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It always seems to me that the point of being a superhero is that you can walk through a hail of bullets, route a small army, and slug it out one on one with a pagan deity dressed in your pajamas if you so-choose. Adding armour seems superfluous unless you're going for either a batman style Badass Normal character. Or a powered-armour type. Wearing a bullet-proof vest, and padding just doesn't seem like it would significantly improve Wonder WOman's survivability.
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Well, sure, if a game character's origin story is that of a supertype blessed with some kind of invulnerability, fine, all they have to worry about is public decency laws in Paragon or the Isles. Or the eye rolling of their friends as they tart around.
But there zillions of origins where no invulnerability exists. Batman or Ironman being two good examples.
Sure, Wonder Women doesn't really need armor but she does need to be taken seriously. She could wear a suit that gives her all the freedom of movement she needs without being puerile. The suits that martial artists wear address all this quite well.
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Well clearly the "need to be taken seriously" is a relatively different matter from whether or not superheroine X needs to wear "sensible" clothing or not to survive fighting crime. 
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I'm a DIRL and all the female characters I've built in this game so far have all been very firmly of the armor and cleats school. Why? Because they're "Bob" darned superheros! They get shot at with guns, flamethrowers, nuclear weapons and worse! It's just pragmatic. "Bikini girls with machine guns" might be a fun song but is definitely not something to guide the sartorial decisions of gals who want to be in the super business!
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I think the only scantily clad chick I have is one where I used the witch costume choices that came with the magic pack.
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It depends. If they can slow incoming projectiles to a halt without blkinking, and throw up a repulsion field at the same time to send them back from the direction they came, they don't need much more than a bikini.
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This is true, however, some of the skin choices are so revealing that I can't see how anyone could realisticaly (and yes I know it's ridiculous to use that word in a game like this) move around in them much without, you know, having a Janet-Jackson-at-the-Superbowl kinda thing.
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Kind of like being at a strip club and having the dancer say, 'tell me if I'm showing too much, this bikini is a bit too loose'.
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True, but the same could be said of superman or any male hero. Coloured spandex is hardly pragmatic, and its certainly no les garish, and rediculous Everyone's favorite amazon and her star-spangled bathing suit (its never been clear to me why an amazon princess would go in so much for Ameican patriotic imagery, but thats a whole other lame debate). Presumably she wears that sort of outfit for the same reason most male heroes elect their costumes - because they think it looks good on them.
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It always seems to me that the point of being a superhero is that you can walk through a hail of bullets, route a small army, and slug it out one on one with a pagan deity dressed in your pajamas if you so-choose. Adding armour seems superfluous unless you're going for either a batman style Badass Normal character. Or a powered-armour type. Wearing a bullet-proof vest, and padding just doesn't seem like it would significantly improve Wonder WOman's survivability.
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Well, sure, if a game character's origin story is that of a supertype blessed with some kind of invulnerability, fine, all they have to worry about is public decency laws in Paragon or the Isles. Or the eye rolling of their friends as they tart around.
But there zillions of origins where no invulnerability exists. Batman or Ironman being two good examples.
Sure, Wonder Women doesn't really need armor but she does need to be taken seriously. She could wear a suit that gives her all the freedom of movement she needs without being puerile. The suits that martial artists wear address all this quite well.
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I think that when Wonder Woman punches would be villains in the throat, the difficulty they experience breathing quite probably convinces them of her seriousness, and additionally distracts them from any moral assumptions they might have been making about her attire.
Additionally, I believe that when she's clearing the streets of thugs by the truckload and occasionally saving the world, it makes civillians and city officials somewhat less prone to disregard her seriosness as a superhero.
It is very true. Some women do on occasion get nekkid. I've seen this with mine own eyes.
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It always seems to me that the point of being a superhero is that you can walk through a hail of bullets, route a small army, and slug it out one on one with a pagan deity dressed in your pajamas if you so-choose. Adding armour seems superfluous unless you're going for either a batman style Badass Normal character. Or a powered-armour type. Wearing a bullet-proof vest, and padding just doesn't seem like it would significantly improve Wonder WOman's survivability.
