Wow man! You are a frickin' incredible player!
I'm just going to thank the video game lords that not every nub off the street feels compelled to post their combat logs in this forum.
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Wow man! You are a frickin' incredible player!
I'm just going to thank the video game lords that not every nub off the street feels compelled to post their combat logs in this forum.
[/ QUOTE ]Good to see you my favorite troll :P the point of this exercise is to show the devs with actual numbers that what they have created is no better off than what we had, with one exception before it was atleast fun and felt free. So since your incapable of adding anything positive to a thread, you continue to be a Troll it's what you do best. Also i for one find information fun to look at no matter the form. Thanks for adding your spite it shows i'm headed in the right direction.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com
Hey genius, how does the above prove your point at all?
Since you appear to be lacking in the areas of logic and reason, I'll help you out a bit. Your above post proves absolutely nothing.
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Hey genius, how does the above prove your point at all?
Since you appear to be lacking in the areas of logic and reason, I'll help you out a bit. Your above post proves absolutely nothing.
[/ QUOTE ]For someone that disagrees with what I'm saying you sure stay with your mouth open. I'll slow it down since you seem to be a downy. This pvp(what we have now, ya know when you log on and play in a zone?) Is not better than what we had months back(ya know when you used to log into a zone?)
I showed i was able to jump into a pack of foes 10+ player controlled toons, score three or so kills, and escape with out being defeated, while not only them but npc heavies attempted me from not doing just that. The original premise was that this new pvp was to stop people from being able to do just that, so all these changes was forced upon us. Where in i12 the rad debuff i encountered and the cold movement debuff , and the fact i was held with not a single BF, would have been enough to keep me there for the kill. Instead i just took my kills and left. Is that plain enough for you dimwit? your the reason the other thread got taken, so say your silly trolling reply to this and Pleasebegone and those who care will chime in and those who don't wont.
Either way you can have the last word, your like a six year old with all this back in forth, if you don't buy into what I'm saying don't add to the thread..simple
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com
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the point of this exercise is to show the devs with actual numbers that what they have created is no better off than what we had, with one exception before it was atleast fun and felt free.
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Honestly Ravens you are not making any other points clear aside from having killed a few preoccupied heroes and travel suppression sucks.
The thread may have had potential if you put more thought and effort into it, but I give it 2 thumbs down.
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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I had no idea what you're trying to say since you gave no indication in the OP what your point was.
After you explained your point, I told you that your "proof" was lacking since it doesn't prove anything.
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I showed i was able to jump into a pack of foes 10+ player controlled toons, score three or so kills, and escape with out being defeated,
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You probably are the best player this game has ever seen, seriously. I have never heard of a single player killing multiple foes before without dying, either before or after the changes, so this really is news.
I stand corrected, and am willing to bow to your pvp superiority.
I never picked on the kids who took the short bus to school, but they never really talked to me. I feel compelled to respond to you however.
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the point of this exercise is to show the devs with actual numbers that what they have created is no better off than what we had, with one exception before it was atleast fun and felt free.
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Honestly Ravens you are not making any other points clear aside from having killed a few preoccupied heroes and travel suppression sucks.
The thread may have had potential if you put more thought and effort into it, but I give it 2 thumbs down.
[/ QUOTE ]This was kinda continuation of the other thread so i didn't go as indepth as before. But your right i'll include the point in the Op
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com
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Really, who is -----? The guy who does not understand your point because of lack of information or the guy after the 4th post starts to provide more detailed information for discussion?
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I showed i was able to jump into a pack of foes 10+ player controlled toons, score three or so kills, and escape with out being defeated, while not only them but npc heavies attempted me from not doing just that. The original premise was that this new pvp was to stop people from being able to do just that, so all these changes was forced upon us. Where in i12 the rad debuff i encountered and the cold movement debuff , and the fact i was held with not a single BF, would have been enough to keep me there for the kill. Instead i just took my kills and left.
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Is that plain enough for you dimwit?
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You are getting clearer with each post, GJ!
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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I still don't understand how this is supposed to provide a comparison to old pvp, by pasting some combat logs from a particular incident.
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Your Energy Transfer deals 111.86 points of smashing damage to il boia.
You concentrate and overload your energy into your Energy Transfer. You pummel il boia for 249.57 points of energy damage.
You receive a bounty of 5.00 reputation!
You gain 1.00 reputation.
You gain 305 infamy.
