Primarys for Willpower


BlackBellatrix

 

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Hey I have been really wanting to roll a willpower brute but was not sure which primary powerset to choose. If anyone can offer some good ones that have some nice synergy with the set, that'd be great. Thanks


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Super Strength that is all


 

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WP is such a nice secondary for Brutes that you can run it well with pretty much any primary. SS/WP is the FotM, and quite strong, but it's hardly the only choice. Others are as good, or as close as makes any difference in PvE.

Find a good concept that you like, or a primary powerset you've been interested in trying, and have fun...it'll work. WP is that good.


 

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I'd say the two big ones are Stone Melee and Super Strength.

Super Strength gives you Foot Stomp which provides helpful knockdown which gives WP time to do it's thing as well as WP is less affected by Rage crashes. The extra recovery from Quick Recovery also helps Super Strengths endurance hungriness.

Stone Melee has some excellent mitigation as well as some heavy hitting single targets, making the already survivable WP become VERY survivable. And again, Quick Recovery helps with the naturally high endurance usage of the set.


 

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Yeah those are the 2 I figured just wanted to know which others could be good


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Any really its matter what you want those two are just the top picks right now for WP.


 

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FOOTSTOMP + RAGE...is there really any question lol


 

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WP is such a nice secondary for Brutes that you can run it well with pretty much any primary. SS/WP is the FotM, and quite strong, but it's hardly the only choice. Others are as good, or as close as makes any difference in PvE.

Find a good concept that you like, or a primary powerset you've been interested in trying, and have fun...it'll work. WP is that good.

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More like flavor of the decade...


 

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More like flavor of the decade...

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If we'd had WP that long... to the extent that any primary synergizes with WP, SS does it well. WP provides insane regen, reasonable res or def to pretty much everything, and extra end recovery. It doesn't provide any self-heal, or do any damage.

So for synergy, I'd be looking for a primary that can help in those times you need some breathing room for the regen, and a primary that did reasonable AoE damage on its own.

Footstomp covers you on both counts. Only bad thing is you don't get the AoE mitigation until you barely need it any more since WP has matured by 32. But once you get it you're just an insane killing machine.

I found that Battle Axe also did well, loads of knockdowns and good AoE damage. Mace is similar, less early mitigation but better late AoE. I haven't seen many elec/WP builds, but that would work too, I'd expect.


 

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I started a ss/wp, sm/wp, and a dm/wp. My ss is lvl 16, my sm is lvl 14, and my dm is lvl 50. DM adds - to hit which is nice with WP's defense, and it has a good heal/attack in Siphon Life. I play with my wife, who is playing a SS/WP. She has commented on how my brute out-performs hers.

There are several different reasons for that, of course, but my experience has been that DM is a good fit for WP.


 

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Interesting I had not thought of Dark Melee. I have never really tried Dark Melee, is it any fun?


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Hey I have been really wanting to roll a willpower brute but was not sure which primary powerset to choose. If anyone can offer some good ones that have some nice synergy with the set, that'd be great. Thanks

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well now.

i made a wp brute 3 weeks ago. io'd the hell out of it. stone melee was the primary

i knew stone melee was an end pig of a primary. having both stamina and qr 4 slot (perf shifter sets including the end proc for both) and having 4.20 eps recovery and 66% end reduction in each attack - it's still an end pig.

however for the majority of the content is has faced it's been incredible. mostly due to fault. you can gather a buncha stuff to feed your rttc regen and if you start to get overwhelmed, pop fault. now every lt and minion in range is stunned for 10-13s and you recover an enormous amount of hp before they recover.

seismic smash one shot holding bosses is also hot.

what's not hot? fighting in cimeroa where mobs are immune to knockdowns and holds and debuff what defenses you have. the set has only 23% defense debuff resistance

what's also not hot? longbow spec ops. just ONE of these minions will shut down your regen no matter how much of it you have. their grenade is like -500% regen or more. as you know, reagent korol-somethingorother in grandville gives a few missions where you fight nothing but 3 spawns of these bastards.

what's also not hot? no aoe. tremor is extremely weak. yo are better off with a patron aoe.

and that lst part that's not hot - accuracy. the powers recharge so slow that if you miss, it hurts more than other primaries.

i do think that for the ultimate in survivability for nearly every possible mob thrown at you with willpower, dm is the way to go. siphon life is an added heal (and becaue of HPT it heals a brute for 400-600 health per use depending on slotting) and the tohitdebuffs help with bosses and EB's. not so much with av's but that's why god invented purples.


 

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Willpower has a weak taunt aura, and by weak I mean nonexistent, so it requires an AoE attack to help hold aggro and keep mobs within range of RttC.

Super Strength is good for this because of the fast recharge you can obtain with Foot Stomp, but any AoE heavy set is a good pair for Willpower.

I've been playing a DM/WP and I've found that he is very good when taking on one very difficult mob like an EB or an AV (been able to solo everyone I've come across so far) because of the -tohit debuffs and heal, but he's also been very squishy when dealing with large groups because the majority of DM's attacks are all single target and provide no means of mitigating damage from attackers besides the one you're hitting.

I'm still in the early 40s with him so my opinion might change by the time I reach 50, but I think Willpower needs some kind of AoE mitigation or attack to really shine.


 

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what's not hot? fighting in cimeroa where mobs are immune to knockdowns and holds and debuff what defenses you have. the set has only 23% defense debuff resistance

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That's odd on my SS/WP I've never had any issues farming large spawns in Cim. The defense debuff is irritating but my regen and resistance always carried me through. This is including spawns with bosses and elite bosses in them along with minions and lts.

What specifically was causing you issues with them?


 

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Any. There is no primary that is bad with /WP. QR helps with the end heavy weapon sets, SM and SS. Dark has -to hit that compliments RttC. /WP has enough mitigation in itself to not need extra in the primary so Fire works just fine.


 

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what's not hot? fighting in cimeroa where mobs are immune to knockdowns and holds and debuff what defenses you have. the set has only 23% defense debuff resistance

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That's odd on my SS/WP I've never had any issues farming large spawns in Cim. The defense debuff is irritating but my regen and resistance always carried me through. This is including spawns with bosses and elite bosses in them along with minions and lts.

What specifically was causing you issues with them?

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Not using Fault before they get their -KB -mez clickie off.

You can keep the whole spawn stunned with Fault in Cimerora, too; you just can't wait until they're immune to it to use it. My SM/WP tanks Cimerorans better than my FM/SA did.


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QR

If you solo, then take Fire Melee.