Fire/Fire Dom Build

I've just returned after a 4 year break and have since leveled my Fire / Fire Dom up to 47. After extensive research and a bit of experience under my belt, here's what I have so far:

Incinerate, Smoke, & Bonfire are all out after trying them for awhile and not liking them.

1. Char: I've played with 2 damage enhancements in Char for several levels and haven't seconded guess the decision, until now. Would I benifit that much more by replacing them with 2 accuracy instead (for a total of 3 accuracy). I haven't noticed much of a problem with accuracy but then again I've only had 1 in place this whole time.

2. Fire Breath: Once I found out about cone effects being merged with range enhancements I put 1 in Fire Breath and loved it. So, I put another 1 in there and have liked the added distance as well. However, would I be better suited changed 1 out for another accuracy?

3. Fire Imps: Does the 1 accuracy actually help? If so, should I put more in or is it good with just 1?

4. Health: Does health benefit enough as is with only 1 slot or should I put more in? The difference didn't seem like much but again, I only know so much about the overall picture.

5. Patron Pool Powers: They didn't impress me but I haven't tried any so I'm only skipping them based on what I've read. This is a theme character and none of the patron powers impressed me on what they do and how they would fit into the concept. Any thoughs for a conceptual fire / fire dom?

6. Teleportation: These were chosen at the end as a lack of anything better to choose plus I guess it helps in PvP, which I don't do a lot of but things could change. Even in PvE I like the idea of pulling a single foe out of a crowd, quickly jumping to safety in a pinch, and helping teammates out with a quick port to a mission door. Any suggestions on anything better for my last 3 powers?

Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thank you.

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Frailete v1.1.50: Level 50 Natural Dominator
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Assault
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Teleportation

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Char -- Acc-I(A), Hold-I(3), Hold-I(7), Hold-I(31), Dmg-I(37), Dmg-I(39)
Level 1: Flares -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(3), Dmg-I(7), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(37), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(5), Dmg-I(43), Dmg-I(43), Dmg-I(43), Immob-I(50)
Level 4: Fire Breath -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(5), Dmg-I(15), Dmg-I(27), Range-I(40), Range-I(45)
Level 6: Hover -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Fire Blast -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(11), Dmg-I(11), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(37), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(13), Dsrnt-I(13), Dsrnt-I(15), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 16: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 18: Cinders -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(19), Hold-I(19), Hold-I(23), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 20: Combustion -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(21), Dmg-I(21), Dmg-I(27), Dmg-I(45), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 22: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 24: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 26: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(29), EndMod-I(29)
Level 28: Ring of Fire -- Acc-I(A)
Level 30: Hot Feet -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(34), EndRdx-I(34), Dmg-I(42), Dmg-I(42), Dmg-I(42)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33)
Level 35: Blazing Bolt -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(36), Dmg-I(36), Dmg-I(36), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Blaze -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), Dmg-I(39), Dmg-I(40), Dmg-I(40), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 41: Consume -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(45), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 44: Teleport Foe -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Teleport -- Range-I(A)
Level 49: Recall Friend -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Domination

Well, thankfully, there is the option to have "dual builds" which are "two completely seperate builds" from eachother. This means you can have a "pvp build" and a "pve build." Definately one of the best things the dev's have done to this game.


Also...you don't want any "Patron Pool Powers" or what? I'd highly advise taking them, as they're very helpful/good.

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Also...you don't want any "Patron Pool Powers" or what? I'd highly advise taking them, as they're very helpful/good.

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Also...you don't want any "Patron Pool Powers" or what? I'd highly advise taking them, as they're very helpful/good.

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Yup, cause now they're actually quite good

I've researched the Patron Powers a bit more and have decided to replace the teleport powers with Soul Mastery powers for my solo/group build and leave the teleport powers for my PvP build.

Can anyone add some specific insight into my other questions? Please. I'm looking to respect this weekend and was hoping for some guidance. Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thank you kindly.

Perfect. Thank you so much for taking the time to provide specifics for me. I really appreciate it.

Take care and have fun.

Thanks again for the help. Here's what I was able to come up with for my PvE build.

I wasn't quite sure about slotting the patron powers and I refined some of the other powers as well (like removing the damage from all the controls). The only thing I changed for PvP is Hover to Teleport Foe and Fly to Teleport. I left them 1 slotted (Acc & EndRdx respectfully) since I wasn't willing to give up any slots anywhere else. Besides, they're just my "oh crap" powers and I really don't PvP much at all (1% of the time if I'm bored or need Shivan Shards).

At any rate, any further insight would be highly appreciated. Thanks again.