The devastation of your Total Focus deals a whopping 76.76 points of smashing Damage to Sergeant Eclipse.
The devastation of your Total Focus deals an additional whopping 197.39 points of energy Damage to Sergeant Eclipse.
You disorient Sergeant Eclipse with your Total Focus!You gain 0.50 reputation.
You gain 305 infamy..
Phase Shift is recharged.
You hit Savage Rebel for 71.74 points of bonus Smashing damage!
Your Energy Transfer deals 93.57 points of smashing damage to Savage Rebel.
You concentrate and overload your energy into your Energy Transfer. You pummel Savage Rebel for 182.69 points of energy damage.
You receive a bounty of 5.00 reputation!
You gain 1.00 reputation.
You gain 305 infamy.
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Look at THIS log from last night. I was able to attack and defeat three players without ever being attacked! This is proof that pvp is broken and I am all-knowing.
If you can't admit the above is proof that everything I say is 100% accurate, I suggest you get a better education.
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I still don't understand how this is supposed to provide a comparison to old pvp, by pasting some combat logs from a particular incident.
[/ QUOTE ]This isn't a random sample, their was another thread with similar info on it, the same people was posting on it so i got lazy when remaking it and didn't restate everything, it was like 8 or 9 pages long of stuff, from people giving examples to people saying their likes and dislike about the new system. But the last page got out of control and it was removed completely not even locked. So this was an attempt to rebuild it the right way with out all the verbal pvping of trolls back in forth.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com
I have a great idea. We should all delete our comments before Mod 8 starts snooping around here.
OK Ravens you first.
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Oh, I see you edited your OP in attempt to state your actual point. Thank you! That type of thing is actually quite helpful when you start a new topic.
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Now today i managed to jump into a pack of 10+ foes kill 3 or so and get out, while being attacked by atleast 9 of them and a heavy.
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So, you're trying to demonstrate that your character is overpowered now?
You said you sucked (i.e. running away was hard) before the changes and now you're Statesman's gift to pvp. If the devs goal was to help the players that sucked, maybe they succeeded?
Do you have any combat logs showing what a emp/blaster duo could do before the changes? You might find the data interesting, if you have it.
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Oh, I see you edited your OP in attempt to state your actual point. Thank you! That type of thing is actually quite helpful when you start a new topic.
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Now today i managed to jump into a pack of 10+ foes kill 3 or so and get out, while being attacked by atleast 9 of them and a heavy.
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So, you're trying to demonstrate that your character is overpowered now?
You said you sucked (i.e. running away was hard) before the changes and now you're Statesman's gift to pvp. If the devs goal was to help the players that sucked, maybe they succeeded?
Do you have any combat logs showing what a emp/blaster duo could do before the changes? You might find the data interesting, if you have it.
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About the same thing a good emp blaster combo can do now, your point?
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
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About the same thing a good emp blaster combo can do now, your point?
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I would have thought that it would be far easier to kill both the emp and the blaster than it was before. Are you saying that's not the case?
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About the same thing a good emp blaster combo can do now, your point?
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I would have thought that it would be far easier to kill both the emp and the blaster than it was before. Are you saying that's not the case?
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Oh yes, it is definately far far far easier now. Prior to the pvp changes, that combo was almost indistructable in your average zone setup. It's still a tough cookie, sure, but no where near what is was 
Ravens - I do enjoy seeing the logs, but like the others mentioned, it really doesn't prove anything.
It's not like that AR/Dev blaster was any real threat. I can't remember the last time I've seen full auto used in PvP other than in a joke video where they were demonstrating camera spins.
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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About the same thing a good emp blaster combo can do now, your point?
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I would have thought that it would be far easier to kill both the emp and the blaster than it was before. Are you saying that's not the case?
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Haven't tried to kill alot of emps in the new system have you.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
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You said you sucked (i.e. running away was hard) before the changes and now you're Statesman's gift to pvp. If the devs goal was to help the players that sucked, maybe they succeeded?
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wow, just wow. you win this thread.
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About the same thing a good emp blaster combo can do now, your point?
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I would have thought that it would be far easier to kill both the emp and the blaster than it was before. Are you saying that's not the case?
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Haven't tried to kill alot of emps in the new system have you.
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Admittedly, after the initial changes and seeing the impact on my therm I really had no desire to play my emp (the server died anyway, so I wouldn't have had anyone to buff!).
