where is better to Rp
Union is the unoffical RP server, though some does happen on Defiant but it's hard to find.
On union, we have nightly meets in Galaxy City at the Galaxy Girl statue from 9pm onwards (some are there from 8). Feel free to come along and observe
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Union is the unofficial RP server
that said, I've met few RPers 'in the field', but on the other hand, the few I have met are great fun to RP with 'in the field'
@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity
If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.
A good way of letting people know that you are a roleplayer-in-the-field is to attach a little [RP]-tag to the beginning or the end of your heroes bio. =)
Union is the rp server, rpers we want you!
EDIT: This post was way too harsh in its wording and not fair to anyone.
My apologies to those I offended.
My point with the post was that if the original poster is into immersive roleplaying with very little OOC content, the meetings at GG will likely be a huge disappointment.
I went to all meets at GG Wednesdays to Fridays last month (this is a new posting account as my old account was tied to an NC account that I have cancelled) and I found so much OOC (either marked as such or with double brackets) that I simply lost all feel for the world and immersion.
What my original post did not include was an explanation that I am into character driven roleplaying with a deep respect for the game world and background history. The ability to create and contribute to a continually developing story with colorful and/or complicated characters at its center is why I'm roleplaying. Both in Pen & Paper roleplaying and in City of Heroes.
To me the background history of City of Heroes offer a lot of possibilities and even though the environment at times are a bit of a challenge to make work in a good, continual and dramatic fashion, it is still quite doable.
I love roleplaying in City of Heroes but my standards are different. I want people to respect that and in my arrogance I forgot to respect the lighter tone of the Galaxy Girl meetings. I apologize most sincerely for this complete lack of understanding.
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Normally the GG meets degenerate into pointless OOC babble that can at best be described as laughable and at worst as inane.
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Really? Normally? What characters do you play? And when? I notice you registered on the forums yesterday... how long have you actually been playing CoH?
For everyone else: don't be deterred from going to GG by people coming out with essentially untrue generalisations based on no real evidence.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
You know, if you don't like what goes down at GG, you could always try not going there. You could also try not actually insulting everyone who DOES go there with such remarks as yours. I strongly disagree with EVERYTHING you said, you couldn't be further from the truth if you'd tried.
A single flying visit (and I'm assuming that's what you did because if you'd stuck around you'd know different) cannot possibly clue you in on the various complex plots going on at any one time...
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Hmm, Kigran... mind telling me A: When you dropped by the statue B: Your character there and C: What was happening?
Was all the OOC chatter in ((brackets)) or not? Because if it wasn't, then it probably was in character. Your comment about "exchange trivialities and banalities about real life" makes me ask this. My characters talk about -their- real life. One of my characters takes her pregnant partner to antenatal classes, and discusses parenting with other people at the statue with children. One of them talks about how his cafe is doing, another talks about her work, socialising and the latest computer games and comics she's played.
Would everyone please just ignore KiGrAn. He's trolling, plain and simple, and seems to be keen to do this in any thread he posts in. If I'd have noticed this before, I wouldn't have bothered with the post I made.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
Good idea Birdy... Consider it done..
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Ah, ignore. It's like paracetamol for the internet!
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I was wondering.Is it better Rp on union or defiant.Iam a big fan of Rping and i would wanna be on a server that is big on Rp.
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Just to jump back to start again, I have roleplayed on both, I would surgest Union, There is a nightly meeting, with more plot lines than any one person could follow, Plus just the basic day to day life of a person trying to get from a to b, Aside from the GG meet, There are many roleplayers out there, Infact i had filled a Sg with them and turned down twice as many (im not mean the sg just had an image/theme) before i even found my way to the gg
What ever you pick i hope its works out well, If you do make it to a gg please do send me a little /tell just so i know you have made it
As my original post was completely out of line I have edited it.
Since you seem to actually want to talk now and not simply troll (this wouldn't have something to do with me reporting three of your posts to the moderators?), I shall repeat my question.
Which characters did you play? Who did you actually roleplay with? Or was it that you sat on the outside and watched, and never actually bothered trying?
Arrogant? Yes, you come across as arrogant. You also come across as someone with a grudge.
