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Without going into a complete breakdown of powerset vs powerset, I'll point out that any AT with the ability to heal itself (especially if said heal also acts as a debuff) is a serious threat in a PvP situation - even relatively-weak auto-heals.
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I dont think no was has said a corruptor isn't a threat. I know that if a blaster lets there guard down I can take them down and them finish off.
Regarding the heals, useful yes but all they have done for me is to delay the innevitable.
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All in all, I haven't had a problem with blasters, one on one. Two on me will probably cause problems and I think I won't be able to cope.
But I still think although Blasters may have the firepower, Corruptors can match them in other ways.
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Still don't believe a corruptor can stand tall against a blaster. Yes we have other tricks but I see the difference in fire power (for the majority of corruptors) as too much.
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Once Blasters have less then half health, Scourge will come into play and it'll be too late before they can use Defiance.
Also just to point out, I PvP in Siren's so the level's capped at 30.
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I have not managed to get a blaster (one on one) into the red so they themselves dont get to use defiance. I PvP in Sirens as well and dont consider myself a bad player. I have just come to the conclusion that blasters beat corruptors in a straight fight.
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Heals? Yeah, nice... as long as they hit. And hitting in PvP is even worse then in PvE. While 100% hit self heals are usually rather weak, and won't really make a difference (like the Freakshow healing before they die- annoying, but not really a problem).
Getting back to blasters damage. One thing I'd like to know, is if they do more damage overally (build up aside). I mean... if I'd take the same skill, a blaster and a corrptor with equal lvls, and no buffs nor enhancements, would the blaster do more damage with that skill?
If the answer is yes, then you can already see where it is going. More damage overally+more extra damage from enhancements (which are percentage based) + Build up = a lot more than a corruptor can dish out... and in a short time too.
It sometimes feels like the villains are missing a ranged damage dealer class. We get brutes, who are good when enraged, stalkers, who are one-hit wonders (close range so far), and then we get corruptors... which odly are far behind in dealing damage. And no wonder people think of corruptors as a support class, and tag 'em with the "you heal me, OK buddy?" tag.
If any PvP oriented corrupters would like to have a test fight in the arena (at any level) or in a PvP zone, I'd be more than willing to bring Gat along.
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If any PvP oriented corrupters would like to have a test fight in the arena (at any level) or in a PvP zone, I'd be more than willing to bring Gat along..
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hahahaha...
corruptor vs the elec/en blaster that 'killed' more people during the s4 pvp competition, than all the other union pvp teams blasters put together... 
cool. when you wanna rock? 
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If any PvP oriented corrupters would like to have a test fight in the arena (at any level) or in a PvP zone, I'd be more than willing to bring Gat along.
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I hear you are a wanted blaster. My friend Dooms Day (another blaster) would like to fight you sometime. Should be an interesting fight. What are you doing tomoz as you may be able to have this fight after the arena test server rumble (which ofcourse you would be very welcome to join).
Heros
Max Powerz: Lv 50 Tanker
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LF SG! Arc ID# 193083
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It sometimes feels like the villains are missing a ranged damage dealer class. We get brutes, who are good when enraged, stalkers, who are one-hit wonders (close range so far), and then we get corruptors... which odly are far behind in dealing damage. And no wonder people think of corruptors as a support class, and tag 'em with the "you heal me, OK buddy?" tag.
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Not sure, I feel I deal decent damage at range, for a Corruptor anyway. Fair enough as the basic principle that Melee will always be stronger then Ranged, but I feel again it depends on your build.
Most times if a minion of the same lvl doesn't have resistence to Lethal damage, I can take one out with Snipe followed by Shotty. That's taking one out before they can even get close.
Though AoE would probably be my strong point, and that causes way too much aggro, and debt to follow, but all fun fun fun
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I'll take you up on that when I get a Corruptor to an equivalent level, Gat.
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Not sure, I feel I deal decent damage at range, for a Corruptor anyway. Fair enough as the basic principle that Melee will always be stronger then Ranged, but I feel again it depends on your build.
Most times if a minion of the same lvl doesn't have resistence to Lethal damage, I can take one out with Snipe followed by Shotty. That's taking one out before they can even get close.
Though AoE would probably be my strong point, and that causes way too much aggro, and debt to follow, but all fun fun fun
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Well, when I solo, I usually do the following: turn Shadow Fall on, and try to find a large number of "white" enemies. I cast Darkest Night on the one who's the "last" one, then I run all the way back, getting aggro from all those wites along the way and duck behind a crorner, and then AoE their [censored] to hell in a few hits. That's really nice, solo especially.
As I said, corruptors are a really nice class to play solo. A class that can deal damage and heal can do quite a lot.
