New to PvP controller


Ammon

 

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Hi, I have a few questions about controller PvP:

1. What effect does confuse (I'm a mind/kin) have on another player? I've used it effectively on pets but just spammed it as part of an attack/hold chain so far.

2. Am I right in thinking that siphon power has a - regen?

3. I'm having problems hitting sometimes - I assume it's due to something I read about a 50% base accuracy - but I would appreciate feedback on this.

4. At my level is there much I can do to mitigate the danger of assassin strikes? In a team, I am taken out first every time (which makes me kinda chuffed).

That's all for now. I had another question, but it has disappeared from my mind.

Cheers

P.S. If you want a laugh, come and see my fire/fire blaster in PvP. I'm going to do a separate (and probably more lengthy) post about him.


 

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1. What effect does confuse (I'm a mind/kin) have on another player?

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If it takes, they don't know who to target. Never had it done to me but people I've placed it on don't seem to appreciate it

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2. Am I right in thinking that siphon power has a - regen?

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Not sure, but pretty certain transfusion does - people often ask me why my Kinetic defender is spamming heals vs an AV/GM... you stop doing it and watch their health crawl back up.... siphon power is worth spamming in its own right.

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3. I'm having problems hitting sometimes - I assume it's due to something I read about a 50% base accuracy - but I would appreciate feedback on this.

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Most mind attacks have a massive bonus to accuracy. Most linetics powers don't. I'd expect to see a disparity in hitting between the two because of this, unless you plan on x2 ACC SOs + Leadership, in which case most things will have a 5% chance of missing.

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4. At my level is there much I can do to mitigate the danger of assassin strikes? In a team, I am taken out first every time (which makes me kinda chuffed).

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Perception (either through tactics or an inspiration) and the repel power.


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Am I right in thinking that siphon power has a - regen?

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Transfusion (Heal) Drains end from your foe to heal in a radius and debuffs regen.
Siphon Power debuffs damage to... 25% I think, and boosts your own.
Siphon Speed debuffs movement and rechage speed.
Not sure if Transference debuffs end recovery though.


 

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Confusion actually makes you randomly change target when you attack, And it displays everybody as an enemy.
Actually found a PvE enemy that uses confuse last night too, the new CoT bosses "Succubus" use it, which is [censored] annoying.

PvP base acc was changed to 50% too, But if you have 2 acc, and tactics you wont have a problem hitting anybody, even SR (cept for Elude)


 

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Hi, I have a few questions about controller PvP:

Hi! There's nothing more fun than being a PvP controller.

1. What effect does confuse (I'm a mind/kin) have on another player? I've used it effectively on pets but just spammed it as part of an attack/hold chain so far.
Confuse makes people's pets attack everyone on the field, their target occasionally changes as well, they get conufsed as to who is a friend or foe, also, AoE attacks, buffs, holds etc. Affect EVERYONE, not just the people it's aimed at.

2. Am I right in thinking that siphon power has a - regen?
Nope, removes 25% of their base damage, bit pants I know as SOs in damage can buff people up really high. Mind you, fulcrum shift is great in big battles.

3. I'm having problems hitting sometimes - I assume it's due to something I read about a 50% base accuracy - but I would appreciate feedback on this.
Pop some yellows, they might have popped some purples, or some classes have a high def. Eg SR scrappers and stalkers.

4. At my level is there much I can do to mitigate the danger of assassin strikes? In a team, I am taken out first every time (which makes me kinda chuffed).
Yellow insps and tactics are your friend. These increase your perception. Meaning more of a chance to spot them guys.


 

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Thanks all for the rapid and succinct responses. I think that covers everything I needed. Repel would be nice for stalkers - they've been the bane of my day - but the tactics option complements my PvE build more at the moment.

I did exact revenge on a couple of the painful stalkers in Bloody Bay however (being able to see their trails in the water helped, hehe). Popping a purple or two, avoiding their initial strike and using a combination of confuse then TK to pin them against the rocks gave me a lot of satisfaction.

I'm loving being a controller and am getting a lot of enjoyment from a bit of PvP now.

Thanks a lot and see you all around.