Pray, since an inactive account can be reactivated easily, why did you choose not to do so and started a new account? Where I an unkind person, I would assume you were banned and this is a second account you've created to get around the ban. However, I don't draw conclusions without evidence, unlike yourself.
The number of times when GG falls into total OOC chatter can be counted on a couple of hands, and it's been running for a very long time. You spend a few days there and decide that your opinion is more important than that of all those who do attend? Arrogant indeed.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
I've found that GG has little OOC speach... sure some comments, but those mostly revolve around BRB, AFK and Back comments. The others are often enough funny (to me atleast).
Maybe it's me, I tend to skip a lot of what's going on when I'm there. Mostly reading what I think matters to me and my character, skimming the rest lightly to see if there's some surprise interaction with my character.
@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity
If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.
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Since you seem to actually want to talk now and not simply troll (this wouldn't have something to do with me reporting three of your posts to the moderators?), I shall repeat my question.
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I have received no notification from the Moderators and after checking my inbox I can now safely say that I have received no notification at all. Yet.
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Which characters did you play? Who did you actually roleplay with? Or was it that you sat on the outside and watched, and never actually bothered trying?
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This shows that my current post is still not accurate enough. I have been by with various Characters, highest level was Divination and The Netherbeetle but that is beside the point: The atmosphere surrounding the GG meet is what is so off-putting. It is very obvious that this is real life persons meeting up, not vibrant Heroes of Paragon City meeting up at a fabulous statue of one of their famous own.
I hope I'm making myself a bit more clear now; the GG roleplay and atmosphere is on/off - it is not consistant and enduring. That's my point of contention.
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Arrogant? Yes, you come across as arrogant. You also come across as someone with a grudge.
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Can't contend with the arrogant bit, especially since I brought it up myself (and since I'm guilty of arrogance I must believe I'm right). I have no grudges though, although I have a very deep dislike for certain forms of forum behaviour.
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Pray, since an inactive account can be reactivated easily, why did you choose not to do so and started a new account? Where I an unkind person, I would assume you were banned and this is a second account you've created to get around the ban. However, I don't draw conclusions without evidence, unlike yourself.
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Not a bad theory. It is not correct, but how could you know? I have had serious problems with my account following the pre-ordering of City of Villains. Nothing seemed to work and after writing a very annoyed Email with my full references I got an answer back correcting the issue. It ended up with me having to give up my previous characters which I accepted on the grounds that I got three months free play and a free upgrade of CoV from standard to collector's edition. This was of little importance as most of my characters needed serious work anyway following I6, and I had several friends coming into CoH/CoV after we disbanded our WoW Guild for good. Like I said, how could you know?
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The number of times when GG falls into total OOC chatter can be counted on a couple of hands, and it's been running for a very long time. You spend a few days there and decide that your opinion is more important than that of all those who do attend? Arrogant indeed.
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I feel you're being overly defensive here. Roleplaying is a very varied activity and various schools or methods will naturally form in such a basically free-form activity.
I have outlined my preferred school in my edited post in this thread. What I find amusing is that I find I'm more in agreement with the RP Guide presented on the Player Guides forum (and linked from this forum) than I do with the on/off roleplaying going on daily at Galaxy Girl.
Roleplaying is the ultimate end-game to me. It allows me to create an alter ego with a personality completely unlike my own (or similar to my own, whatever I want) and if you let the game world envelop you for the hours you play, you have entertainment and amusement for many hours beyond the "boundary" set by the 50 levels of Experience.
The "few days" you describe are four or five weeks, three days a week. I can't normally play Mondays and Tuesdays nor weekends due to other commitments.
I can think of -maybe- three times in the last four months that I was present for a GG meet where IC talk stopped and became nothing but OOC chat.
One was very recently, and happened because there was a very emotional scene being played out, and one of the participants' connection failed, and didn't come back. We decided to spend some time waiting for the person to return, since it didn't feel right to just suddenly ignore the scene.
The other two were actually caused by individuals coming along and insulting us OOC, repeatedly, generally spoiling the mood. Yes, we're roleplayers with a deep love for our characters and our plotlines, but we get angry by people verbally assaulting us, too. We are just people, after all.
We try to keep OOC chat out of local as much as possible. We will often keep OOC chat to SG channels, or form a Team to chat if several people want to talk about something OOC.
