Dark/Cold for PvP help?


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Hello, I decided to try out a dark/cold for pvp, I think it will do pretty good, cold for the debuffs and dark for the decent damage acc debuf and the nice self heal, please help me with build options for pvp, thanks.


 

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=o As much as I love Dark/ I gota be straight with you, its one of the worst corr primaries for pvp. Even though the damage IS pretty good, the vast majority of the damage it deals is DoT, wich is simply aweful for pvp.



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I concur. PvP-wise, you might want to opt for an ice/cold. The ice attacks nicely minus the recharge time of your enemy and have some decent holds. Immobilise his/her attack rate and speed, decimate his/her defense and resistance, hold him/her, then kill kill kill kill!


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I'd go dark/cold over ice/cold anyday who needs freeze ray when you got the mace hold with -jump you can no longer stack holds so no need for more than one mezz. I have a cold/dark defender which works so nice in teams, i took torrent to setup easy 'sleets' and kills.

I think you will have alot of fun with dark/cold, you get a self heal which does nice dmg and gloom and dark blast with a dmg proc in each will give you nice dmg with all that -res. So personally i'd stick with your decision and go with it

Unlike defenders corrs get some nice patron powers making them imo much stronger than defenders for dueling so with this corr you can provide good debuffs for your team to get easy kills and duel fairly well too.

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I concur. PvP-wise, you might want to opt for an ice/cold. The ice attacks nicely minus the recharge time of your enemy and have some decent holds. Immobilise his/her attack rate and speed, decimate his/her defense and resistance, hold him/her, then kill kill kill kill!

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For PvE, this works.

For PvP, the damage in Ice Blast was completely gutted and it's one of the (if not the) least damaging sets. Rad Blast has some amusement value, especially given all of the procs you can load into it and how fast you can cycle the attacks (procs are, the last time I checked, unresisted damage in PvP).

Dark isn't too shabby either, though. If nothing else, it's better than Ice.


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I concur. PvP-wise, you might want to opt for an ice/cold. The ice attacks nicely minus the recharge time of your enemy and have some decent holds. Immobilise his/her attack rate and speed, decimate his/her defense and resistance, hold him/her, then kill kill kill kill!

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For PvE, this works.

For PvP, the damage in Ice Blast was completely gutted and it's one of the (if not the) least damaging sets. Rad Blast has some amusement value, especially given all of the procs you can load into it and how fast you can cycle the attacks (procs are, the last time I checked, unresisted damage in PvP).

Dark isn't too shabby either, though. If nothing else, it's better than Ice.

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I have to agree.


I have a lvl 50 Ice/Cold Corr that I pvp with frequently, and lets just say...Ice (and that particular combo) aint what it used to be...at all. It's decent, sure, but nothing to write home about. I'd pick Fire/*, Rad/*, or Dark/* over it any day honestly.


Also, slows in pvp are REALLY gutted, like crazy. Your Ice Blasts won't do hardly a thing for you in terms of -rech on your victim. Hell, Infrigidate barely slows pvp recharge down at all even...


Ice/Cold had it's hay-day, but I think that's the past now...


 

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I have no problems killing Heroes in RV with an ice/cold. I have a rad/cold on another server, but it is not spec-ed for PvP. With the right bonus sets and builds you can achieve quite a lot. Everyone can point out how ice has changed and been nerfed, etc., or how effects, in general, have changed in PvP, but it still works for me and others I have seen. *shrugs*

Of course on the other hand all of those set bonuses I suggested as giving an edge also give others resistance to said ice or cold damage (as well as Fire). Perhaps I am just very lucky.

I do not have a dark/cold so I cannot say how it would do in PvP. My dark/rad corr does OK, but I guess because of *my* playstyle and familiarity, I like my ice attacks on my cold over rad or fire. (That and I'm lucky since I guess on Virtue I only pvp against 8 year olds ...with severe carpal tunnel & ADHD!)

On a side note, PvE-wise, I love Fire/* and Dark/* as primaries for corrs.


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eh ice/cold is garbage.

ice's damage is pretty pathetic. if you're killing people with it, it's because they are bad and not because you or your ice/* blasts are good.

now, dark is pretty sick in pvp.
dark/colds lived or died in i12 by one rule: how long can you survive. in i13+ everyone survives for quite a while, add in no dr matches and dark/cold will do wonders.

key facts: pick your patron wisely and play around it. for no dr, soul or hiber are the only options, then get tactics on top. if you're gonna play in zone or with dr on, get mace and get phase.

don't take the stun from dark. it's trash. take your patron hold. use it to break toggles.
concentrate on hitting with infridge and sleet, as they are the only reason dark will hit people.

finally, life drain is your heavy hitter. learn to use it. sometimes to kill, sometimes to heal. the recharge is long enough that it won't cause heal supression, generally.

whoever tells you dark/colds are bad never saw ownage ripping face all through i13 beta on on a dark/cold/leviathan.


 

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eh ice/cold is garbage.

ice's damage is pretty pathetic. if you're killing people with it, it's because they are bad and not because you or your ice/* blasts are good.

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So I must have been fighting you then!


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not really... are you on freedom? wanna duel?


 

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I'm on Virtue and Protector.

I'm all for playing with someone who has an open mind and has a sense of humour and not "the powers you chose suck ergo you suck!" mentality.


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lolprotector.

virtue has like 5 good players.


 

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Ahh and you are the shinning example of courtesy, chivalry, and gallantry on Freedom, yes? Oh and let's not forget virtuosity!

This thread is tapped for productive conversation right now, so have a good day turtle dove.


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get emo.


 

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"and not because you or your ice/* blasts are good."

"not really... are you on freedom? wanna duel?"

"lolprotector.

virtue has like 5 good players."

"get emo."

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I'm all for playing with someone who has an open mind and has a sense of humour and not "the powers you chose suck ergo you suck!" mentality.

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You might want to re-read what he said. If anyone's got that mentality, it's you, given how you interpreted what he told you.


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Hahah, you guys crack me up, lol well thanks for the views, I can see why dark would be not very good, but im about picking the slow kid for dodgeball rather than the fast kid lol. What would be a good patron power for my pvp toon. I mainly picked up dark because of the nice self heal, and Im set on sticking with cold lol.

thanks guys


 

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I'm all for playing with someone who has an open mind and has a sense of humour and not "the powers you chose suck ergo you suck!" mentality.

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You might want to re-read what he said. If anyone's got that mentality, it's you, given how you interpreted what he told you.

[/ QUOTE ]Honestly she only got that way after he said............ "it's because they are bad and not because you or your ice/* blasts are good."
.......... I think he cast the first stone, he got personal first. She at least stayed within humor. Does he know her skillset? I doubt it. No reason for making his comment just because he disagreed with her.


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Hahah, you guys crack me up, lol well thanks for the views, I can see why dark would be not very good, but im about picking the slow kid for dodgeball rather than the fast kid lol. What would be a good patron power for my pvp toon. I mainly picked up dark because of the nice self heal, and Im set on sticking with cold lol.

thanks guys

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If you want Hibernate, Leviathan's the way to go (and Spirit Shark Jaws is a big hitter when you proc it up). However a popular choice seems to be Mace, because of Focused Accuracy (an end hog to be sure, but it somewhat makes up for the lack of an Aim power in Dark Blast) and the -jump and -fly in the immobilize and single-target hold.


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