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Frailete v2.1.50: Level 50 Natural Dominator
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Assault
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Char -- Acc-I(A), Hold-I(3), Hold-I(7), Hold-I(17)
Level 1: Flares -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(3), Dmg-I(5), Dmg-I(15), Dmg-I(40), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(7)
Level 4: Fire Breath -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(5), Dmg-I(31), Dmg-I(31), Range-I(31), Range-I(36)
Level 6: Hover -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Fire Blast -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(11), Dmg-I(11), Dmg-I(15), Dmg-I(40), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(13), Dsrnt-I(13), Dsrnt-I(21), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 16: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 18: Cinders -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(19), Hold-I(19), Hold-I(21), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 20: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 22: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 24: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(25), EndMod-I(25)
Level 26: Combustion -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(29), Dmg-I(29), Dmg-I(37), Dmg-I(42), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 28: Hot Feet -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(37), Slow-I(50)
Level 30: Consume -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33), Dmg-I(33)
Level 35: Blazing Bolt -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(36), Dmg-I(37), Dmg-I(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 38: Blaze -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), Dmg-I(39), Dmg-I(39), Dmg-I(40), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 41: Dark Embrace -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(42), ResDam-I(42)
Level 44: Soul Drain -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Summon Seer -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(50), DefBuff-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Domination

Hi Fringe, not sure if I'm too late with my 2c:

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Originally Posted by Fringe 1. Char: I've played with 2 damage enhancements in Char for several levels and haven't seconded guess the decision, until now. Would I benifit that much more by replacing them with 2 accuracy instead (for a total of 3 accuracy). I haven't noticed much of a problem with accuracy but then again I've only had 1 in place this whole time.

Char already gets a hefty acc bonus so 1 is fine, especially once you start adding in any bonus acc from set bonuses.

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Originally Posted by Fringe 2. Fire Breath: Once I found out about cone effects being merged with range enhancements I put 1 in Fire Breath and loved it. So, I put another 1 in there and have liked the added distance as well. However, would I be better suited changed 1 out for another accuracy?

Yep I find adding range enh makes a HUGE difference in how many people I can hit with these cones, and is the reason why I always add at least 2 range enh in any cones <60ft. No more than 1 acc is neccasary for Fire Breath since it also gets a hefty acc bonus.

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Originally Posted by Fringe 3. Fire Imps: Does the 1 accuracy actually help? If so, should I put more in or is it good with just 1?

Having 2 acc for pets is always good, especially since imps will spawn a lvl lower than you, though you don't need to use an extra slot for it thanks to the cheap pet sets you can get.

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Originally Posted by Fringe 4. Health: Does health benefit enough as is with only 1 slot or should I put more in? The difference didn't seem like much but again, I only know so much about the overall picture.

I find Dom's live by the creed 'Mez or Die', so regen isn't all that important when you're going to get 2 shotted by that boss regardless, but that said I really can't comment with confidence on the usefulness of regen to Dom's outside of Psyche Drain.

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Originally Posted by Fringe 5. Patron Pool Powers: They didn't impress me but I haven't tried any so I'm only skipping them based on what I've read. This is a theme character and none of the patron powers impressed me on what they do and how they would fit into the concept. Any thoughs for a conceptual fire / fire dom?

If anything, I'd say Doms have the best PPP picks out of all the ATs, and that was before we got the PPP buff as well. Hopefully i16 means you can colourise the PPPs however you want so they fit more thematically, though all the shield's are pretty subtle. The two favourites are Mu for all-round ability plus a 'godmode', and Soul for the +dmg buff which you can stagger with Fiery Embrace. Levi gets you an extra control in Water Spout, and Mace gets you a def shield and a respectable -res debuff.

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Originally Posted by Fringe 6. Teleportation: These were chosen at the end as a lack of anything better to choose plus I guess it helps in PvP, which I don't do a lot of but things could change. Even in PvE I like the idea of pulling a single foe out of a crowd, quickly jumping to safety in a pinch, and helping teammates out with a quick port to a mission door. Any suggestions on anything better for my last 3 powers?

TP is always a nice power to have, especially if you're running with stealth too so you can ghost when necessary.

Thanks for all the info, very useful and very helpful.

I didn't know about the combat monitor so I'll have to check that out.

Also, I didn't 6 slot Char because of a couple of reasons. 1 - I don't have endurance issues so I didn't feel the need for extra slots for that & 2 - It's always up when I want it so I didn't feel the need for extra slots for the recharge either.

I still have a couple respecs available so I'll play with this build for a bit and see how it goes. There's some very good insight in this thread so I may just report back yet.

Thanks again everyone.

If you're going to go all-out with the teleportation pool, I'd recommend taking Team TP over TP Foe. It's useful for putting you and your pets on target in a flash. Besides, you have the snipe for pulling, so that cuts into TP Foe's usefulness.