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Well, sure, if a game character's origin story is that of a supertype blessed with some kind of invulnerability, fine, all they have to worry about is public decency laws in Paragon or the Isles. Or the eye rolling of their friends as they tart around.
But there zillions of origins where no invulnerability exists. Batman or Ironman being two good examples.
Sure, Wonder Women doesn't really need armor but she does need to be taken seriously. She could wear a suit that gives her all the freedom of movement she needs without being puerile. The suits that martial artists wear address all this quite well.
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Well clearly the "need to be taken seriously" is a relatively different matter from whether or not superheroine X needs to wear "sensible" clothing or not to survive fighting crime.
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Also this.
Superhero worlds tend to posit by definition that garish outfits are the norm for heroes, and looked at no differently, OR (and this is increasingly rare now-a-days) superheroes are vigilantees operating outside the bounderies set by society, and therefor it doesn't matter if they're taken seriously.
Its true that, as any number of woman profesionals have discovered, scanty clothing is not necesarilly a good way to be taken seriously in the real world, but in comic book worlds it doesn't seem to work that way for heroins. WHich may not be TOO unrealistic - think of it this way: if everyone at your office wore bathing suits and skintight outfits all the time, sooner or later you'd get used to it.
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True, but the same could be said of superman or any male hero. Coloured spandex is hardly pragmatic, and its certainly no les garish, and rediculous Everyone's favorite amazon and her star-spangled bathing suit (its never been clear to me why an amazon princess would go in so much for Ameican patriotic imagery, but thats a whole other lame debate). Presumably she wears that sort of outfit for the same reason most male heroes elect their costumes - because they think it looks good on them.
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As a quick aside I think it was always explained that WW wore all the "American patriotic imagery" out of respect for the US flag colors Steve Trevor wore when they found him on Paradise Island. Obviously it also played into the whole "wholesome American hero" thing for kids reading the comic too.
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As a quick aside I think it was always explained that WW wore all the "American patriotic imagery" out of respect for the US flag colors Steve Trevor wore when they found him on Paradise Island. Obviously it also played into the whole "wholesome American hero" thing for kids reading the comic too.
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I'm... not sure the whole "she loses her powers when her hands are bound by a man" weakness she had when she was first introduced counts as a "wholesome" image... 
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I'm... not sure the whole "she loses her powers when her hands are bound by a man" weakness she had when she was first introduced counts as a "wholesome" image...
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Qibble, quibble. I was just talking about the origin of the flag-colored outfit.
The fact that the creator of the Wonder Woman character was into bondage IRL, had as mistress who wore big bracelets and was the guy who actually invented the modern polygraph lie detector (think Lasso of Truth) are merely incidental to this discussion.
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As a quick aside I think it was always explained that WW wore all the "American patriotic imagery" out of respect for the US flag colors Steve Trevor wore when they found him on Paradise Island. Obviously it also played into the whole "wholesome American hero" thing for kids reading the comic too.
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I'm... not sure the whole "she loses her powers when her hands are bound by a man" weakness she had when she was first introduced counts as a "wholesome" image...
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Well, as weaknesses go, the whole idea that she looses her power when bound fits rather well with the whole empowrement theme. What always seemed a little questionable to me is just how often it comes up! As a general rule its pretty hard to grapple and physicaly restrain someone's who's trained in hand to ahnd combat and actively trying to kill you - I tend to suspect it would be harder to do it to someone who can punch through tnak armour. On the other hand, that was the same era where everyone and their brother had kryptonite too, so maybe it wasn't a case of unfortuante implications so much as lazy writting conventions.
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I'm... not sure the whole "she loses her powers when her hands are bound by a man" weakness she had when she was first introduced counts as a "wholesome" image...
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Qibble, quibble. I was just talking about the origin of the flag-colored outfit.