Sure, I've killed my fair share of people since the changes, but I don't always take note of their powersets and I don't know whether they were any good before the changes, so I'm not going to go all Raven and claim I have definitive proof one way or the other.
I've played an emp enough to know that running for my life was critical to my survival (don't mislead yourself into thinking I was not highly "skilled" in the fine art of evasion simply because I feel folks overstate the amount of skill involved in evading enemies). I'd be absolutely shocked if the consensus among empathy players is that the increased travel suppression, heal decay, status effect and phase changes have made survival easier for an emp.
If it's easier to kill the emp, which it undoubtedly is, then blasters would have needed a considerable buff to keep that duo's performance on par with what it used to be. Are blasters so much better now that it outweighs the nerf to their emp teammate? Not from what I've seen. The reduced healing/buffing support , increased suppression, status effect and phase changes make blasters easier to kill than they were before.
Sorry ConFlict, I know you answered my question with a question because actually answering my question would either prove yourself wrong or ignorant.
Maybe it's you who haven't tried to kill a lot of emps in the new system? Or, did you not try in the old system?
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The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com
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Admittedly, after the initial changes and seeing the impact on my therm I really had no desire to play my emp (the server died anyway, so I wouldn't have had anyone to buff!).
Sure, I've killed my fair share of people since the changes, but I don't always take note of their powersets and I don't know whether they were any good before the changes, so I'm not going to go all Raven and claim I have definitive proof one way or the other.
I've played an emp enough to know that running for my life was critical to my survival (don't mislead yourself into thinking I was not highly "skilled" in the fine art of evasion simply because I feel folks overstate the amount of skill involved in evading enemies). I'd be absolutely shocked if the consensus among empathy players is that the increased travel suppression, heal decay, and phase changes have made survival easier for an emp.
If it's easier to kill the emp, which it undoubtedly is, then blasters would have needed a considerable buff to keep that duo's performance on par with what it used to be. Are blasters so much better now that it outweighs the nerf to their emp teammate? Not from what I've seen. The reduced healing/buffing support combined with increased suppression and the phase changes make blasters easier to kill than they were before.
Sorry, ConFlict, I know you answered my question with a question because actually answering my question would either prove yourself wrong or ignorant.
Maybe it's you who haven't tried to kill a lot of emps in the new system? Or, did you not try in the old system?
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Good points.
Good post.
GOTerpsPvP's posts make sense.
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Its not.
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Sorry, ConFlict, I know you answered my question with a question because actually answering my question would either prove yourself wrong or ignorant.
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Actually I am neither good sir, but thanks for your opinion. I pvp probably about as much anybody out there right now. You are applying a lot of theory and casual play into what you think this system is and does. I am here to tell you that you are very wrong on quite a few things. A well played emp or well played pain dom are the two hardest non melee kills in the game atm. In the old days you could toast any emp with alot less effort than it takes now.
Also if you didn't know blasters are even more easy mode than before.
Hows that for answering you now.
Edit: lol you got to know you are screwed when reactor agrees with you.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
I might write a guilde on escapes lol, but it seems our old thread mysteriously vanished so this one is along the same lines. It starts in the middle of like 25 or so heroes rping and fighting AV's. So any good stalkers mouth just waters at the thought of heroes occupied fighting other forces of evil (optimum time to strike) so they are all huddled up with heavies fighting GW and a spot a few injuries.
apphire Blade MISSES! Disembowel power had a 59.15% chance to hit, but rolled a 95.80.
Sergeant Eclipse knocks you from your feet with their Slug attack!
Sergeant Eclipse blasts you with their Slug attack for 217.78 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse HITS you! Burst power had a 69.39% chance to hit and rolled a 6.98.
You hit il boia for 71.74 points of bonus Smashing damage!
Your Energy Transfer deals 111.86 points of smashing damage to il boia.
You concentrate and overload your energy into your Energy Transfer. You pummel il boia for 249.57 points of energy damage.
You receive a bounty of 5.00 reputation!
You gain 1.00 reputation.
You gain 305 infamy.
Elite CoV Task Force gains 4 prestige.
You received Insight.
Energy Transfer is still recharging.
Sergeant Eclipse rattles you with their Burst for 51.48 points of lethal damage, and reduces your defense!
Sergeant Eclipse rattles you with their Burst for 51.48 points of lethal damage, and reduces your defense!
