Architect XXV still obtainable?
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2009-07-08 12:43 in Badges and Gladiators
I believe the one missing from your count may be the Accolade, which counts toward it, and perhaps the Day Job.
Correct. An alt of mine with the dayjob badge destroyed an object in a mission and the XXV badge dinged.
I'm not 100% sure the day job counts, but I'm fairly certain that both the Accolade and the Exploration badges do.
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I also I rechecked Synapse's list of Badges that were to be yanked and didnt see XXV on the yank list......wasn't on the retain list either. Hm
I still have it on 1 (or maybe 2) toons. My main badge farming toon and a farming toon that accidentally badges.
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Not only is it here to stay, if you had it prior to the badge culling, but now are under 25 AE badges earned, you will still have it.
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Not only is it here to stay, if you had it prior to the badge culling, but now are under 25 AE badges earned, you will still have it.
[/ QUOTE ] This is indeed true. I currently have 23 of 25 AE badges INCLUDING the one for XXV (25).
On a side note, I still have LXXV (75) as my badge title, even though that badge was removed. Turg also still has "The Chosen One" as his title. Just as long as we never change it to something else, we might always have it. lol
A few points:
1. Architect XXV is still listed on the "keep" list in the patch notes on the main page. Of course, Virtual Victor is listed twice in the same "keep" list, so make of it what you will.
2. Not 100% sure about the exploration badge, but the accolade defienitely counts (just tested it... my previous count on my hero was 18/25, ran an AE mission that gave me 4 more badges including the accolade, and my total went up to 22/25). This means that there are legitimately at least 25 badges outside of Architect XXV, so it's legitimately obtainable.
3. I vaguely remember there being an issue with another badge a while back where they couldn't adjust credit towards a badge, but rather could only give or take the "whole" badge. However, taking the badge away meant flagging it as "not obtainable", which I believe isn't something they can do on a per-character basis, so that might explain why they just let people keep it if they already had it.
Even if they could actually set the amount of credit people had towards a badge, it would've taken way more work than would've been wroth it to truly correct everything-- they would've had to go through every character individually, look at what badges they had and then set the Architect XXV meter to match that... or they would've had to just trash everything AE-badge-related, re-add it to the game, and make everyone re-earn the badges from scratch. IMO, either case just isn't worth the time/effort/resources/PR-backlash/etc.
It is still obtainable, even if you haven't gotten any culled badges prior to i15. And the accolade counts.
I only had Early Bird prior to i15 and Architect XXV was rewarded as my 25th badge got awarded. Progress was normal on the bar.
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I have all 24 normal AE badges, Mission Engineer, Master Architect and the architect on my stalker and still no XXV so I don't think it is rewarding.
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Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven
I believe the one missing from your count may be the Accolade, which counts toward it, and perhaps the Day Job.
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Most odd, I've still gotten the XXV Badge on alts after the badge purge of ish 15. You sure you didn't overlook one?
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Originally Posted by Unbroken_Shard
I have all 24 normal AE badges, Mission Engineer, Master Architect and the architect on my stalker and still no XXV so I don't think it is rewarding.
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I think the easiest one to overlook is Among Friends as you need 8 people to test a mish together to get it.
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Originally Posted by enderbean
I think the easiest one to overlook is Among Friends as you need 8 people to test a mish together to get it.
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Originally Posted by Vanden
Architect XXV is the badge for earning 25 AE badges. Thing is Architect XXV actually *is* the 25th of 25 AE badges. Without it, you can only have 24 AE badges, meaning you won't qualify for it. Lots of people, (like all my existing characters) already have Architect XXV, but that's because they had it before the badge recall. Many of them don't even qualify for it anymore. Is it actually still possible to earn this badge starting from scratch? I couldn't test this, since every character I have already has the badge from before the badge recall.
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its for everyone
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Originally Posted by Adeon_Hawkwood
Out of curiosity, does that award for everyone or just the mission leader?
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One of those is hero-only. One of those is villain-only.|
Originally Posted by Adeon_Hawkwood
No, there are a total of 26 AE badges, don't forget to include Architect X. http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Archit...ainment_Badges
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Heroic - Complete one arc of heroic alignment. (hero only) Villainous - Complete one arc of villainous alignment. (villain only) |
I still have XXV because I earned it before the wipe. Since it's still a valid badge, it wasn't removed, even though I didn't have 25 other AE badges. I now have all of them, which totals 25 (including XXV).
The question is, how would you normally earn the last, 25th badge, if the 25th badge is for earning 25 badges? (lol)
If it's not from the dayjob or exploration badge, I'd assume they intend people to switch sides with going rogue and earn that last hero/villain badge that way to make 25, and then earn XXV as the 26th badge. Otherwise, I see no way of earning it.
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Dunno how, but I've been seeing ding on alts of mine that I spin through a quick mish I made that lets you get the badges. Run once in Test and once in Live, plus in Test I self destruct to obtain Virtual Victim.
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Originally Posted by Mateo_06
One of those is hero-only. One of those is villain-only.
That makes only 25 (including the XXV badge) available to each side, not 26. I still have XXV because I earned it before the wipe. Since it's still a valid badge, it wasn't removed, even though I didn't have 25 other AE badges. I now have all of them, which totals 25 (including XXV). The question is, how would you normally earn the last, 25th badge, if the 25th badge is for earning 25 badges? (lol) If it's not from the dayjob or exploration badge, I'd assume they intend people to switch sides with going rogue and earn that last hero/villain badge that way to make 25, and then earn XXV as the 26th badge. Otherwise, I see no way of earning it. |
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Are you including the dayjob and/or the exploration badge when you do that? If you somehow avoid those 2 badges, would you still earn #25? To make things easy, what if you start a new character and see if #10 dings on 10, or if it dings on 9+explore (for example).
