Elec Armor and PvP


Chrome_Family

 

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Why don't they work? K correction, why doesn't mine work...with just SO's slotted.

I'd post a build but Mids got corrupted once on my comp and has never been able to be reinstalled.

I've got the essentials for a typical PvP build, SS/SJ/Leadership/Phase

I'm lvl 39 so I've got my 9 plus all the other essential ela powers minus whichever one grants the +Rech.

I'm really feeling six kinds of squishy. Rescuing a scientist from 4 arachnoids is a chore, and that's in my 9.

I've got whatever the t1 attack is, looks like Jab. Focus, Eviscerate, AS, and BU from Clawls. My attack chain is constant, there is no real down time.

So now there's the background on the toon I've built. My dilemma is getting wrecked by Psi/ Blasters in about....4-5 shots that arrive in 1-2 seconds since they have a delay. I'm running at about 42% or so more res to Psi with DR, is the set really this squishy on stalkers. I've run an elec brute and it seems way more sturdier, granted yes he's a brute so he should be able to bear the brunt of the damage without getting wrecked. But my stalker is just dying inordinately fast. Any ideas?


 

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I just started an /elec armor stalker. Do not scare me like that.


 

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Why don't they work? K correction, why doesn't mine work...with just SO's slotted.

I'd post a build but Mids got corrupted once on my comp and has never been able to be reinstalled.

I've got the essentials for a typical PvP build, SS/SJ/Leadership/Phase

I'm lvl 39 so I've got my 9 plus all the other essential ela powers minus whichever one grants the +Rech.

I'm really feeling six kinds of squishy. Rescuing a scientist from 4 arachnoids is a chore, and that's in my 9.

I've got whatever the t1 attack is, looks like Jab. Focus, Eviscerate, AS, and BU from Clawls. My attack chain is constant, there is no real down time.

So now there's the background on the toon I've built. My dilemma is getting wrecked by Psi/ Blasters in about....4-5 shots that arrive in 1-2 seconds since they have a delay. I'm running at about 42% or so more res to Psi with DR, is the set really this squishy on stalkers. I've run an elec brute and it seems way more sturdier, granted yes he's a brute so he should be able to bear the brunt of the damage without getting wrecked. But my stalker is just dying inordinately fast. Any ideas?

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Yes, the set REALLY is that bad.


It's hands down the WORST secondary set a Stalker could roll for PvE -OR- PvP. No question. ELA, in it's current form, is total garbage, even on a Brute. Stalkers get hit with a double whammy thanks to their extremely low HP, so all that meager +res doesn't have much "meat" behind it, which means your green bar drops REALLY fast.


Go take a trip to the Brute boards, they're discussing the problems with ELA all the time, and suggesting fixes. The dev's won't hear it for about another 2 years though, so Don't hold your breath


To the poster who "just" built his ELA...re-roll immediately, I've never played a more crappy secondary.


 

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Re-roll?

I will give it a try, but ( since I am using dual blades as a primary) it looks like I will be relying on a lot of hit and run it seems. >.>

And if I make it to 50 with it you and I will be both surprised!


 

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No defense + low resists + low hp = dead stalker.


 

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LOW RESISTS?

Are you high?

They have Resist numbers that makes most Scrappers & even some tanks wish they had.

Sure you have low defense, your going get hit, but in PvP, everyone going hit you anyways, just pack up on some Greens & Oranges buddy.