But AoE does't work well in PvP. In PvP it's all about single target damage, and that's where a blaster has the upper hand. Also, not every PvE encounter is good for AoE... or debuffs. In larger teams, where the enemies are higher lvl and there's a whole lot more of em, throwing AoE almost always means instant death. And a corruptor is nothing like a dominator/controller, so you can't "debuff" those enemies over there, who are killing your team, because the debuffs aren't THAT good, and it's AoE all over again (meaning: you get hit).
There are quite a few points that I agree with you there Soul Warden.
Solowise that sounds like a pretty nice and fun strategy there. Narrow coridors are my favourite, few trip mines alone the way, ignite the door, then 2 AoE attacks to finish the job.
Howver I usually play in a team, nowadays its the same team everynight, we have a great laugh and we all know what each other's like and get the job done.
But to the point, yes, AoE isn't too helpful in PvP which is one of the Corruptor's stronger points. Personally in PvP I'd go for the weakest AT first, or if it's a team we all concentrate on one person.
In terms of facing large groups of high level mobs, AoE is pretty much instant doom. In this case, my build accomadates for me to support team mates and single out minions.
Although I do have a nasty habit of just hitting AoE, dying, and my mates casting Vengeance and Rez
Isnt that your job on the team soul?
Hah you bet Flick! You're my witness in that
But everyone knows that it's always Psi's fault when something goes wrong, Addiction saves me most of the time though, so when he's not around it takes me a few deaths to realise I can't run in like the mad Irish bomber from Sin City.
I've died so many times now it doesn't even bother me anymore! Best team I've ever been in
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I hear you are a wanted blaster. My friend Dooms Day (another blaster) would like to fight you sometime. Should be an interesting fight. What are you doing tomoz as you may be able to have this fight after the arena test server rumble (which ofcourse you would be very welcome to join).
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Unfornalty Gat cant make it tonight as he cant get test working 
But on a brighter note we had our little match and all I want to say on the matter is ICE/DEV/COLD= Blaster killer . I would love to get a few more match's v blaster's so send me a tell if interested.
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What? AoE or heals?
If it's heals, I try to provide them. But if someone want's me to be a dedicated healer, they'll get dissapointed (UNLESS the enemies are all pruple, and the rest of the team is much higher in lvl than me...). If it's AoE... well, yellows, in limited ammounts I can handle. But as soon as orange or red (God forbid purple) mobs appear, casting AoE means certain death. Perhaps I've been teaming up with poor players, but I ALWAYS got agroed, and even if I survive the first strike, no one's there to help me with the second. SURE... there's a strong chance for a rez afterwards, but hey! I already got debt, thank's a lot. :/
But that's not the point, is it? It's about blaster vs corruptor dammage.
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hahahaha...
corruptor vs the elec/en blaster that 'killed' more people during the s4 pvp competition, than all the other union pvp teams blasters put together...
cool. when you wanna rock?
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Mildly OT
The comment on defeating more than the other blasters combined, was that fact or just a more general statement on a high KO rate?
The only reason I'm asking is that other than winning or losing our matches I never took much interest in what happened in other matches. For a while we did talk about who KO'd more between myself and Rose Knight in our team, actually never did find out .
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just found out that dominator primary is less accurate than controller primary, is this the same with corrupter vs. blaster? i.e. does the same primary set on a corrupter have less accuracy or dmg than a blaster?
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how do you know all this stuff is there a website?
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Mildly OT
The comment on defeating more than the other blasters combined, was that fact or just a more general statement on a high KO rate?
The only reason I'm asking is that other than winning or losing our matches I never took much interest in what happened in other matches. For a while we did talk about who KO'd more between myself and Rose Knight in our team, actually never did find out .
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Yea, i think that's a fact. I ended up with about 160 kills across 10 matches. Cherry Fusion produced some interesting stats at the time but they disappeared along with the old forums.
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Wow, that's a lot of kills...and a lot of matches 
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Had a hunt on the contingency forums and found some results up to server semis. We played 4 rounds with one rematch (a massive 6-6 in the original match 
) to that point. I managed 74 kills by that stage, which was nice.
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If you were fighting a good blaster (take for example gatling) they wouldnt walk head on into battle with you so you could hit them with ur debuffs, they would be stealthy and by the time you knew where they were you would be dead in 2 hits.
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I'm sorry, is there some unwritten rule that states Corrupters cannot be equally stealthy? As much as Blasters can sneak up on Corruptors, Corruptors can sneak up on Blasters - you don't have to be waiting for someone to pop up in front of you in order to debuff them, you know. FYI, as Gatling is an Elec/Energy Blaster, he'd find his work much more difficult with Shadow Fall in front of him, as would any Energy Blaster - speaking as an Energy Blaster. Without detoggling, a fully slotted SF can be an enormous pain - and not every Blaster is minded for detoggling.
Without going into a complete breakdown of powerset vs powerset, I'll point out that any AT with the ability to heal itself (especially if said heal also acts as a debuff) is a serious threat in a PvP situation - even relatively-weak auto-heals.
@Synaesthetix
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