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Oh, OK, thanks. You say it's not, I say it is.
Why do you find emps so much harder to kill these days? Are you always solo, or fighting with teammates? Why do you think blasters are even more easy mode now?
My impression has been that the impact on PFF alone was enough to sufficiently reduce a blaster's survivability below what it was previously. Even with increased resists you can still hit them, which leads to more deaths than when every blaster was retreating into a PFF and running away unsuppressed.
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Hows that for answering you now.
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That's better. It's a start. You don't give any reasons why it's harder to kill an emp or why blasters are more survivable . I didn't really expect you to respond with an argument that included facts but if I'm as ignorant as you think I am it would be quite helpful if you would enlighten me.
I sit here and wonder why I need to explain it to you at all. You have already stated you lost interest in playing your emp after the changes and that the zones you are play in are empty. Unlike you I am in rv on freedom prety much everyday actually playing this. I team and I solo. I use multiple toons on both sides. The base res a squishy gets + phase/hiber + regen aura makes an emp nigh impossible to kil unless the go brain dead or just flat out suck or are complete overwhelmed.
Over to the blaster side. If you have pff still you deserve to die. Hoarfrost + hiber along with button mash win offense is pretty damn solid in zone. Throw an emp behind it that can burst heal and you have a toon that can wreck like its i12.
I appreciate your long thought post with stuff that you think how it works or it seems it works. Again I will mention I am actually doing this and seeing this. Yes i pvped in the old system yes I pvp in the new system. Sounds like you in particular should get out there where the people actually are and try it out for yourself. You may learn somethings instead of theory crafting stuff to post.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
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I sit here and wonder why I need to explain it to you at all.
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Oh, don't feel obligated, but I do appreciate it.
While I respect your experience and opinion, I don't agree with it. I don't claim to have as much experience pvp'ing after the changes as you do, but I have enough that what I'm saying supports what I've seen as opposed to simply being theory.
You can discredit non-Freedom pvp if you want, but it can actually be easier to gauge the performance of certain AT's in less chaotic settings where there are fewer variables. In situations where it was just me teamed with an emp vs a larger group of villains, we were not nearly as effective as before the changes because the emp simply couldn't stay alive as well as before. Based on what you've said, those emps must flat out suck, but I find it hard to believe that the emps I teamed with prior to the changes were all tremendously skilled players compared to those I've teamed with since the changes.
Killing a good emp/blaster duo prior to the changes just wasn't as easy as you make it sound, imo.
I'm curious, does your opinion change at all if we are talking about zones other than RV?
EDIT: I missed your "or are complete overwhelmed" comment. I guess my point is that it's much easier to "completely overwhelm" an emp than it was before the changes.
There are many different scenerios and variations of survivability depending on build, but in general it is easier to kill or temporarily take out opponents (make them phase/hyper/hiber) with this new system.
Also, it is not a coincidence that more and more melee ATs are making use of phase these days.
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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+1 for you my good friend! Best Video ever!
Learn About The Empyrean Mandate
Schatten-Schlag (LvL 50 Nin/Nin Stalker)
Crocell (LvL 50 Thug/Poision MM)
Victor Smart (LvL 50 Rad/Psy Def)
The Masked Mayhem (LvL 45 Fire/Fire Blaster)
Maybe the group you jumped into stunk. 
Let's not forget that a Stalker can basically wait unseen, while foaming at the mouth, for the best opportunity to strike after said AVs hit for 1000pts of damage and you are auto mezzed for 1 hour.
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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I killed ppl sitting next to posi and BAB while they were foaming at the mouth....<_< somehow heroes weren't so eager to strike my stalker after "said AVs hit for 1000pts of damage" and i was "auto mezzed for 1 hour."
Maybe it is not all about stalkers but people who play heroes mmm?
And yes i know what i am talking about, i brought blaster, my friend brought emp..in i14 ..we cleared RV..so please stop all this QQ about stalkers being OPed, learn to play ty.
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so please stop all this QQ about stalkers being OPed, learn to play ty.
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Did I say that Stalkers were OPed? Nope don't think so. Wait I'll read it again. Nope.
My post was a comment for a comment and was in reference to the original post.
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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I killed ppl sitting next to posi and BAB while they were foaming at the mouth....<_< somehow heroes weren't so eager to strike my stalker after "said AVs hit for 1000pts of damage" and i was "auto mezzed for 1 hour."
Maybe it is not all about stalkers but people who play heroes mmm?
And yes i know what i am talking about, i brought blaster, my friend brought emp..in i14 ..we cleared RV..so please stop all this QQ about stalkers being OPed, learn to play ty.
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FORST ELD H U PLAY STALKJERS U IS NOUB U HAS NONE SKIL U NEED TOO LRN2PVP AND MAKE TANK LIKE THAT EL CHIDO GUY HE R THE BESTES PVPE I HAS SEEN IN MANY MOONS. BUT I STIL WANT 2 BANG UR [censored] LIKE BONGO
kyros you owe me orange juice i just spit...lol
Lol ok
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Did I say that Stalkers were OPed? Nope don't think so. Wait I'll read it again. Nope.
My post was a comment for a comment and was in reference to the original post.
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I was refering to whole QQ about stalkers in general...not your post precisely.
OK thanks for clarifying, now I don't hate you anymore. 
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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what the....you have to hate me..everyone does!
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I don't. SRSBUZNESS was nerfed in i13.
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I actuall emp a bit now in RV. Using the "run like a little girl" tactic I'm pretty survivable. Of course my 2 attacks are rain of arrows and total focus so occasionally I killsteal.
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
slax you don't hate anyone you slax everyone...
Only cuz I'm too Slaxy
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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I can't remember the last time I've seen full auto used in PvP other than in a joke video where they were demonstrating camera spins.
Ravens - I do enjoy seeing the logs, but like the others mentioned, it really doesn't prove anything.
It's not like that AR/Dev blaster was any real threat.
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That's the relevancy of my original line of thinking, up to 9 foes got shots in it was scrappers, tanks, other blasters, a heavy, I'm standing on caltrops so I'm totally visible and killed them in the open and made it out.
Now the supposed reason this new pvp was introduced was that the ppl that didn't pvp constantly, or was just casual couldn't compete with those who did. So they didn't pvp and if they made it a bit easier for them they would all come. Also the biggest quote unquote turn off was how a vet could just come do his/her will and skate off with his/her Superior movement skills.
So my exercise was to show that ability didn't actually change, but actually it's a tad worst off. In that brief span i was on caltrops, being beat on, had rad debuffs on me, and was slowed from a cold defender, and held. I had all that going on and still made it out.
Now can anyone who used to pvp say with all that going on, that in the old pvp i12 system you would get out? Oh i left out the part about me having zero inspirations on me meaning no BF's and no ability to make any.
So even if i was able to phase and run off in slow motion, i was green so it's easy enough to see the green guy running off at like 2 miles an hour. When a defender slowed your movement you used to run at slower than sprint speeds or atleast it felt that way.
That's all I'm saying, we could have kept it the way it was for all that it is now IMO. It's not any better, it's just a exercise in frustration most times. And alot of it doesn't make sense, like how buffers work among many things.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
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