 

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just a quick note once u get high enough if u enjoy pvp mostly u ll have to consider a full PvP build and try get acquainted to it since PvP troller builds can be pretty weird (mine is and i am sure Imaginary as well as he gave up on Phantasm)irrational PvE choices like no Stamina are more than rational when making a full PvP troller build.


 

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The only reason to why I gave up phantasm is cause its [censored]. I still have a semi build half PvP half PvE. I have more travel powers than needed in PvE, because movement is what keeps a troller alive in PvP.

I have hover, fly for the normal movement.
I try to keep my self in the air at all times cause its easier to stay alive there because I can move in more directions and most people dont look up. But I need a back up and that is Combat Jump and Hurdle(3 slotted).

My build is no secret and this is how I have slotted:

01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Rechg(7)
01) --> Radiant Aura==> Heal(1) Heal(7) Heal(11) Rechg(17) Rechg(23) Rechg(25)
02) --> Blind==> Acc(2) Acc(25) Hold(27) Hold(27) Rechg(29) Rechg(29)
04) --> Accelerate Metabolism==> Rechg(4) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) EndRec(31) EndRec(33) EndRec(33)
06) --> Hasten==> Rechg(6) Rechg(33) Rechg(34)
08) --> Hover==> Fly(8) Fly(9) Fly(9)
10) --> Enervating Field==> EndRdx(10) EndRdx(11)
12) --> Radiation Infection==> LysosExp(12) EnzymExp(13) TH_DeBuf(13) DefDeBuf(15)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14) Fly(15) Fly(17)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Dmg(18) Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Rechg(21) Rechg(21) Rechg(23)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20) Jump(46) Jump(46)
22) --> Stamina==> EndRec(22) EndRec(34) EndRec(34)
24) --> Superior Invisibility==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(50)
26) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(26)
28) --> Group Invisibility==> Rechg(28) Rechg(48)
30) --> Lingering Radiation==> Acc(30) Acc(37) Slow(37) Rechg(37) Rechg(39) Rechg(39)
32) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(32)
35) --> Flash==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(39) Hold(46)
38) --> EM Pulse==> Acc(38) Acc(40) Hold(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
41) --> Power Blast==> NucleExp(41) Acc(42) Dmg(43) Dmg(43) Rechg(43) Rechg(45)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45)
47) --> Power Boost==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)

EDIT: my build isnt perfect, there is a few things I would like to change. Like taking flash before lvl 35. and a few slotting changes. I could make a better PvE or PvP build but I wanted to be able to do both. One of my biggest problems was that I couldnt be asked to use the test server for 30+ hours to test my build to get it perfect. But I think my build is very good to a player with my playstyle.


50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr

 

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Why combat jumping?


World of Jackcraft.

 

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Same reason jag and smooth have it I guess, With 3 slots in each, its like having SJ with no supression.


 

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1) There is there is alot of things that has -fly. Backup

2)It is much harder for melee toons to hit a jumping toon than a running toon.

3) Slows, most slows only decreases fly speed and runspeed, so I can still jump away.

4) I hate wasting a BF on immobilises.


50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr

 

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was just wondering, about TG's choice of no stamina... why? Storm secondary, can be toggle heavy, and stamina I consider it essential in PvP battles, its what makes you last longer in the fight. Couldn't imagine my troller going to battle, laying down those debuffs, and spamming many holds and seeing my endurance staying up for long. Also knowing your epics you don't have conserve power so endurance is going to be nasty for you during those long battles, especially if fighting another troller, with stamina and/or conserve power.

So tell us TG why the no stamina?


 

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Stamina is essential in PvP. If u dont have it you will be demoted to a rather passive player. Even with transference on my troller, i lack end sometimes. Without stamina u cant stay long enough in battle to be of good use, especially when u have a few toggles running (think CJ, Acro and take a look at storm and rad)
Casting a few powers and then anxiously looking around while your endbar is alarmingly low is not real playin...
And AM, recov Aura, or speedboost is not particularly on command.


 

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Stamina is essential in PvP. If u dont have it you will be demoted to a rather passive player.

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Not true. Stamina is not an essential PvP power ot tree for PvP...it is for PvE but not PvP wise. I still havent found my self in a situation where i wait my stamina bar to go up,i got no end boosting power and yet i have no issue.

