Hall Of Fame - Anti-Griefing Suggestion
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Posted on: 2009-04-20 13:11 in Suggestions and Ideas
While I'm not sure whether 14 days is the right amount of time to lock the HoF status, I do like the idea of a period of time for an arc to stay at HoF level before potentially being lowered.
As it stands now, unless you hit exactly the right time, you never know an acr got to HoF status because it drops so quickly.
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Yep the dropping is making it a pain to get the badges
At least a 24 hour lock should be in place, though thats the short end of what I would think. 14 days may be pushing it a little far.
7 days would certainly be great. Keeps the arc in place for one week, such that even our weekend only players get a chnace.
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I like 7 days.
Might work better just to have it check once per day/week/whatever period at a specific time. Anything that meets the requirements is marked as Hall of Fame until the check rolls around again.
OK, changed the Lock Time to 7 Days in my original post. Initially, I was thinking 30 Days, but that was this morning, at work, while I was still asleep. 
7-10 Days of Lock Time should be good. 
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At least a 24 hour lock should be in place, though thats the short end of what I would think. 14 days may be pushing it a little far.
7 days would certainly be great. Keeps the arc in place for one week, such that even our weekend only players get a chnace.
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I'd go for a 24-hour lock if it worked both ways - you can't get into HOF by a run of good votes until those have been shown to last.
Best way to do this would be to recalculate HOF status every server reset (or if it can be done while online, every 8am)
Which brings up a good point: why not calculate *all* visible ratings at that one time? So you can't even grief things on their way to HOF status. and you remove questions people have raised about early ratings giving a bias.
In trade for making a huge amount of new arc stuck at 0 for up to 24 hours, add a simple way to search for arcs published since the last calculation run, thus drawing attention to them.
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Currently, the Hall of Fame is broken. Why? Because as soon as an Arc makes it to Hall of Fame status, within 5 mins. it's hit by griefers and given enough 1- and 0-Star ratings to remove it from Hall of Fame status.
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If the issue truely stems from the immediacy, how about adjusting the system so that a rating after finishing an arc counts as two votes. Would that sufficiently downplay the click-and-run griefer votes?
Perhaps, so as to not give an edge to truely bad arcs that really deserve to be abandoned and panned, maybe this two-votes-if-completed can only calculate once an arc achieves HOF status?
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When a Mission Architect Story Arc reaches Hall of Fame status, it becomes "locked" for 7 Days. What this means is that, for the next 14 Days, the Arc remains in the Hall of Fame, regardless of how many 1- or 0-Star votes it recieves.
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I think this would be a good START. I think the devs should go even further and, once an arc hits HoF, it should be reviewed by them. If it's sufficient quality to also be Dev's Choice, it should be flagged (visible to all players) that it will be promoted to Dev's Choice in 30 days. (or 60, or 90, but it should go Dev's Choice at some point)
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I'm thinking that after seeing some of the thinly veiled bile against badgers in some of the forums here (not a lot, just some to prove that it is there), that the ratings system for HoF (or just in general) should be revamped. I dont know if the Standard Code Rant would apply, but it sure would be nice if you couldnt deviate from whatever the standard rating is without adding a comment to the creator of the MA Arc.
Either that, or the Devs should put something in place that would flag the 'griefers' who are just screwing with HoF status. Yeah, I'm dreaming, but it would be nice.
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Calculating the HoF status every server reset won't work. If an arc is really being "griefed" by being downvoted as soon as it reaches 5-stars, it can be equally griefed when it reaches 5 stars and sits at 999+ rates, wherever there's a pretty HoF icon next to the rates or not.
A better way would be, IMO, to have a buffer between gaining and losing stars. Once you reach 4.5 (or 3.5, or 2.5), your shown rating is 5, and the average must drop to 4.0 (or 4.1, or 4.2, whatever) before the just gained star is dropped. It's basically a small buffer zone.
This is a method often used when one wants to avoid ping-pong effects when swapping between states. Tends to work well.
You could also "lock" things in HoF for a certain amount of time, sure, but I think this'd be a more general solution that works across all rating ranges.
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Looking at things from a sports perspective, I think the "Hall of Fame" designation should be reserved for the best of the best, and those arcs should be able to stand the test of time.
In my opinion, we're too early in the life of AE to have "Hall of Fame" arcs. Right now, these arcs are more deserving of a "Arc of the Month" title or something similar than they are for The Hall.
If an arc's ratings can be dropped by a few "ratings griefers" then it hasn't received enough high-ratings to be deserving of Hall of Fame status, in my opinion.
I'm honestly hoping that the griefing will dial down once the griefers get bored with MA and it stops being so shiny. Well most anyway..... okay some..... a few? 
Currently, the Hall of Fame is broken. Why? Because as soon as an Arc makes it to Hall of Fame status, within 5 mins. it's hit by griefers and given enough 1- and 0-Star ratings to remove it from Hall of Fame status.
Sadly, there are plenty of immature people who play this game, and think this is funny. They'll most likely continue to do so, until the ability is removed from them.
This, then, is my suggestion on how to remove the ability to grief Hall of Fame Arcs.
When a Mission Architect Story Arc reaches Hall of Fame status, it becomes "locked" for 7 Days. What this means is that, for the next 14 Days, the Arc remains in the Hall of Fame, regardless of how many 1- or 0-Star votes it recieves.
At the end of the 7 Day lock period, the Arc is once again subject to removal from Hall of Fame status by not having enough Rating Stars. If it once again achieves Hall of Fame status, it gets "locked" for a new 7 Days.
This way, Hall of Fame Griefers can't do anything to Arcs that achieve Hall of Fame, and it allows the rest of us to do what the Developers want us to do: Find Arcs that the Community feel are really worthwhile, and play them.
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