Best level for these uniques?
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Cardiff_Giant,
Posted on: 2009-06-07 08:04 in The Market and Inventions
The LOTG yes lowest level is the best because it works with the excemp rules 3 levels within or it wont work. The other 3 on the other hand will all work as long as they are slotted in powers that are available. So get the cheapest ones you can
Get them all the lowest you can because all of them can work all at once and there is no difference of percentage or anything they all work the same.
Tempstra 50 Rad/Dark Defender/War'nt 50 Warshade/Heliosa 50 Fire/Rad Controller//Captain Blue Balls 50 Fire/Ice Blaster/Pinky Swear 50 Dark/Dark ScrapperMind Dreamer 50 Mind/Kinetics Controller/Rex Bubbles 50 Illusion/Forcefield Controller/Cool Wind 50 Ice/Storm Controller/Lil' Miss Dangerous 50 Gravity/Kinetics Controller/Observationist 50 Illusion/Empathy Controller/Kansas City Brawler 50 Stone/Fire Tank/Hades Exhibit One 50 Dark/Robots MM
Don't forget, there IS a defense component to that LOTG - it's Defense/+Global Recharge Bonus (not to be confused with Defense/Recharge) - it may not be a large difference...
But when your dealing with that much Inf. and tweaking for bonuses you may as well get one that will work at whatever level you plan on exemp'ing down to.
Or at least keep that in mind if your crafting them to sell, some people will/may care about the level - LotG Defense/+7.5% Recharge Bonus & possibly with GotA Defense/+7.5% Run Speed Bonus.
With GotA its 7.2 Defense at level 15 vs. 14.5 Defense at level 40.
With LotG its 12.0 Defense at level 25 vs. 15.9 Defense at level 50.
These are the only two I can think of (at the moment) that people might not want at the lowest level possible, just saying...
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Yeah but 12.0 defense at level 25 that offers the global bonus from 22-50 is alot better for those exemplaring down then a 15.9 defense level 50 that only offers global bonus from 47-50...
If you never exemp the level 50 is clearly the better one for defense value, but if you plan on spending time exemped you are much better off with that 7.5% global recharge intact.
I use the level 25 ones when i buy from merits, because its not hard at all to get ED cap defense values AND have the IO global recharge work while exemped if you slot 4 pieces of gamblers in a power. Level 50 defense, def/rech, and def/end and a level 25 def/global recharge and you cap defense plus retain the global bonuses when exemped down to 22(as long as the power its slotted in is active).
So for me its lowest possible level if buying with merits, and cheapest possible if I buy from market, or dont care about exemping. But generally the low level IOs sell for more then the top level ones anyways, so getting the lowest level ones usually makes them MORE valuable to sell as well.
Y'know, I was just thinking of this last night-glad there's already a thread on it!
I'm still confused, though-so, let's say I have a lvl50 Numina's Convalescence unique, slotted into my first slot in Health. If I exemp down to 14 (where I picked up Health), will I still have the +reg/+recovery? Or do I lose those bonuses, since even though I have that slot, it's the one that comes with the power, I'm not at the right 'level' to use that enhancement?
Like I said, I'm confused. I'm assuming the same answer will apply for the Miracle and Regen. Tissue uniques, as well. Help? 
Basically too many 50's to count, but I'm generally a brute/scrapper/tank kind of guy.
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I'm still confused, though-so, let's say I have a lvl50 Numina's Convalescence unique, slotted into my first slot in Health. If I exemp down to 14 (where I picked up Health), will I still have the +reg/+recovery?
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As others have said, the LotG is the only one that really matters. The Numina, Miracle, and Regen Tissue work as long as the power that they're slotted in works. If you get Health at 16, you can slot it with max level IOs for those uniques, and they'll still work when you exemp as low as 16 (and still have Health).
For the LotG, there's the Defense bonus (which is somewhat higher at higher levels), plus the fact that it only works down to 3 levels below the IO. The global Recharge part of it is considered a set bonus. It doesn't matter whether or not the power that it's slotted in is available when you exemp. If the LotG is level 50, you will lose them bonus if you exemp below 47. If you plan on ever exemping, I advise you to get low level LotGs.
All that said, I recommend always getting the lowest possible level on all of the IOs you mentioned. That way, you'll be able to unslot them (via Respec) and slot them into the new overpowered FotM Grav/Energy Dominator you'll make when I15 hits. Or maybe a Widow.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304
I agree with TopDoc. It's worth noting on LotGs that there's something like a 3% difference in the defense enhancement granted by the global recharge IO at levels 25 and 50. On its own, that's not a difference I find worth worrying about, especially when it's slotted in places where +defense enhancement isn't a priority. Places like Combat Jumping or Hover.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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All that said, I recommend always getting the lowest possible level on all of the IOs you mentioned. That way, you'll be able to unslot them (via Respec) and slot them into the new overpowered FotM Grav/Energy Dominator you'll make when I15 hits. Or maybe a Widow.
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I thought you lost any unused Enhancements when you respec. Are you saying that you keep IO's that you don't use? Because I actually have a few in there that I slotted when he first started that I would give to other toons when I respec to re-do his build.
And thanks for the advice everyone. Got my recipes!
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I thought you lost any unused Enhancements when you respec. Are you saying that you keep IO's that you don't use? Because I actually have a few in there that I slotted when he first started that I would give to other toons when I respec to re-do his build.
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You can keep 10 that you put in your enhancement tray.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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All that said, I recommend always getting the lowest possible level on all of the IOs you mentioned. That way, you'll be able to unslot them (via Respec) and slot them into the new overpowered FotM Grav/Energy Dominator you'll make when I15 hits. Or maybe a Widow.
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I thought you lost any unused Enhancements when you respec. Are you saying that you keep IO's that you don't use? Because I actually have a few in there that I slotted when he first started that I would give to other toons when I respec to re-do his build.
And thanks for the advice everyone. Got my recipes!
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You can keep up to 10 enhancements in your tray. Just make sure when you respec none are there and all you have to do is drag them there just like you drag them into your powers.
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You can keep up to 10 enhancements in your tray. Just make sure when you respec none are there and all you have to do is drag them there just like you drag them into your powers.
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Close. Make sure you start with a full load of crappy level 50 set IOs that you buy on the Market for 100K or so. When you sell them back at the end of the Respec, you'll get 490K each for them.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304
Exactamundo.
People are selling lvl 50 IOs many times for throwaway prices...buy some up for <100k and respec to make 350K+ profit per slot.
Hey its only 3.5 mil or so, but why not have your respecs making you a little extra?
I'm just now starting to IO out my lvl 50 Brute, and I have enough merits for the big ticket uniques, Miracle +Recov, Numina Regen/Recov, Regenerative Tissue Regen, and LotG Recharge. My question is, is it best to get all of these at the lowest possible level? I don't really PVP, but I would malefactor for strikeforces, and to eventually start on the Oroborous badges. Thanks in advance!
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