Fire. WP and Invuln are OK but Fire's the go-to set for PvP right now.
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ok, WP is the way to go hands down. also another primary that goes great with WP is Energy melee, but as of i13 SS is hands down #1.
I have to disagree with the first response you got. Fire is hands down one of the worst for PvP i have found. They have no knockback protection to start out with and yes you can get about 8 points of KB protection but that's with a gimped build and for a scrapper like mine with a power that has an 18.32 mag KB, that 8 points wont help a lick.
Invuln and WP both have KB protection, but IMO WP is the best of the best for brutes.
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Fire is best because because you can get more damage. KB protection is easy to get from IOs and/or Acro, which you should be taking anyway. With the recent buffs, Invuln is better than WP by a good margin.
/WP wins pve sux pvp. Fire is good pve and pvp once you start droping 500Mil + and can over take /WP if you invest enough.
Inv gets molested by psi all day
SS/Fire or SS/Fire
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Inv gets molested by psi all day
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As opposed to Fire?
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Inv gets molested by psi all day
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How do you figure that? Inv gets psi resistance in PVP now...
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ok, WP is the way to go hands down. also another primary that goes great with WP is Energy melee, but as of i13 SS is hands down #1.
I have to disagree with the first response you got. Fire is hands down one of the worst for PvP i have found. They have no knockback protection to start out with and yes you can get about 8 points of KB protection but that's with a gimped build and for a scrapper like mine with a power that has an 18.32 mag KB, that 8 points wont help a lick.
Invuln and WP both have KB protection, but IMO WP is the best of the best for brutes.
If you have any questions feel free to contact me ingame @ninjavampyre, which is my global.
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You really don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you?
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Something about a ~50% heal up all the time and thx to free pvp debuf resistance + winter's gift it is tough to slow that down now.
Thank you all for your response. It is actually really nice to see an actual discussion about what is the best Brute as opposed to there being a clear choice. I am leaning toward /fire or /inv. Is any particular set better at lvler lvl pvp? Pvp in SC for example?
The only real discussion is from people that don't seem to really know what they're talking about. Fire is simply way ahead of everything else at this point.
Inv is only good with insane IO investments. Same with WP. They're not horrible, but you have to spend like 2 billion on them to make them good. Meanwhile, fire is fine right out of the box, and gets even better with IO's.
For sirens call, it's an even bigger disparity than level 50. There, I wouldn't even think of using anything but fire. Inv and WP get absolutely destroyed by blasters there.
As everyone who knows even a decent amount has said, fire. The heal and extra damage are too good to pass up. They really should have a competency test to join the pvpec
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Fire is best because because you can get more damage. KB protection is easy to get from IOs and/or Acro, which you should be taking anyway. With the recent buffs, Invuln is better than WP by a good margin.
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I don't like wp on a brute really, it has the same values as a scrapper, and since fury is always broke that damage spike from fire is sexy. And with billions invested, and that heal you'll be sick.
Also having to waste a pool power on a heal hampers you on a wp build, also i had to really go all out to get a 3k hp build with dr on. So on a brute it will be considerably harder for various reasons.
I like fire better on a broot 
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ok, WP is the way to go hands down. also another primary that goes great with WP is Energy melee, but as of i13 SS is hands down #1.
I have to disagree with the first response you got. Fire is hands down one of the worst for PvP i have found. They have no knockback protection to start out with and yes you can get about 8 points of KB protection but that's with a gimped build and for a scrapper like mine with a power that has an 18.32 mag KB, that 8 points wont help a lick.
Invuln and WP both have KB protection, but IMO WP is the best of the best for brutes.
If you have any questions feel free to contact me ingame @ninjavampyre, which is my global.
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You really don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you?
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be easy mac. i dont think he understands dr like most people dont. I mean come on when will we have the hard numbers. I dont think the devs even understand it. lol with dr ur gonna get knockedback sometimes anyways since the craziness of dr. Now i dont have a brute, but plan to make one soon. ive always heard ss/fire is the way to go. that fast heal and better build variations makes it way better then wp.
I have a wp scrapper that does pretty good in pvp, but thats at the cost at no heal in set and therefore having to take aid self. and really working the best out of a set where u almost have to take everything in it. One of the best parts about wp is its ability against psi, but u can get good resistance from psi now with fire with the pvp resistance accross the boards and some good io setting.
long story short go /fire
I might not know brutes due to me not having one, but I do know what ones have challenged my toon in the past. and they were WP, Thus I say WP. I find fire way to easy to kill, but that is just my personal opinion.
From what I can tell on the forums... SS/ is the way to go. Which is of the secondaries is better for pvp?
/Fire
/Inv
/WP
Any suggestions? What might be a better build if it were fully IO'd out? This is not only my first Brute, but it is my first melee toon. I sort of like the graphics of WP and INV more than fire but I can deal if it turns out to be fun to play and successful at pvp.