot staring death in the face. You hit MoG, then use ET (dunno how many it would take) to kill yourself. When you cause your own death you get NO DEBT. You are now effectively invunerable, so just wait for the right moment and hit Revive.


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mind you resilience is a load of rubbish and worthless

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In PvP Resilience is damn good IMO, with all those */nrg blasters and meleers out there, more resistance to stun is a god send, not worth enhancing for dmg resistance tho.


 

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mind you resilience is a load of rubbish and worthless

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In PvP Resilience is damn good IMO, with all those */nrg blasters and meleers out there, more resistance to stun is a god send, not worth enhancing for dmg resistance tho.

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damn right jiaozy


 

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mind you resilience is a load of rubbish and worthless

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In PvP Resilience is damn good IMO, with all those */nrg blasters and meleers out there, more resistance to stun is a god send, not worth enhancing for dmg resistance tho.

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damn right jiaozy

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Buildup+AS+Total Focus+placate+et = win

hitting et while hidden negates the hp loss + allows it to get those criticals, hence using it after placate

then hit whichever regen power takes your fancy, and start again