What's the deal?


AkuTenshiiZero

 

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What's the deal with 90% of MA content stacking mez to the ROOF? I hate mez, it aint fun, it aint challengeing, it's just damned annoying and it gets 1 stared.


The more people I meet, the more I'm beginning to root for the zombies.

 

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What's the deal with 90% of MA content stacking mez to the ROOF? I hate mez, it aint fun, it aint challengeing, it's just damned annoying and it gets 1 stared.

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I'm hard pressed to think of any 40+ group that doesn't utilize alot of crowd control.

Arachnoids maybe. Some of the praetorian sub-factions.


Let's Dance!

 

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I pondered this also. My first custom group is a little nasty with the mez, but tht's what I wanted, and I intended them being matched up with higher level mobs in their missions. I am however running into a problem with setting this parameter however. My first custom group is intended to be a mid to high level challenge, but so far I belive I am limited to what level the mission can spawn at. others are having problems with EBs, so who knows, a major tweak might be cooking up fast.

That being said, I think that MA will bring out the "subconscious play style," of many players, and there will be the temptation to make as nasty of a critter combo as you can.

Me I stuck to a theme, but that's not to say that I didn't get an old Dungeon's and Dragon's evil glee from what I was creating. In short I didn't set out to mez everyone to death, but it may seem so (My critters are using confuse--which has a super short duratio--and sleeps Oh my!).

I suppose that my arc may get poor ratings for this. That's what seems to be one of teh emerging rants for some already. Terms like griefing are being thrown around. I hope that doesn't happen to me and others if a lot of players share your annoyance.

One thing to do might be to just avoid custom critter missions, if it's possible to filter them out?


 

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Based on some of the "interesting" post regarding some having something against mezzing opponents, a tag in the description filed like the EB/AV tag might be helpful to those looking to avoid mez enemies.

Some "do" avoid mez enemies in the PvE game 1-50 so, this is to be expected. A quick tag like(EB/AV is 3rd mission), Some mez or light or heavy mez etc.. could help people looking to avoid these enemies all together.


The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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What's the deal with airline food??

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)


 

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It's a failure to realize what four minions with mez powers are capable of. My Brute, with mez protection up, has gotten chain-held numerous times running missions solo.


 

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It's a failure to realize what four minions with mez powers are capable of. My Brute, with mez protection up, has gotten chain-held numerous times running missions solo.

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Ah, that ya, coupled with that we don't have the ability to constrain to 1/per group like the devs do with Malta Sappers. And frankly our custom groups may not have that much diversity to avoid it happening alot anyway.


Let's Dance!

 

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AND to derail my own thread, I'm about sick and tired of my toggles and click not working when I move to a new map


The more people I meet, the more I'm beginning to root for the zombies.

 

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All I have to say is DO NOT give your minions ANY level of Devices. A lot of people are doing this for soldiers, and they don't seem to realize how busted the AI is with Web Grenade. Spammity spammity spam! It's enough to drive you up the frickin' wall! 3+ Minions and my recharges are gone! They don't even try to kill you, they just murder the hell out of your recharge and immobilize you to boot (Sucks to be melee!!).

/RANT!


The off-beat space pirate...Capt. Stormrider (50+3 Elec/Storm Science Corruptor)
The mysterious Djinn...Emerald Dervish (50+1 DB/DA Magic Stalker)
The psychotic inventor...Dollmaster (50 Bot/FF Tech Mastermind)

Virtue Forever.

 

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All I have to say is DO NOT give your minions ANY level of Devices. A lot of people are doing this for soldiers, and they don't seem to realize how busted the AI is with Web Grenade. Spammity spammity spam! It's enough to drive you up the frickin' wall! 3+ Minions and my recharges are gone! They don't even try to kill you, they just murder the hell out of your recharge and immobilize you to boot (Sucks to be melee!!).

/RANT!

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I call your Minions with Web Grenade and raise you Minions with Caltrops as well.

Worst one was a mistake of my own: Bots/Devices Boss. Summoned all her bots and then proceeded to spam Smoke Grenade, which stacked with the Seeker Drones from the Protector Bots.

Death via invisible robots is not fun.


 

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Yeah, my suicide combo was minions with Electric Assault/Devices and LTs with Electric Blast/Trick Arrow. Blind, immob, -recharge, and craploads of -End.

Immob stacked high enough to work combined with -End makes a Brute very, very sad. Glad I tested that before I released it, though I only had to test it once.


 

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Yeah, my suicide combo was minions with Electric Assault/Devices and LTs with Electric Blast/Trick Arrow. Blind, immob, -recharge, and craploads of -End.