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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Energy Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Energy Punch -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(19), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Mako-Dam%(27)
Level 1: Hide -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(3), GftotA-Run+(29)
Level 2: Bone Smasher -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Charged Armor -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(5), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(5), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(36), TtmC'tng-ResDam(37), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(37)
Level 6: Assassin's Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 8: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 10: Static Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(37), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(43), RctvArm-EndRdx(45)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Conductive Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(17), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(17), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(29), TtmC'tng-ResDam(36), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(36)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 24: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(48), GSFC-Build%(48)
Level 26: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 28: Grounded -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB(46)
Level 30: Energy Transfer -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 32: Total Focus -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 38: Power Surge -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam(40), Aegis-Psi/Status(40)
Level 41: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(42), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(42), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), ImpArm-ResPsi(43)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Power Sink -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(50), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Recall Friend -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Fire)[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Cold)[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Energy)[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Negative)[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)[*]5.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)[*]8% Defense(Smashing)[*]8% Defense(Lethal)[*]9.56% Defense(Fire)[*]9.56% Defense(Cold)[*]7.38% Defense(Energy)[*]7.38% Defense(Negative)[*]4.88% Defense(Psionic)[*]11.1% Defense(Melee)[*]9.88% Defense(Ranged)[*]11.4% Defense(AoE)[*]2.25% Max End[*]20% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]28% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]5% FlySpeed[*]162.6 HP (13.5%) HitPoints[*]5% JumpHeight[*]5% JumpSpeed[*]Knockback (Mag -4)[*]Knockup (Mag -4)[*]MezResist(Held) 11.6%[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 13.2%[*]MezResist(Sleep) 4.4%[*]MezResist(Stun) 4.4%[*]8% (0.13 End/sec) Recovery[*]4.38% Resistance(Toxic)[*]17.6% Resistance(Psionic)[*]17.5% RunSpeed[*]2.5% XPDebtProtection[/list]------------
[u]Set Bonuses:[u]
[u]Mako's Bite[u]
(Energy Punch)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 3.3%[*] 18.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] 3% DamageBuff(All)[*] MezResist(Held) 3.3%[*] 3.75% Defense(Ranged), 1.88% Defense(Energy), 1.88% Defense(Negative)[/list][u]Gift of the Ancients[u]
(Hide)<ul type="square">[*] 7.5% RunSpeed[/list][u]Crushing Impact[u]
(Bone Smasher)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*] 13.6 HP (1.13%) HitPoints[*] 7% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 2.5% Resistance(Psionic)[/list][u]Titanium Coating[u]
(Charged Armor)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%[*] 18.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] MezResist(Stun) 2.2%[*] MezResist(Held) 2.75%[*] 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)[/list][u]Crushing Impact[u]
(Assassin's Strike)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*] 13.6 HP (1.13%) HitPoints[*] 7% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 2.5% Resistance(Psionic)[/list][u]Reactive Armor[u]
(Static Shield)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%[*] 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)[*] 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)[*] 1.25% Defense(AoE), 0.63% Defense(Fire), 0.63% Defense(Cold)[*] 1.25% Resistance(Toxic)[/list][u]Titanium Coating[u]
(Conductive Shield)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%[*] 18.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] MezResist(Stun) 2.2%[*] MezResist(Held) 2.75%[*] 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)[/list][u]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control[u]
(Build Up)<ul type="square">[*] 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed[*] 22.6 HP (1.88%) HitPoints[*] 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.5% DamageBuff(All)[*] 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing), 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative), 2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)[/list][u]Steadfast Protection[u]
(Grounded)<ul type="square">[*] 1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery[*] 18.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] 3% Defense(All)[*] Knockback Protection (Mag -4)[/list][u]Crushing Impact[u]
(Energy Transfer)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*] 13.6 HP (1.13%) HitPoints[*] 7% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 2.5% Resistance(Psionic)[/list][u]Crushing Impact[u]
(Total Focus)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*] 13.6 HP (1.13%) HitPoints[*] 7% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 2.5% Resistance(Psionic)[/list][u]Aegis[u]
(Power Surge)<ul type="square">[*] 5% RunSpeed[*] 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)[*] 2.5% XPDebtProtection[*] 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)[*] 3.13% Resistance(Toxic)[*] 2.25% Resistance(Psionic)[/list][u]Impervium Armor[u]
(Tough)<ul type="square">[*] 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery[*] 1.88% Defense(Psionic)[*] 2.25% Max End[*] MezResist(Held) 2.75%[*] 3.13% Resistance(Psionic)[*] 2.25% Resistance(Psionic)[/list][u]Efficacy Adaptor[u]
(Power Sink)<ul type="square">[*] 13.6 HP (1.13%) HitPoints[*] 1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery[/list]


JJ


I delete more 50s, then you'll ever have.
http://www.pandora.com/people/jjdemon

 

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I always felt D.B. wasent great for stalkers, its ok, I got a DB/Ninjitsu &amp; felt my EM/ELA was more fun to me.

JJ


I delete more 50s, then you'll ever have.
http://www.pandora.com/people/jjdemon

 

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LOW RESISTS?


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Yes. Low Resists. No one stuttered.


ELA's resists in pvp are garbage.


 

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Why don't they work? K correction, why doesn't mine work...with just SO's slotted.

I'd post a build but Mids got corrupted once on my comp and has never been able to be reinstalled.

I've got the essentials for a typical PvP build, SS/SJ/Leadership/Phase

I'm lvl 39 so I've got my 9 plus all the other essential ela powers minus whichever one grants the +Rech.

I'm really feeling six kinds of squishy. Rescuing a scientist from 4 arachnoids is a chore, and that's in my 9.

I've got whatever the t1 attack is, looks like Jab. Focus, Eviscerate, AS, and BU from Clawls. My attack chain is constant, there is no real down time.

So now there's the background on the toon I've built. My dilemma is getting wrecked by Psi/ Blasters in about....4-5 shots that arrive in 1-2 seconds since they have a delay. I'm running at about 42% or so more res to Psi with DR, is the set really this squishy on stalkers. I've run an elec brute and it seems way more sturdier, granted yes he's a brute so he should be able to bear the brunt of the damage without getting wrecked. But my stalker is just dying inordinately fast. Any ideas?

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Yes, the set REALLY is that bad.


It's hands down the WORST secondary set a Stalker could roll for PvE -OR- PvP. No question. ELA, in it's current form, is total garbage, even on a Brute. Stalkers get hit with a double whammy thanks to their extremely low HP, so all that meager +res doesn't have much "meat" behind it, which means your green bar drops REALLY fast.


Go take a trip to the Brute boards, they're discussing the problems with ELA all the time, and suggesting fixes. The dev's won't hear it for about another 2 years though, so Don't hold your breath


To the poster who "just" built his ELA...re-roll immediately, I've never played a more crappy secondary.

