Just comparing damage numbers from mids, it looks like it's different on different attacks, but on average a brute needs roughly a 60% damage boost from fury to deal scrapper level damage. In reality though, it's probably a little more than that, since the scrapper will get crits.
No exact number due to some attacks having a higher chance to crit. Also there is the higher chance vs bosses EBs and AVs. Somewhere around 85% fury I believe is about equal in most cases.
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Factoring in a 10% critical rate and (the key here) no outside damage buffs, it's around 65%.
Damage buffs favor the Scrapper a great deal more, and if I'm remembering the math right a Scrapper with a persistent +45% damage buff is roughly equal to a Brute at 100% Fury (ie, impossible to maintain) with both of them using 95% damage slotting and a 10% critical rate on the Scrapper.
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Are we including rage because i don't think it would take much for SS to get up there.
Rage does not a brute make.
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I believe he is making reference to the fact that the OPs question is more directly inquiring about Fury and not the superstrength powerset and/or rage.
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How much Fury does a Brute need to build to be doing the equivilant damage of a Scrapper?
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Well it never does say just fury alone it still is a bit of an open question.
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That is exactly what I meant, thank you.
Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?
Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?
Brutes are better. Period.
One non-Fury point with regard to overall damage is that the brute damage cap is 850% (750% + base 100%) but the scrapper cap is 500%. So if you're on a team with damage buffs the brute will be outdamaging the scrapper. I try to run with Kins for this very reason. In that scenario Fury doesn't really matter, although I believe scrapper crits still do--I think they ignore the damage cap the way controller containment does.
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Correction to the above: "if you're on a team with lots of damage buffs the brute will be outdamaging the scrapper."
If it's less than around +600% the Scrapper gets a better buff, and that's assuming you're using Fury to make up the rest of the difference.
Scrapper at cap (no criticals): 1.125 damage * 5 = 5.625
Brute: 5.625 / 0.75 = 7.5, or +650% damage; factor in a 10% critical rate and you end up with +725% damage needed to equal the Scrapper's damage output (6.1875 = (1.125 * 1.1 * 5) = (0.75 * 8.25)).
Unless you're pretty much capped all the time, the Scrapper is going to come out ahead with damage buffs.
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Not a problem- came through clear as day for me. Hehe, sometimes I think people who play brutes forget there are other primaries that exist outside of super strength.
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Because these are the brute forums and to speak otherwise would be heresy...
Just kidding.
I suppose the person you quoted just likes brutes better.
Words to the wise aren't necessary- it's the stupid ones that need them.
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How much Fury does a Brute need to build to be doing the equivilant damage of a Scrapper?
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