Immob stacked high enough to work combined with -End makes a Brute very, very sad. Glad I tested that before I released it, though I only had to test it once.

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I made a similar mistake. As my first experiment with MA, I created an army of clones of my main. Yeah, everything was Elec Blast/Storm. Not only did they ruin my endurance in .5 seconds, but they O2 Boosted like crazy. It was only funny because it was a totally un-serious attempt at MA...But holy crap I learned a harsh lesson :P


The off-beat space pirate...Capt. Stormrider (50+3 Elec/Storm Science Corruptor)
The mysterious Djinn...Emerald Dervish (50+1 DB/DA Magic Stalker)
The psychotic inventor...Dollmaster (50 Bot/FF Tech Mastermind)

Virtue Forever.

 

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02 is a pain, I would think everyone would have realized that from Tsoo Sorcerers though

I've noticed how much of a pain the web grenade thing is lately. One odd thing, though, is how extremely painful electric blast can be. Even one electric blast lieutenant keeps me gasping for endurance at times.

Also, fire blast + ice blast with both on extreme on an AV is insane. I got fire rained + ice stormed and pretty much got stuck mid-air (was hovering) while my duo partner got blasted to death and the rain dots killed me.


 

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One of the characters in my first arc is a buddy's toon, so I made her an EB with Electric Blast/Devices...both on Extreme (well, at the time, you couldn't choose, so it was just Extreme).

Oy...

**facepalm**

My 50 tank on Unyielding with Unstoppable on still went down like a pole-axed mule. I couldn't attack, I had no end at all and I couldn't move.


Dec out.

 

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Also, fire blast + ice blast with both on extreme on an AV is insane. I got fire rained + ice stormed and pretty much got stuck mid-air (was hovering) while my duo partner got blasted to death and the rain dots killed me.

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I need to make one of those, put them in a battle with Ghost Widow and just go in and watch.

REVENGE!!!


Dec out.

 

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I really made the entire faction to prove how extremely dangerous the Outcasts would be if they leveled up a bit. I never thought about the whole idea of getting hit by both rains and potentially blizzard all at once with 2xAim

Double blast powerset bosses and double melee attack powerset minions are really really rough (except for maybe trollers and heavy debuff defs, which is why I mixed up the faction a bit)


 

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One odd thing, though, is how extremely painful electric blast can be. Even one electric blast lieutenant keeps me gasping for endurance at times.

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Electrical Assault + Ranged AI is an awesome substitute for this. I later proceeded to make a short mission where you fight my villian, and made him an Elec Assault/Regen Boss. No -end nightmare, but plenty of firepower to make him a challenge. As long as you watch out for Zapp, Elec Assault makes for a completely fair enemy.


The off-beat space pirate...Capt. Stormrider (50+3 Elec/Storm Science Corruptor)
The mysterious Djinn...Emerald Dervish (50+1 DB/DA Magic Stalker)
The psychotic inventor...Dollmaster (50 Bot/FF Tech Mastermind)

Virtue Forever.

 

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My custom villain group is a bit of an unlikely combo that hurts.

Three levels of flying range fighters (like Neuron and Anti-matter)
Elec Blast/Elec Armor minions
NRG blast/NRG Aura LTs
Rad Blast/Rad Emission bosses

And three levels of melee
MA/SR (I think) Minions
MA/NRG Melee (I think) LTs
Claws/Ninjutsu Bosses

I play an elec^3 blaster, and I typically sap my enemies first. The melee-ers are no problem to sap (which is why i can't recall their powers off-hand) but when the minions of the elec persuation go after me, I can't sap them, and they start sapping me. When they do, the MA guys stack their stuns on me. if not for the fact that I'm a blaster, I'd be totally helpless.

It's exciting, really. But, I imagine that I'll be getting 1-starred left and right because of it.


Victory
Schattenbolt - Blaster Elec/Elec/Elec
Pierce Steele - Blaster Arch/MM/Munitions

Paragons of Victory

 

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I did something similar and did my testing with Blaster and a Stalker. I thought the squishier side of things would do it. Well, I got compliments on costumes, storyline, but my choice of minions was not desireable for the same reason as yours. You can't please everyone, but you can at least test with some different AT's so you understand where people might be coming from. Not every MA mission will be good for everyone, just like the game now. Don't like having Lts. healing minions? Well, don't fight the Tsoo. Y'know, that kind of thing.

I changed 3 of my 4 minions from ranged to melee. They still use their ranged attacks but don't run away to use them. They'll stay up close. Admittedly, chasing down minions in every mob is not fun.