Sergeant Eclipse HITS you! Full Auto power had a 83.39% chance to hit and rolled a 33.34.
Sapphire Blade HITS you! Hack power had a 70.95% chance to hit and rolled a 53.93.
Sergeant Eclipse rattles you with their Burst for 51.48 points of lethal damage, and reduces your defense!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sapphire Blade Hacks you with his Broad Sword for 179.67 points of lethal damage and reduces your defense!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sapphire Blade HITS you! Slice power had a 95.00% chance to hit and rolled a 49.89.
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Sapphire Blade has made you bleed for 71.74 points of lethal damage!You activated the Dull Pain power.
Your Dull Pain has increased your maximum Hit Points.
Sergeant Eclipse shreds you with a Full Auto Barrage for 7.91 points of lethal damage!
Readying Dull Pain.Now readying Total Focus instead of Energy Transfer.
You activated the Total Focus power.
HIT Sergeant Eclipse! Your Total Focus power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 19.93.
Readying Total Focus.
You take 2.25 points of Lethal damage from standing on the Caltrops.
You take 2.25 points of Lethal damage from standing on the Caltrops.
The devastation of your Total Focus deals a whopping 76.76 points of smashing Damage to Sergeant Eclipse.
The devastation of your Total Focus deals an additional whopping 197.39 points of energy Damage to Sergeant Eclipse.
You disorient Sergeant Eclipse with your Total Focus!You gain 0.50 reputation.
You gain 305 infamy.
Elite CoV Task Force gains 4 prestige.
Phase Shift is recharged.
You activated the Build Up power.
HIT Knockout .Ned! Your Build Up power is autohit.
Knockout .Ned HITS you! Build Up power was autohit.
You tap into your inner strength with your Build Up and are more accurate and more deadly for a short while.
You have Insight into your enemy's weaknesses and slightly increase your chance To Hit and your Perception.
You have Insight into your enemy's weaknesses and slightly increase your chance To Hit and your Perception.You activated the Energy Transfer power.
MISSED Savage Rebel!! Your Energy Transfer power had a 50.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 53.08.
HIT Savage Rebel! Your Energy Transfer power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 47.37.
Readying Energy Transfer.
You hit Savage Rebel for 71.74 points of bonus Smashing damage!
Your Energy Transfer deals 93.57 points of smashing damage to Savage Rebel.
You concentrate and overload your energy into your Energy Transfer. You pummel Savage Rebel for 182.69 points of energy damage.
You receive a bounty of 5.00 reputation!
You gain 1.00 reputation.
You gain 305 infamy.
Elite CoV Task Force gains 4 prestige.
You received Insight.Wraith HITS you! Laser Beam Eyes power had a 95.00% chance to hit and rolled a 65.16.
Wraith hits you with his Laser Beam Eyes for 168.9 points of smashing damage!
Wraith HITS you! Disembowel power had a 95.00% chance to hit and rolled a 20.33.
Wraith blasts you with his Gladiator's Strike: Chance for Smashing Damage for 71.74 points of Smashing damage!
Wraith knocks you from your feet with their Disembowel attack!Savage Rebel HITS you! Hack power had a 46.60% chance to hit and rolled a 5.62.
You are held!
Soul Escape HITS you! Blind power had a 82.97% chance to hit and rolled a 72.64.
Air Bomb blasts you with his Air Bomb for 16.87 points of fire damage!
You are held!
Melborn Hacks you with his Broad Sword for 126.47 points of lethal damage and reduces your defense!
Melborn lands a critical hit with his Broad Sword for an extra 126.47 points of lethal damage!
You are held!
Freedom Corps Cataphract MISSES! Energy Barrage power had a 6.50% chance to hit, but rolled a 32.68.
Norite MISSES! Fire Ball power had a 18.61% chance to hit, but rolled a 47.57.
Soul Escape burns you with their Blind for 114.47 points of fire damage!
Soul Escape burns you with their Blind for 57.23 points of fire damage!
Blind HITS you! Blind power had a 87.88% chance to hit and rolled a 54.28.
Sergeant Eclipse HITS you! Burst power had a 27.72% chance to hit and rolled a 10.74.
You are held!
Sergeant Eclipse rattles you with their Burst for 22.94 points of lethal damage, and reduces your defense!
Sergeant Eclipse rattles you with their Burst for 22.94 points of lethal damage, and reduces your defense!