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Pretty much this. DarkMaster hit the points pretty well.

I GUESS you could get him to 50, and park him until the devs decide that /ela is underperforming, and just MAYBE, it will get some kind of uber buff and it will be awesome... For one and a half issues, then it will be back to garbage.

And I want to know your secret for your /ela brute. You said he felt "sturdier". Does that mean only in comparison to an "lol" stalker? Or just decent in general. Because they aren't.

The resists aren't really LOW, I would say they are mediocre. But resists backed up with no heals, regen, or HP's.. theres gonna be a prob.(Oh look, I guess thats why /ela brutes underperform too :/)

Anywayz, Idk why you wouldn't take the +recharge power in /ela. That is almost like purposefully gimping yourself.

GLHF.


 

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LOW RESISTS?


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Yes. Low Resists. No one stuttered.


ELA's resists in pvp are garbage.

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Yep sounds about right to me

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Yup. I'm making my /ELA stalkers and brutes hibernated.


 

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That's a pretty good Idea Jin...I'll do that it should work.

And my elec brute is an aid self build, but he's got about 65-70% res to psi if I remember correctly. and capped energy res with almost capped s/l as well. Pretty sturdy brute.


 

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Not Exactly sure who "jin" is. lol

Every /ela brute runs tough, and although most say 52%, I get 58% s/l res. Now I would love to know how you are "almost" getting another 30% resistance. Unless you didn't realize the cap is 90%resistance.

Anyway, please dont defend /ela brutes. They need help, and I dont want to give the devs more reason to overlook it because of false claims


 

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Actually, ELA Brutes in RWZ can steamroll. Lulz @ energy damage.

Of course, that's until they pull those Rikti batliffs out &gt;_&lt;

But yes, ELA Stalker is horrible. Brute less so, just...very specialized...


 

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That's a pretty good Idea Jin...I'll do that it should work.

And my elec brute is an aid self build, but he's got about 65-70% res to psi if I remember correctly. and capped energy res with almost capped s/l as well. Pretty sturdy brute.

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Outside of power surge you don't have almost capped s/l resists. And you son't have all this resist to psi either.


 

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Actually, ELA Brutes in RWZ can steamroll. Lulz @ energy damage.

Of course, that's until they pull those Rikti batliffs out &gt;_&lt;

But yes, ELA Stalker is horrible. Brute less so, just...very specialized...

[/ QUOTE ]Well pve is definately a diferent animal, my first brute was /ela and with tough and therm support he farms well, or any mish. But pvp, it just wasn't the case, it was a specialized pvp build even. What made it so good in the i12 dayz was everone used em/ so you were impervious to most tanks, blappers melee, twixt and his droning minions.

And you had one of the best t-9s in the game, so with enough recharge you were good. But in this new world of pvp, 1st thing that comes to mind is you will get wrecked in you t-9 of all things lol i remember in beta when i found that out. Next with no self heal your herded to the choice of one travel power.

Next it's softness rivals fire armor, except no glorious 8 sec heal, and the biggest and worst thing that could happened did, with all the nerfs and DR heroes barely even us em/ now. All those /em tanks are rerolled as SS, and the em/ blasters don't really melee anymore blappers are dead ppl pew pew now.

Now you put that package in a little stalkers body, with that puny hp and you have death just waiting to happen. Low defense, so when your seen when the pew pew comes you won't avoid enough to actually rehide. The only purpose i can see for one now, is drone bait, load him up with tp foe, and tp the droners out from safety into the waiting spike. But that application would only be amusing.


The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin

http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com

 

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That's a pretty good Idea Jin...I'll do that it should work.

And my elec brute is an aid self build, but he's got about 65-70% res to psi if I remember correctly. and capped energy res with almost capped s/l as well. Pretty sturdy brute.

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Outside of power surge you don't have almost capped s/l resists. And you son't have all this resist to psi either.

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With the Psi res IO's slotted plus my toggle plus set bonuses, I do indeed have around that much res to psi, I built specifically for it, cause i wanted to PvP with it in arena. And as far as being near capped on s/l I didn't realize cap was 90% I remember it being somewhere high 70's.

That account is inactive atm or I'd check it out and sketch out the details of my build here.


 

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I can reach 58.9% s/l res on my elec brute with tough, I don't think you can get close to 70s. Maybe about 63% with the PVP +3 res IO.


 

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Yeah, it's pretty sad what they've done to the game over the years

My beta Brute was Ele/Ela, got to 35, rerolled EM/Ela for high ST power.

Big, big mistake.

She use to be decent in PVP, like you said, with everyone and their grandma flinging energy everywhere. Now? Pffft.

Stalker Armor Sets
Dark: Fun toys, not a PVP set
EA: Better than it was, slightly above mediocre
Nin: Good set, built for Stalkers
Regen: Good set for going toe to toe
SR: Good set
Willpower: Meh, above average, but not as good as SR/Nin/Regen


 

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&lt;QR&gt;

ELA is garbage in PvP especially on Stalkers. If you're gonna roll a Stalker, make it WP or Regen.


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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

 

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Not Exactly sure who "jin" is. lol

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My nickname is Jin. =/