The fact that the creator of the Wonder Woman character was into bondage IRL, had as mistress who wore big bracelets and was the guy who actually invented the polygraph lie detector (think Lasso of Truth) are merely incidental to this discussion.
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I have got to read up more on my comic-book history. That is awesome information!
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Look, if you're facin' down thugs with guns, you want to be taken seriously. If you gotta run around, high heels ain't gonna cut it. And yes, Superman and other dudes of the spandex set fail on this score just as badly as the bikini girls with machine guns set. If some ancient god, built like an olympic swimmer and barely wearing more than a laurel wreath, shows up in middle of my meth factory, my first reaction as a hardened criminal is to laugh and say, "Kill this nancy boy."
Of course, said "nancy boy" might drop 30 petatons of holy wrath on me but that still doesn't erase that first embarrassing reaction. At least Thor wears armor. As such he's taken seriously--well sort of. He probably gets a lot of "blonde surfer boy" comments.
You want the bad guys to fear you rather then stare at your "equipment" and make ribald comments.
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Look, if you're facin' down thugs with guns, you want to be taken seriously. If you gotta run around, high heels ain't gonna cut it. And yes, Superman and other dudes of the spandex set fail on this score just as badly as the bikini girls with machine guns set. If some ancient god, built like an olympic swimmer and barely wearing more than a laurel wreath, shows up in middle of my meth factory, my first reaction as a hardened criminal is to laugh and say, "Kill this nancy boy."
Of course, said "nancy boy" might drop 30 petatons of holy wrath on me but that still doesn't erase that first embarrassing reaction. At least Thor wears armor. As such he's taken seriously--well sort of. He probably gets a lot of "blonde surfer boy" comments.
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Well, one of my concept toons is a negative image of the other. I'm not sure this would pass much for 'intimidation':
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Look, if you're facin' down thugs with guns, you want to be taken seriously. If you gotta run around, high heels ain't gonna cut it. And yes, Superman and other dudes of the spandex set fail on this score just as badly as the bikini girls with machine guns set. If some ancient god, built like an olympic swimmer and barely wearing more than a laurel wreath, shows up in middle of my meth factory, my first reaction as a hardened criminal is to laugh and say, "Kill this nancy boy."
Of course, said "nancy boy" might drop 30 petatons of holy wrath on me but that still doesn't erase that first embarrassing reaction. At least Thor wears armor. As such he's taken seriously--well sort of. He probably gets a lot of "blonde surfer boy" comments.
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Actually from a pure Sun Tzu point of view of combat it's probably not a bad thing for enemies of heroes like Superman or Wonder Woman to be "distracted" by their flashy outfits because while the bad guys are busy laughing/gawking they are getting their butts beat down badly.
If I were a superheroine IRL I wouldn't care if bad guys took me seriously if I was getting the job done.
Batman has to do the "fear" thing because that's his only 'real' superpower.
Superman/Wonder Wonder could technically get away with wearing whatever they wanted.
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Everyone knows that all the real-life girls actually play hugely muscled male characters in skin tight spandex.
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I'm a DIRL and all the female characters I've built in this game so far have all been very firmly of the armor and cleats school. Why? Because they're "Bob" darned superheros! They get shot at with guns, flamethrowers, nuclear weapons and worse! It's just pragmatic. "Bikini girls with machine guns" might be a fun song but is definitely not something to guide the sartorial decisions of gals who want to be in the super business!
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Same.
I think the only scantily clad chick I have is one where I used the witch costume choices that came with the magic pack.
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It depends. If they can slow incoming projectiles to a halt without blkinking, and throw up a repulsion field at the same time to send them back from the direction they came, they don't need much more than a bikini.
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This is true, however, some of the skin choices are so revealing that I can't see how anyone could realisticaly (and yes I know it's ridiculous to use that word in a game like this) move around in them much without, you know, having a Janet-Jackson-at-the-Superbowl kinda thing.
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That is merely a distraction tactic that makes it easier to defeat your male opponents as they stare blankly at your chest with their tongue hanging out.
