Lighting stars one by one


Canonball

 

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I received some wonderful feedback from a Player of my arc yesterday, and he told me he was going to 5-star me, which was nice. After he said 'donw', I checked my tickets, and - nil. I asked him how he rated, and he said that he lit the stars up one by one. I guess that was an accidental one-star.

So I've added [DO NOT LIGHT STARS ONE BY ONE - FIRST STAR CLICKED COUNTS FOR RATING] to my final debriefing (after a few line breaks), and i recommend others do the same until its widely known in-game that this method of rating causes the wrong effect.

Eco.


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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I'm not sure if that's right. It may only count the first for TICKETS, but I'm not sure about the rating. I thought you could go back and rerate things. Is there a time frame allotted or something?


Dec out.

 

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There is a 3 (or maybe 4, I'm bit certain yet) day cook down period after which you can be rerated, but - if the person rating you doesn't know this happens, they're unlikely to come back later.

Eco


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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This sounds like a bug. You should PM a redname about it.


 

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It's not a bug. The person clicked 1 star first, and so Eco got no tickets. The other guy then proceeded to give the full rating, which counts towards Eco's average immediately, but no Tickets are awarded because the "rating change" was too soon.


http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt

 

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It's not a bug. The person clicked 1 star first, and so Eco got no tickets. The other guy then proceeded to give the full rating, which counts towards Eco's average immediately, but no Tickets are awarded because the "rating change" was too soon.

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Ah, so it only affects the tickets, not the rating average? I'm not too bothered about the loss of 25 tickets, but obviously the rating average is another matter. That's good to know.

Eco.


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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If the rating is sent to the Server before the 'FINISHED' button is clicked, that's a misleading GUI behavior and in my book, either a design-flaw, or a bug. In essence, the rating should not be sent when the User clicks the stars themselves but rather when they signal the system they're done with the form itself by clicking the 'FINISHED' button or dismissing the form.


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) Augmenting Peacebringers The Umbra Illuminati

 

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It's not a bug. The person clicked 1 star first, and so Eco got no tickets. The other guy then proceeded to give the full rating, which counts towards Eco's average immediately, but no Tickets are awarded because the "rating change" was too soon.

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That's not the way I remember Pohsyb describing it. I thought that the highest rating during the time period would count.

I would blame lag. Maybe it's just me, but the gap between getting a rating and getting tickets seems to be hours, at least.


Avatar: "Cheeky Jack O Lantern" by dimarie

 

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It's not a bug. The person clicked 1 star first, and so Eco got no tickets. The other guy then proceeded to give the full rating, which counts towards Eco's average immediately, but no Tickets are awarded because the "rating change" was too soon.

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That's not the way I remember Pohsyb describing it. I thought that the highest rating during the time period would count.

I would blame lag. Maybe it's just me, but the gap between getting a rating and getting tickets seems to be hours, at least.

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I still havent got any tickets for it. No new plays since, either.

Eco.


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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My own testing while trying to figure out just how rerating works indicated that it keeps updating the rates (for example, I could make the star rating on an arc with a low number of rates change by leaving the "finished mission" window open and clicking back and forth between 5 stars and 1 star). However, I didn't think to click all the way up to see what that would do for tickets.

Since it does seem to count the last rating clicked, which is the important thing, I wouldn't worry. At most you're out, what, a single boss defeat's worth of tix?


@Mindshadow

 

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I wonder if they could explain a little better how to use the Rating system in that Arc Completed window. I'm sure not everyone's on the same page with the current system. Is ONE star or FIVE stars better? Most will think 5, but not all.

I had, I think, a new player of the game play my arc (I assume because of no Vet rewards). I helped him/her figure out how to search for my arc, how to start it and where the portal was. He/she seemed very nice and pleased via those tells and the Comment left afterwards was very positive and appreciative. At the same time, in my chat pops up 'someone voted on arcname' or whatever the line is. So I'm lead to believe he/she rated it a 1-2.

Also, it might be neat to have a button to see all the ratings we've received. Not to include any names, just how many 1's, 2's, 3's, etc. we've received.


 

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Also, it might be neat to have a button to see all the ratings we've received. Not to include any names, just how many 1's, 2's, 3's, etc. we've received.

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Like that alot.


 

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We also need a "rate later" or "pause arc. button for those times when you start an arc, play some of it and then realize you A. need/want to restart it with teammates. b. Its just not your sort of thing but you have nothing against it and just shouldn't rate it because you didn't play enough of it. C. Need/want to go help your SG, friend, etc with a mission, base raid, TF or whatever...and that means quiting architect mode.

In any of these circomstances you just want out of the arc for now without rating it...which could lead to artifical zero stars for the designer.

Phase light


 

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We also need a "rate later" or "pause arc. button for those times when you start an arc, play some of it and then realize you A. need/want to restart it with teammates. b. Its just not your sort of thing but you have nothing against it and just shouldn't rate it because you didn't play enough of it. C. Need/want to go help your SG, friend, etc with a mission, base raid, TF or whatever...and that means quiting architect mode.

In any of these circomstances you just want out of the arc for now without rating it...which could lead to artifical zero stars for the designer.

Phase light

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Woah! Hang on a minute. If we start an MA arc, and then either finish it or quit without touching the stars at all, that counts as a zero rating?

I have started a Villainous arc on my Blaster, got so immersed in the first mission that I felt that playing the whole thing on a villain would be doing it more justice (Hopeless, by either Lazarus or Talen_Lee, i forget which now), so quit and restarted on my Stalker. I didnt rate until the second play. I thought I WAS essentially 'rating later'. That arc was certainly not a zero-starrer.

I've also played all the way through an arc and had a discussion with the author whilst doing it, and not rated because the author had dewscribed changes he was making to it which i felt would alter the rating (for the better, usually). I've finished that arc and then replayed the
new' one, and then rated it. The first quit was counted as zero ratings?

if so, that's rubbish.

Eco.


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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We also need a "rate later" or "pause arc. button for those times when you start an arc, play some of it and then realize you A. need/want to restart it with teammates. b. Its just not your sort of thing but you have nothing against it and just shouldn't rate it because you didn't play enough of it. C. Need/want to go help your SG, friend, etc with a mission, base raid, TF or whatever...and that means quiting architect mode.

In any of these circomstances you just want out of the arc for now without rating it...which could lead to artifical zero stars for the designer.

Phase light

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Woah! Hang on a minute. If we start an MA arc, and then either finish it or quit without touching the stars at all, that counts as a zero rating?

[/ QUOTE ]No. In order to give zero rating, you have to hit 1-star twice. If you don't touch any of the stars, there's no rating to count.


http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt

 

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Qr - thank heavens for that!

Eco


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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That is indeed a good thing.

How about if the creator is online, and someone plays his/her arc and doesn't rate it when done. Will the creator have anything come up in their chat box? Or will the creator never know someone played it, except I suppose as progress on the one badge. Thx.


 

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How about if the creator is online, and someone plays his/her arc and doesn't rate it when done. Will the creator have anything come up in their chat box? Or will the creator never know someone played it, except I suppose as progress on the one badge. Thx.

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They'll only get progress on the "people have played your arcs" badge, which doesn't exactly leap out at you. Someone who plays but doesn't leave a comment and either doesn't leave a rate or mucks it up is totally invisible to the writer.

It's been a bit since I checked, but I'm pretty sure even if they can't give you tickets from a rating, you'll still get a "Someone has rated (arcname)" message when they click the stars.


@Mindshadow