SuperHero Academy...
That... is... an.... AWESOME... idea!
Two thumbs up!
Get to work.. You guys are awesome
Good idea. I'd offer to take part, but you don't want anyone to play like me. I grief [censored].
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Good idea. I'd offer to take part, but you don't want anyone to play like me. I grief [censored].
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I thought that the reason would be that you are like many blasters (myself included) who tend to jump in first and have to wait for the tank to catch up later.
Cool idea; if people actually realize they need help and are willing to accept it.
I too think it is a great idea, and am willing to assist any way I can...keep in mind that I have a tanker mentality no matter what toon I'm playing...
Thanks to all of you for the support!
Its amazing how quickly folks in-game come around when they see something they didn't know was possible--like everyone living because they target the tank. :-)
I've only just set up the site in the last day or two and am busy writing things for it.
The sign-up link is on the top of the site's page (it means joining the site, not the in-game SG!!)
I'd love to have folks do some intros--I wrote a little 'So, you wanna be a blaster...' guide just to mention things often unknown to new players. Feel free to sign up, and if you have new players in your own SG, or players new to a specific AT, send them our way. If this could become a cross-SG project...well, that would rock!
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Fantastic idea, but unless you can put a muzzle on your sg leader BRAIJE, we at AOW will not participate, you cannot be mean to others and think we will help you!
I have had many many complaints about your members!
Just listen to your members in Atlas on broadcast and you will see what i mean.
As long as your members solicit AOW members and attack them in PvP zones, no member of DarkGuard is allowed on any of my teams. Sorry but no one would allow this behavour against their sg, do not think we will allow it either!
Those from PoN, i am giving the same warning.
I also noticed the sg doing this will be named after DG, looks like a simple ploy to get members, if an sg that actually helped ppl normally had posted this, or an sg being formed independantly to help the server, i would be willing to help with this project.
Maybe that should have been a PM?
Nah, we've been lacking in drama lately.
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Fantastic idea, but unless you can put a muzzle on your sg leader BRAIJE, we at AOW will not participate, you cannot be mean to others and think we will help you!
I have had many many complaints about your members!
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I've never had a problem with Braije--je's always been good and supportive in my experience. If someone has an issue with him I suggest speaking to him about it rationally. A large reason for the existence of this site is to help make people into better players--if you read through everything you'll note we're encouraging people to explore content, not simply farming. This is something I know you support.
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As long as your members solicit AOW members and attack them in PvP zones, no member of DarkGuard is allowed on any of my teams.
Those from PoN, i am giving the same warning.
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I fail to understand the source of your vitriol. You're mad at Braije as well as mysterious, unnamed members. If you've an issue with someone in game then approach them. I've never had an issue with you nor you me as far as I know--so you wouldn't team with me because of who I team with regularly?
That's your perogative. I just enjoy the game, and don't want drama.
As for Braije and DG members, if you're in a PvP zone and don't want to be attacked, broadcast a msg telling folks you're farming pillboxes or whatever. They'll leave you alone, and they'll make sure others do as well. But since you don't farm, I don't see why you'd be in a PvP zone for any reason other than PvP.
I may be a little off here. If so, please clarify. But I find it disturbing that you make it clear that no member of your SG will participate. What if someone in AOW wants to participate? Are they facing expulsion from your SG for doing so?
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I also noticed the sg doing this will be named after DG, looks like a simple ploy to get members, if an sg that actually helped ppl normally had posted this, or an sg being formed independantly to help the server, i would be willing to help with this project.
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A ploy to get members? Our main is stuffed, our subSGs are stuffed, and our red side is getting stuffed. When I started playing this game, Braije and the rest of the DG crew were always open and helpful. Dropped mishes they were doing to help me, etc. We put ourselves out there to help--the whole reason for the site we're setting up is to help. We don't require anyone to join the in-game SG in order to use the site--our front page message notes that all are welcome.
Now if you don't want to participate, that's your choice--and its a shame as I was hoping you'd do a little write up on defenders (being a good def player and all). The fact is, many DG members are very excited about this development. In-game feedback I've gotten has been positive.