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Dunno how, but I've been seeing ding on alts of mine that I spin through a quick mish I made that lets you get the badges. Run once in Test and once in Live, plus in Test I self destruct to obtain Virtual Victim.
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Nope, one of my alts has exactly 9 badges plus the exploration badge and his progress bar for 10 says that it's at 7/10 for some reason. I'm going to grab a few more of the badges with him and see what happens.|
Originally Posted by Mateo_06
Are you including the dayjob and/or the exploration badge when you do that? If you somehow avoid those 2 badges, would you still earn #25? To make things easy, what if you start a new character and see if #10 dings on 10, or if it dings on 9+explore (for example).
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EDIT; I went and grabbed 5 of the test mode badges. This also got me the Architect X badge. However the progress bar for Architect XXV shows 13/25 when I clearly have 15/25.
Conclusion: 2 of the following 9 badges are bugged with regard to the AE quantity badges:
Gamer
Ticket Taker
Early Bird
Virtual Victor
Poor Impulse Control
Energized
Payoff
Extractor
Assassin
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Hmmmm as I recall my alts have all secured the architect dayjob......need to locate the spreadsheet... also any alt of mine that first entered the AE building immediately obtained the map badge. |
Originally Posted by Mateo_06
Are you including the dayjob and/or the exploration badge when you do that? If you somehow avoid those 2 badges, would you still earn #25? To make things easy, what if you start a new character and see if #10 dings on 10, or if it dings on 9+explore (for example).
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May need to make a quick test toon later today on one of the servers and check it out.
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I checked a toon I created fairly recently on another server that I KNOW has never done any AE content. She has 15 AE badges, including XXV. lol. I must have created her before the wipe.|
Originally Posted by Adeon_Hawkwood
Nope, one of my alts has exactly 9 badges plus the exploration badge and his progress bar for 10 says that it's at 7/10 for some reason. I'm going to grab a few more of the badges with him and see what happens.
EDIT; I went and grabbed 5 of the test mode badges. This also got me the Architect X badge. However the progress bar for Architect XXV shows 13/25 when I clearly have 15/25. |
To make things even more confusing, I checked another character that I know I created after the wipe. He has not done any AE content either, and he has 4 "global" AE badges and no progress bar at all for AE X. Matter of fact, I can't find a progress bar on any of my characters. They pretty much all have XXV already from before the wipe when there were apparently more than 25 "global" AE badges.
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I just did some testing on the character above. He started with:
-Ticket Taker
-Author
-Recognized
-Early Bird
I did a quick test AE mission and earned 2 more badges:
-Bug Fixer
-Virtual Extractor
He finally showed a progress bar of (2/10), even though he had 6 badges.
I earned the Exploration badge AFTER I had a progress bar, and it did not add to it.
-Thrill Seeker (Exploration)
I published a temp mission and earned:
-Customizer
But progress still showed (2/10).
I ran the temp mission and earned:
-Gamer
-Mission Engineer (Accolade)
-Workaholic
-Extractor
And now the progress is showing (6/10).
So apparently the Accolade might count toward the X, XXV badges, but the system seems confused in awarding credit for some of these.
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I just ran yet another mission and killed a foe to earn:
-Assassin
I "earned my first ticket" also, but I already had that badge somehow anyway.
(Is that global? It doesn't say it is.)
Anyway, credit increased to (7/10).
I then ran a test mission again and killed a foe and then let them kill me to earn:
-Virtual Victor
-Virtual Victim
Credit increased to (9/10).
For those not keeping track, I actually have 13 AE badges at this point, PLUS the Exploration and Accolade.
I grabbed the glowie in the mission and earned:
-Virtually Impulsive
That finally gave me:
-Architect X
I then had a progress bar showing (11/25).
For good measure, I ran a "villain" mission and earned:
-Villainous
Progress increased to (12/25).
Where am I going to find 13 more badges to finish off XXV? I actually only have 8 more to get (not including XXV). lol
I /bugged it.
Unless I'm way off, it's quite possible that instead of recoding the old badges in I15, they made identical ones with the old names, but new requirements and descriptions. Then, because of the identical names, they all get saved under the special "don't nuke these badges" script. However, since the old badges are no longer obtainable, only the new versions count for X and XXV?
Check the descriptions on the ones your characters already have?
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The affected character in my example was created AFTER the wipe. Otherwise, he would be like all the rest of my characters and have XXV already because of all the old global badges. |
Originally Posted by IanTheM1
Unless I'm way off, it's quite possible that instead of recoding the old badges in I15, they made identical ones with the old names, but new requirements and descriptions. Then, because of the identical names, they all get saved under the special "don't nuke these badges" script. However, since the old badges are no longer obtainable, only the new versions count for X and XXV?
Check the descriptions on the ones your characters already have? |
That said, the 4 global badges that he automatically earned after being created should have been the "new version" of them and count anyway.
There's definitely something odd about Architect XXV. My only character who has it got it last week after getting the "Critic" badge. After that, I tested and published an arc on that character, bringing his total up to 21 AE badges (including Arcitect XXV)
I suppose it's possible that he gained some of the now removed badges before they were removed, but shouldn't his count be adjusted to account for that?
edit: FWIW he's 6/8 to the accolade
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Architect XXV is the badge for earning 25 AE badges. Thing is Architect XXV actually *is* the 25th of 25 AE badges. Without it, you can only have 24 AE badges, meaning you won't qualify for it. Lots of people, (like all my existing characters) already have Architect XXV, but that's because they had it before the badge recall. Many of them don't even qualify for it anymore. Is it actually still possible to earn this badge starting from scratch? I couldn't test this, since every character I have already has the badge from before the badge recall.
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