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I'm a DIRL and all the female characters I've built in this game so far have all been very firmly of the armor and cleats school. Why? Because they're "Bob" darned superheros! They get shot at with guns, flamethrowers, nuclear weapons and worse! It's just pragmatic. "Bikini girls with machine guns" might be a fun song but is definitely not something to guide the sartorial decisions of gals who want to be in the super business!
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Same.
I think the only scantily clad chick I have is one where I used the witch costume choices that came with the magic pack.
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It depends. If they can slow incoming projectiles to a halt without blkinking, and throw up a repulsion field at the same time to send them back from the direction they came, they don't need much more than a bikini.
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This is true, however, some of the skin choices are so revealing that I can't see how anyone could realisticaly (and yes I know it's ridiculous to use that word in a game like this) move around in them much without, you know, having a Janet-Jackson-at-the-Superbowl kinda thing.
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That is merely a distraction tactic that makes it easier to defeat your male opponents as they stare blankly at your chest with their tongue hanging out.
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Isn't that exactly how female tanks are supposed to grab and hold aggro?
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It is very true. Some women do on occasion get nekkid. I've seen this with mine own eyes.
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This is true, however, some of the skin choices are so revealing that I can't see how anyone could realisticaly (and yes I know it's ridiculous to use that word in a game like this) move around in them much without, you know, having a Janet-Jackson-at-the-Superbowl kinda thing.
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I think that'd be a good placate power. I certainly wouldn't feel like punching a woman like that, unless I was playfully batting them like I was a kitten.
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You should see some of the costumes my wife likes to have on her characters....I think they show more skin then her character actually HAS.
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Look, if you're facin' down thugs with guns, you want to be taken seriously. If you gotta run around, high heels ain't gonna cut it. And yes, Superman and other dudes of the spandex set fail on this score just as badly as the bikini girls with machine guns set. If some ancient god, built like an olympic swimmer and barely wearing more than a laurel wreath, shows up in middle of my meth factory, my first reaction as a hardened criminal is to laugh and say, "Kill this nancy boy."
Of course, said "nancy boy" might drop 30 petatons of holy wrath on me but that still doesn't erase that first embarrassing reaction. At least Thor wears armor. As such he's taken seriously--well sort of. He probably gets a lot of "blonde surfer boy" comments.
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No I don't. I want them to underestimate me. If I walk in looking like a one-man army, they'll treat me like one. That would be bad.
As others already pointed out, mindgames are a perfectly valid means of taking your opposition off guard, and near-nudity seems like an excellent way to achieve that. After all, a topless chick in short shorts couldn't possibly pose a threat riDEAR GOD SHE JUST PICKED UP MY ENTIRE WAREHOUSE!
On the other hand, in the world of CoX, I get the feeling villains don't care what you're wearing: they already expect you to have laser fingernails and pyrokinesis so they're going to throw everything at you from the moment you engage whether you're in a full-body armored powersuit or just a thong.
In a related topic to the OP, I find it hard to build good "casual" outfits. There's a lot of over-the top armor, theme costumes (pirate, soldier, etc.), latex/spandex options and inhuman skins, but just a plain denim vest and relaxed fit jeans? No dice. (The biker vest isn't a bad substitute, though.) Most of my characters go with the "with skin" options simply because they're the most flexible options. Everything else feels a bit too niche.
I do have some plans if I ever get the roman armor unlocked, though...
I generally have no issues with w/skin outfits. My female toons have 1 or 2, but usually of the 'athetic shorts/top' variety. I said generally, cuz I do find maxed-out boob sliders with Eden tops a bit distasteful - sue me. Whatever gets your thrills...
As for the real gender behind the toon, I don't really give it any consideration, but I do find it pleasing to know we have quite a few females playing this game. I never assume a particular toon is a male or female - you simply can't tell (unless using vent, which I don't...)
The title had so much promise. I find this thread deeply unfulfilling.