Anyone on the server is welcome to pitch in all they want. Why's it called DarkGuard Academy? Because the founders of the site are DarkGuard. When we elected to expand and train new members, this site became a good vehicle to do so.
Now no one is [censored] about AOW or the behavior of some of its members--individuals do not as such shape the entire group. I wouldn't turn away an AOW member who signed up on the site; but I'm very disappointed that your own personal issues with people have led you to refuse participation in a resource meant to help every one.
Plus I'm personally insulted. This site was concieved of and designed by me. You and I have never had any issues but you've lumped me into the 'problem' category because of who I play with?
It's. Just. A. Game.
Despite all, you're still more than welcome to come participate, as are all members of your SG. If they're allowed.
I have to admit, the whole idea of this rubs me the wrong way. I know several players who think they are "good players" who infact are really really really NOT. What qualifies you (or your group) to "teach", or even criticize another player's playstyle?
Having said that, I think you have good intentions. (BUT The road to Hell is paved with good intentions). I am interested in knowing what you plan on "teaching" when it comes to Tanking (being the only subject I feel even remotely commenting on).
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I have to admit, the whole idea of this rubs me the wrong way. I know several players who think they are "good players" who infact are really really really NOT. What qualifies you (or your group) to "teach", or even criticize another player's playstyle?
Having said that, I think you have good intentions. (BUT The road to Hell is paved with good intentions). I am interested in knowing what you plan on "teaching" when it comes to Tanking (being the only subject I feel even remotely commenting on).
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I gotta agree with this. What you deem as good, someone else may not. Unfortunately ive seen it a 1000x's.
What i think needs to be addressed is the SG's that are farming these new toons to 50 and not mentoring them the right way. I was on the lrsf a week ago with someone that was proud of the fact he joined COH and hit 50 in 3 days thanks to his sg.. and yet had no idea what vengence did, what the oroboros portal was, or what badges were for. It was pretty sad and extremely frustrating.
SG's.. if youre going to do this with your new members, please dont send them off into the world for the rest of us to have to deal with.. thanks.
Well, here's an example of hw showing someone something small can make a difference. The other day I was running with a pug. Every mob that came along was wiping out the party. By simply suggesting that they all target the tank--which they subsequently did--had them working as a team.
This is the sort of thing we're talking about. Also--build advice for example. Many new players are confused as hell by Mids, so it benefits them to have experienced players to turn to.
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What i think needs to be addressed is the SG's that are farming these new toons to 50 and not mentoring them the right way. I was on the lrsf a week ago with someone that was proud of the fact he joined COH and hit 50 in 3 days thanks to his sg.. and yet had no idea what vengence did, what the oroboros portal was, or what badges were for. It was pretty sad and extremely frustrating.
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This is exactly the kind of thing I mean. PL'ed toons whose players just can't play, don't know what their powers and temps do, etc. A couple of us with the SG (not the site) have discussed reformatting our promotion scheme to encourage playing content, not farming. Cherry mentioned mentoring--that is exactly what I'm trying to get at. I shudder to think how poorly I'd play if not for folks who gave me advice (not that we can't all improve).
To sum up, one of the main issues we want to address is PL'ed players who can't really play their toons, can't play as a group (ever see a Def who thinks he's a tank? Messy) and approach the game with an eye to 50 and nothing more.
The reason I want to involve as many people as are willing is to give a large sampling of advice--I don't want people to clone their play style, but rather to develop their own. All that advice people ask for in game? The site is just a place to gather it together.
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What qualifies you (or your group) to "teach", or even criticize another player's playstyle?
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Nothing but experience, which we all have. I don't criticize anyone's play style. If they ask for advice I'll give it, with the YMMV caveat. If they don't, I don't offer it.
Technically, one could argue that no one is qualified to teach anything in the game but I'd have been lost early on without advice--some was good, some was bad, all was valuable.