As for powernova question you dont seriously expect me to answer that Everyone has his tricks and his own build and when it comes to PvP well then some things are kept secret ...what makes u last longer in a fight is not stamina but a properly designed build and attack cycle.


 

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lol, a Stormie with no end issues.

Let me guess you've got 3 slots for end reduction in every toggle from Sprint to your epic shield.


World of Jackcraft.

 

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lol, a Stormie with no end issues.

Let me guess you've got 3 slots for end reduction in every toggle from Sprint to your epic shield.

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i not have epic shield


 

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lol, a Stormie with no end issues.

Let me guess you've got 3 slots for end reduction in every toggle from Sprint to your epic shield.

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i not have epic shield

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Your build is planned for 38 Warburging then?


World of Jackcraft.

 

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Stamina is essential in PvP. If u dont have it you will be demoted to a rather passive player.

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Not true. Stamina is not an essential PvP power ot tree for PvP...it is for PvE but not PvP wise. I still havent found my self in a situation where i wait my stamina bar to go up,i got no end boosting power and yet i have no issue.


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"Xanthus, I need adrenaline...."


 

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"Xanthus, I need adrenaline...."

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Thought so.


World of Jackcraft.

 

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Stamina is essential in PvP. If u dont have it you will be demoted to a rather passive player.

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Not true. Stamina is not an essential PvP power ot tree for PvP...it is for PvE but not PvP wise. I still havent found my self in a situation where i wait my stamina bar to go up,i got no end boosting power and yet i have no issue.


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"Xanthus, I need adrenaline...."

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oi!!! when u around of course i am gonna suck you dry lol!!!Always make full use of all resources available!!!!

Btw Xanthus come in game i need ab,cm,RA,your damn wormwhole and whole bunch of things....


 

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Stamina is essential in PvP. If u dont have it you will be demoted to a rather passive player.

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Not true. Stamina is not an essential PvP power ot tree for PvP...it is for PvE but not PvP wise. I still havent found my self in a situation where i wait my stamina bar to go up,i got no end boosting power and yet i have no issue.


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"Xanthus, I need adrenaline...."

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oi!!! when u around of course i am gonna suck you dry lol!!!Always make full use of all resources available!!!!

Btw Xanthus come in game i need ab,cm,RA,your damn wormwhole and whole bunch of things....

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Can't. Gremlins will get me.

Also, I have coursework to write before I kill ALL my brain cells drinking this weekend.


 

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On reflection, thanks a lot for the suggestion. I'm nothing crazy in PvP at the moment, but I can surprise peopple and over the last two days have twice managed to take a single player out of a larger team and beat them.

Plus, I could probably get away more with TP, but I like hanging around and have found myself to be less squishy than I thought (if I divert their attention).

Since my last post, I've added assault and tactics (a bit end heavy I find - maybe I'll have to give in and get stamina). At 26, it'll probably be terrify, but increase density and the jumpy kin power are on offer I think. I'll figure something out.

See you all about.

P.S. anyone at the Comic Expo? I live in Brighton and am busy both days but will be at the party on Saturday


 

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P.S. anyone at the Comic Expo? I live in Brighton and am busy both days but will be at the party on Saturday

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Yup.

It was said elsewhere that there are 50 people booked to attend, but they don't really expect that all will indeed turn up. Still would expect more than 30 I'd guess.

And hello near-neighbour


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Increase Density is a must if your going to PvP, the protection from tp foe is now priceless, and your team mates will love you for it, as they won't be getting ganked


 

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U maybe dont NEED stamina, but it plays a lot nicer and ur team WANTS u to... Maybe u can live without it if u have a kin giving u sb all the time, or an emp feeding u. (thereby distracting them from other teammembers)
Sure u talk about attackchain and cycle. Hahaha, when only using 3, 4 attacks and maybe one toggle ur not helpin the team to its best. Try stayin in a big battle and keepin up that endbar as u said so lightly. Especially u as stormie with 3 toggles, although earth has a lot of rather cheap drops.
Its just a matter of playstyle: give it all u got, or be conservative