Sergeant Eclipse MISSES! M30 Grenade power had a 27.86% chance to hit, but rolled a 72.46.
Sergeant Eclipse rattles you with their Burst for 22.94 points of lethal damage, and reduces your defense!
Sapphire Blade MISSES! Disembowel power had a 39.42% chance to hit, but rolled a 76.34.
Savage Rebel HITS you! Parry power had a 43.10% chance to hit and rolled a 1.90Dull Pain is still recharging.
G LoK blasts you for 107.08 points of smashing damage!
G LoK burns you with their Fossilize for 53.83 points of fire damage!
Dull Pain is still recharging.
Terf crushes you with their Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage for 71.74 points of smashing damage!
Energy Transfer is recharged.Norite hit you with their Taunt. You have been Taunted!
You are being taunted!
You are being taunted!
TinyMighty HITS you! Taunt power was autohit.
TinyMighty Taunts you!
You are being taunted!
TinyMighty partially hits you with their Taunt! Your range is reduced but the Taunt is not successful!
Rear Hole Burns HITS you! Fire Sword power had a 90.86% chance to hit and rolled a 74.48.
Norite HITS you! Taunt power was autohit.
Norite Taunts you!
Norite blasts you with his Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psionic Damage for 71.74 points of energy damage!
Norite partially hits you with their Taunt! Your range is reduced but the Taunt is not successful!
You continue to burn for 9.42 points of fire damage!
Rear Hole Burns HITS you! Greater Fire Sword power had a 95.00% chance to hit and rolled a 56.22.
Dull Pain is recharged.You activated the Reconstruction power.
HIT Knockout .Ned! Your Reconstruction power is autohit.
Knockout .Ned HITS you! Reconstruction power was autohit.
Readying Reconstruction.
Your Reconstruction heals you for 567.55 hit points!Sapphire Blade HITS you! Hack power had a 95.00% chance to hit and rolled a 5.16.
Sapphire Blade Hacks you with his Broad Sword for 179.67 points of lethal damage and reduces your defense!
You activated the Instant Healing power.
You activate Instant Healing and start to Regenerate at an astonishing rate.
Decoy HITS you! Power Bolt power had a 80.21% chance to hit and rolled a 4.16.
Decoy HITS you! Fire Blast power had a 80.21% chance to hit and rolled a 68.81.
A Decoy hits you with a Fire Blast for an imaginary 38.28 points of psionic damage!
Sapphire Blade HITS you! Head Splitter power had a 95.00% chance to hit and rolled a 74.89.
A Decoy hits you with a Power Bolt for an imaginary 38.28 points of psionic damage!
Sapphire Blade knocks you from your feet with their Head Splitter attack!
Moment of Glory is recharged. You activated the Moment of Glory power.
You become practically invincible for a very brief time!
Knockout .Ned grants you 7.5 points of endurance with their Panacea: Chance for +Hit Points/Endurance!
You grant Knockout .Ned an infusion of 7.5 endurance!
HIT Knockout .Ned! Your Phase Shift power is autohit.
Knockout .Ned HITS you! Phase Shift power was autohit.
You Phase Shift out of normal space. You are now intangible, are hard to see, and cannot affect or be affected by those in normal space.
The point of this is to show that this new pvp, has left us in a worst state than what we previously had in i12. The big reason of the so called changes from what i remember was to bring pvp to a level where a casual player can pvp and, weaken those who had their toons all pumped up to be more inline with those that didn't. Also to keep people with a greater control of movement skills and techniques to not easily evade someone that didn't.
Now today i managed to jump into a pack of 10+ foes kill 3 or so and get out, while being attacked by atleast 9 of them and a heavy. This is not a better state than we had before, i was rad debuffed, slowed from cold debuffs, held without any bf's in my tray, and taking damage from multiple foes all at once, and still managed to get out of that. In the old pvp i would have died the second i was slowed or held with no bf's, or from the shear fact their damage would have been at full power, due top no DR.
In the first thread, i showed also just how easy it is to defeat the odds in a similar fashion. So though unlikely, but this is a attempt to show the devs, they may have made a mistake, and maybe help atleast get a i12 option in the arena.
My reasoning is, we have tried everything but numbers, it's a thread like every other day about how the new pvp isn't a fan fav, but we don't get any responses. So rather than giving up, i figured i'd atleast try this. If someone eles has a better idea, than implement it, what ever works at this point is my stance.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com