An example of what's there now--I did a quick little write-up on blasters containing some info new players might now be aware of--such as 'knockback frustrates Scrappers and Tanks but this can be mitigated if your NRG blaster hovers right over the fight' or 'blaster powersets each have an additional effect (knockback for energy; slow for ice, etc) and these can be used to strategic advantage'.
I can't--and won't--TELL anyone how to play but I'm happy to share what has worked for me, and am glad when others share what works for them.
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What i think needs to be addressed is the SG's that are farming these new toons to 50 and not mentoring them the right way. I was on the lrsf a week ago with someone that was proud of the fact he joined COH and hit 50 in 3 days thanks to his sg.. and yet had no idea what vengence did, what the oroboros portal was, or what badges were for. It was pretty sad and extremely frustrating.
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I think this is the reason why they are wanting to do this, Good idea yes, but as Dinah might has said. everyone has a different idea on what is a good player and what not. I have see so many ppl join PuG and start saying so and so has the best build. Giving advice to someone that is doing his/her part on the team based of what someone else said. They were the ones slowing down the progress of the team not the one getting the advice.
problem with power lvl toons is if its in a hands of a new player, they dont know what does what and does learn how to use the powers together. that is what the process of going up on the lvls is to do, Plus people are different and not everyone wants to play it the same way.
best thing to do is ask the person to start over rebuild the toon and stay out of AE or off teams that are making you miss learning why something is there.
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Thanks for the good words, prvtslacker. Dinah is right that not everyone plays the same! As I mentioned above, I don't want to teach people 'style'. I want to see people play their own style, but with an understanding of the basic nuts and bolts that help team dynamics.
That being said, I'm also open to advice from anyone here on the topic. Whether the advice is critical or supportive, it all helps. I've gotten some good things to consider from this thread, and thank all of you who've provided input, advice or constructive criticism.
The objective of the academy isnt meant to rile anyone up...We aren't saying we're more qualified than anybody else. We're simply trying to offer a place where everybody can contribute to the betterment of the game. Ive seen a lot of high/level low quality players that don't even know how to use the forums! So it was made for everybody. It has times and dates of TF's and trials. Tips on builds, info on the game. Links to paragonwiki and the like. It's simply just another tool that anybody can use or contribute to...
As far as DarkGuard soliciting players...that's insane and the fact you would bring that kind of pettiness up in a forum really proves your worth as a leader. This is Sinny speaking. and I've never had a problem with you or any of AOW. Im just saddened that you continue this jag against Braije over and over again...Let it go!
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Wow, this server has a lot of drama!
I think I picked the right one, lol.
Can I get a PL?
LOL, you troll
Thanks for making me chuckle!
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Thanks for the good words, prvtslacker. Dinah is right that not everyone plays the same! As I mentioned above, I don't want to teach people 'style'. I want to see people play their own style, but with an understanding of the basic nuts and bolts that help team dynamics.
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I'm glad that I was right when I had assumed you meant that from the beginning. It is entirely possible to give people a basic understanding of game dynamics without telling them how they need to play their toons. There is a big difference between telling them what an enhancement is and what kinds there are, and telling them they must slot X, Y, and Z into a specific power (or even that they must take that specific power.)
For the record, I'm probably one of the bad players but I've never claimed to be any good.
Hi all
A lot of us have noticed a lot of crappy players around lately, who PL all the way to 50 and can't play their toons. For example, yesterday I was running with a p.u.g who couldn't take a mob without everyone dying. The simple suggestion that everyone target the tank made a world of difference....
So in that vein, some of us from the DarkGuard SG thought it'd be a good idea to set up a sort of player academy where we could not only teach noobs but also schedule TFs, trials, PVP nights and all sorts of things. I'd like to invite all experienced players on Champion (DarkGuard, our coalies or others) to feel free to participate as well.
While the website has just been set up and remains a work in progress right now, you can still sign up at tinyurl.com/DGAcademy
Our goal is to make good players the norm, not the exception, and thereby make the game better for the entire server.
Thanks all, and hope to see you all come out!