That said, if someone comes along to their first meet, and has questions about roleplaying, we will tell them, OOC, usually identified by typing within a set of brackets. We're there to help new roleplayers, as well as enjoy our own roleplaying.
Kirgan, I think I see some of the problems you have with how we roleplay at GG, based on your most recent post:
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It is very obvious that this is real life persons meeting up, not vibrant Heroes of Paragon City meeting up at a fabulous statue of one of their famous own.
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Can you clarify this statement? It sounds as if your issue here is with players roleplaying characters who talk about their daily lives. To that, my only response is: Why shouldn't we? Heroes have lives, too, you know. They have friends, hopes, dreams, fears.
We don't all play "vibrant heroes". Some of us play characters who have suffered great loss in order to protect the city. Many of my characters are not registered heroes, and object to the manner in which the city handles its superpowered population. Some of us are champions of good, toehrs are grim avengers. Others still are just regular people who happen to have fantastic powers and do their best to live a good life, driven to fight crime by the danger their loved ones may be put in, or a sense of guilt or responsibility to use their gifts for good.
There is a veritable rainbow of variety in our characters and their motivations. Not to mention the fact that some people like to play characters who, while involved in the lives of superheroes, are not actually heroes themselves. Friends, lovers, sisters, etc. What exactly about the gatherings at the statue do you not enjoy?
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the GG roleplay and atmosphere is on/off - it is not consistant and enduring. That's my point of contention.
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Our take on it would be that the atmosphere at GG is dynamic. It changes. The atmosphere down the local high street is never the same from day to day. The atmosphere at your job isn't the same, day to day. You have good days and bad days. Days you love your job, and days you just want to pack it all in.
Can I ask you what kind of atmosphere you would prefer?
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I feel you're being overly defensive here. Roleplaying is a very varied activity and various schools or methods will naturally form in such a basically free-form activity.
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You say this, and yet you slandered us for how we choose to roleplay.
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I have outlined my preferred school in my edited post in this thread. What I find amusing is that I find I'm more in agreement with the RP Guide presented on the Player Guides forum (and linked from this forum) than I do with the on/off roleplaying going on daily at Galaxy Girl.
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Actually, all you really said was you enjoy immersive roleplay. That can mean any number of things. There are live-action events where you're not allowed to bring anything remotely modern with you when you roleplay, even a watch. Some would call that immersive. Immersive can also mean you don't like to speak Out of Character. Or, it can mean you enjoy concentrating as much of your free time as possible onto your character.
You haven't been very specific about why, exactly, you dislike GG.
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Roleplaying is the ultimate end-game to me. It allows me to create an alter ego with a personality completely unlike my own (or similar to my own, whatever I want) and if you let the game world envelop you for the hours you play, you have entertainment and amusement for many hours beyond the "boundary" set by the 50 levels of Experience.
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I agree with you. For me, Roleplaying is more than that, however. It's the very reason I still play. Roleplaying is far more fun than any computer game can ever be. And had I not met many friends with whom I roleplay regularly in CoH, I probably would have quit by now. Not due to any problems with the game, but just my own personal tastes.
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because you had the decency to admit you were wrong to make your original post in such a manner, but you still haven't backed up your views all that well.
While I cannot say I have seen a character called Divination or Netherbeetle at a Galaxy Girl meet, and am a regular attendee without alts, everyone is entitled to their opinion. It would be fruitless to argue the toss over such a subjective subject.
I wish you luck in finding a roleplaying enviroment more suited to your preferred style of roleplay.
Actually, Doc, I do vaguely remember Divination, though only after I went through my logs.
Divination is/was a Level 5 Radiation Defender on the 16th of October. He was looking for a team and put out a couple of broadcast requests for such between 21:25 and 21:30. He then broadcast "Hello" at 21:41, I think responding to something from someone called Pasta Mancer.
Then, at 21:43, he put out an emote "Very quiet bunch". I don;t think we were being terribly quiet, but we were having a fairly heavy session of OOC chat... in Team, not Local. Jason was chatting with Memory about what would happen now Memory had got a hero license, Valzakerie was making ice sculptures.
To be honest, my logs for October aren't as complete as they could be, I was having a really off time for RP and the game, and didn't attend as much as I used to. However, that's the only record I can find of either of the two characters you mentioned. I do remember Divination, however.
