Gauntlet 2.0

I agree with what you say Alabaster but in my opinion, if someone is super solid (i would say resistant but defense plays a role too ^^), he's super strong no matter what the kind of energy he uses.

Take a Ice/Ice tank, if he can use ice to protect his body, he can use it to hit a foe. But in fact that's not what makes him a tank, because blasters can do that too ...

Let's say a Tanker is the best self "defense" AT (again defense is not accurate here ^^) but it lacks a bit of flavor that comicbooks tanks have and it's Rage that only SS have right now.
It's well known that tankers can destroy everything when they get mad that's why they got melee powers in the first place I think

guys you should get a girl once ^^

Anyway let's restart the discussion plz someone

Anyone another idea to make gauntlet evolve in some way ?

Along the lines of what McBoo mentioned, as opposed to damage what about a minor -recharge? Something that would stack with enough spamming of the gauntlet effect and make having more then one tank add to the -recharge.

Not sure it would help, but it's an idea.

Well my preference would be to have the secondary effects from any single target tanker attacks applied to all targets affected by Gauntlet. This, in my mind, still represents a heavy hitting character. I offered up the intimidation idea to get us back on track.

I want to take another crack at this


Tankers are given a fury bar similar to Brutes. As the tanker is attacked his fury would
increase. But since a tanker is obviously not a Brute this would not be constantly buffing
the tankers damage. Instead the tanker would have an inherent click power that could be
activated to give the tanker the damage buff for only one ST attack and reset the fury
bar back to zero. In addition maybe something like a PBAOE taunt and a to-hit debuff. Or
maybe take the taunt out and give some kind of leadership style buff to your teammates.


Feel free to pick this idea apart or take it and further develop it. Whichever suits you

As I'm sure most of you have seen, Kruunch has started a new thread about removing the aggro cap. Would it be both a. reasonable, and b. feasible to have gauntlet set so that each additional tank on a team increases the tanks aggro cap? I know this doesn't help resolve tanks endurance issues at the low levels, but it might make for an interesting direction for gauntlet.

What about an extra Inherent like "Assault"?

It effects only team mates including other tankers but the bonus scales differently to each ATs. Lowest on Scrappers and Brutes.

Forgive me if I am off base with any points and I did not know how else to put it:

Going Rogue will eventually come out and Brutes are ever so close to imposing on the Tankers role, with Scrappers a little bit further behind but both in any case have a greater damage output and can be seen as more attractive for teams. I think that, that is the worry.

With Sarrate I think, wanting Tankers to more attractively stack in teams and do better damage per end like scrappers. One tank would increase the damage output of the other. Therefore greater dam per end.

With Kruunchs post being about how many new players need to complain and tanker players being end hungry perhaps from having to hit targets a lot to defeat, partly from being first in and therefore using more end.

With Tankers being in my opinion a very good dictator of the battlefield.

I think combining all that can mean that Tankers can do with a inherent effect other power like Assault, oh and still gauntlet.

If all melee ATs end up with the same powersets, which I consider likely, the flavor must come from the differences. Upping tank damage in any way shape or form simply makes the AT more of the same old same old.
And you can leave that AT description somewhere dark and humid. That entire pamphlet has virtually nothing to do with the game after 5 years of evolution.
I, and many players like me, play tanks specifically because they provide control and mitigation for the team as a whole.
Every stinkin "point" you try to make comes down top one thing JB. You seem to want to be some kind of team MVP. Soloing everything needing nothing. Go play a brute or a scrapper already and stop telling me what I should want from my already favorite AT.

Since reading this and the aggro cap posts now tearing up the charts, a idea occurred to me and apologies in advance if this has already been posted somewhere previously.

My idea for a new Gauntlet was a fury style bar that increases as the tank takes a beating for the team. As it increases it raises his own aggro cap up to dbl the curren limit. As of now, tank charges in, hits the mob. 2nd group gets aggroed he grabs there attention as well. More heck breaks loose, 3rd mob enters stage right. Team wipes, perhaps the tank does as well.

With the gauntlet 2.1 our hero tank is already up to 70-80% on his aggro bar, he taunts the 3rd group and it sticks and they join in the pile trying to take him down. No guarantee that he can stay alive, which is no different. But at least his team is still alive to take down the baddies and help the tank stay upright.

I believe this would make tanks more indispensible. While our soft capped scrapper or evil-turned good brute brethrens can still be overwhelmed with targets, Tanks can still be the rock that keeps a team going.

Mechanics: Aggro is still raised by attacking and being hit. However i'm thinking that a modifier would be in order for taking damage based on melee vs aoe vs ranged. Also perhaps an slight increase in aggro duration based on that %. In no way does this increase the range of aggro. We could still be 10 ft away from those baddies facing the other way and they would still be oblivious.

Problem 1: This promotes herding. Solution: Aggro bar drops more rapidly than the fury bar. Running from mob to mob would lose most of the aggro built up. It would also cause the taunt duration to drop as well back to normal. Also since ranged damage raises the gauntlet bar less than melee, hopping into a mob and taking off again would not make much of a difference.

Problem 2: Tank in question couldn't handle the extra aggro. Answer: In the case of accidental aggro, if the team wipes, the tank is still going to receive the full force of the attacks eventually. This just keeps his teammates on their feet to assist. If it was intentional by the tank, if he gets more than he can handle he has only himself to blame.

Problem 3 with no answer: More than one tank on a team. While I always love 2,3, even 8 tank teams. The peeps that only like having one tank on a team are going to be even less inclined to add a 2nd. Despite this, still think this would be good for tanker-kind.