One thing... if you're that immersive, what are you doing telling us what your character is thinking? I remember Divination partially because nothing much was happening and here was a new character to interact with, but I had no reason to interact. My character is no telepath, he can't read though bubbles, and he's not going to just leap in and talk to a stranger because he isn't like that.
'Social' roleplay takes effort. I'm not good at it. If Divination is any evidence, neither are you. Thing is, I try.
Frankly, if you don't like out style or roleplay, then don't go, but don't tell other people that they won't like it because all we do is sit around a statue and natter out of character. It's a lie, and I feel no restraint in stating that.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
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You say this, and yet you slandered us for how we choose to roleplay.
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I was wrong. Actually I was so wrong that I'll gladly say it again. Sorry.
Immersive is for me:
Sit and look at the character selection screen. Deciding on the character to play by thinking about the various stories they are involved in and with what other people. All depending on how many others are online I normally decide to use the character where most of his/her friends/nemesises are online.
I always think about what happened last time I played, or I reread my notes (I keep character diaries for the important stuff, like what characters I know the names of, what characters I have met and when, basic oppinion about those characters to stay consistent and so on) to get into the mood for that character.
I log on and start moving about. Most of my characters are rather social beings (5 of 8) which means they are members of a Super Group. If I'm not too involved in a current story I'll propably drop by the base, if I am involved I'll venture into the city looking for friends (or people in trouble all depending on the character's outview on his/her role as a "hero").
All depending on who I meet I expand on a character/character relationship or extend the combined history of various groups/teams. OOC is totally avoided in public channels, but emotes are used a lot. We form various free-form teams depending on the need for outlines given to all in teamchat, or use tells if it is severely needed.
I hope that is a bit more detailed and explains my view of immersive roleplay a bit more.
Last note regarding morons ridiculing roleplayers: I have a bind that simply goes: /bind shift+i "tell $target, Roleplaying is not for everybody nor are your comments. I have therefore taken the liberty of ignoring you.$$ignore $target"
I know this does not make the problem go away for everybody, but those who are truly abusive are rarely possible to reason with in my experience.
Sounds like you do just about exactly what I do, and most of us at GG do, when logging on to play our characters. I don't personally RP much on missions because it's awkward, and takes up time. I'd rather do a full-RP mission if I'm going to do that, one in which we don't bother with an actual mission, and simply roleplay through our characters actions, usually with one player acting as a GM. It's a lot more fun and the posibilities are far more varied.
Yes, I use OOC in Local chat, but only when I'm not RPing (ie: just killing some time and getting some XP). As I said, you have yet to back up your claims that anything at GG differs from how you like to roleplay.
No, I don't roleplay constantly when I'm in-game. There are times when I just want to hit things a bit. But if someone comes up to me and speaks in character, I'll respond IC.
Given what you've told me, and judging from Ravenswing's look into his logs, I don't see how you can back up any of your complaints.
I'll give the GG meet the benefit of the doubt and see if I'm really wrong. I'll drop by for 20-30 minutes two or three days every week until December. If the OOC is really gone then I stand corrected.
And before you ask: No, I'm not going to join in at all. I'm going to see if the atmosphere is really more than banter (OOC banter, IC banter is fine of course) and post the screenshots. I think it is silly documenting everything like this, but since substantiation is needed to air your view this is what it will become.
Please remember my point: Just because RP is light at GG doesn't mean RP isn't great elsewhere.
Please do come along and see what things are like. I'll be logging everything anyway, and will be able to provide evidence that we do spend the vast majority of our time IC.
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Please remember my point: Just because RP is light at GG doesn't mean RP isn't great elsewhere.
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You know, we've asked you several times to stop doing that. You're basically saying that RP at GG is rubbish, without ever having actually joined in.
Since you seem to want proof and numbers.
Taking a random recent date (6/11/05) and filtering the logfile to include only local and emotes, I logged 1502 lines of text, of which 1460 were IC, or, in other words 2.3% of all comments to Local were OOC.
I'd love to know where you got 80% from.
I was wondering.Is it better Rp on union or defiant.Iam a big fan of Rping and i would wanna be on a server that is big on Rp.