The Dev's Mistakes!


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Edit : Though I wonder, did this toon win PvP matches Solo in the old system either?

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No, but as any emp, he could be extremely helpful to any team. Compared to now, where the toon is completely useless. Can't kill anything OR be an effective buffer.

That's not even my toon, but I know how it feels. I have toons that were made 100% useless by I13. Ironically, my "unplayable" ones stayed unplayable.

You're welcome to your opinion of course....but it's like having an opinion that the Earth is flat.

I just wanted to briefly go over the 4 toons you mentioned.

Fire/Fire Brute - Was powerful before I13....didn't need any buffs really. After I13, it's pretty FotM. Not quite as much as SS/fire, but close.

Nightwidow - Godlike before I13....overpowered to the point of brokenness after I13.

Sonic/sonic Corruptor and a Rad/Rad defender - Both MUCH worse in I13 than before. The sonic is flat out useless now since the buffs do basically nothing, and the rad is a joke compared to what he was before.

So please explain....how is I13 good? Out of your 4 toons, 2 great toons were turned into a joke...and 2 very powerful ones were made overpowered. I'm sorry...but I fail to see how that is good game design.


 

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i13 is good cuz now I can go into zones and....

SPIRIT SHARKFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

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(Everyone can play, no one is invincible)

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This is still wrong.


 

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(Everyone can play, no one is invincible)

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Super reflexes, Widows...

what am I missing?


 

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Yeah it put certain ATs especially most Doms except *cough*fire/elec*cough* out of the picture, you almost never see support ATs in zones anymore (it's always blasters, scrappers, widows and forts). Stalkers aren't that great either, the damage output is lame, especially AS.

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Eh? Doms are like the PvP 2.0 Blasters now. Sure there aren't many viable combos (but that holds true for almost every AT, lol powerset balance indeed) but Doms still do respectably. Gogo Mind, Fire, Elec, and Fiery...

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Though I wonder, did this toon win PvP matches Solo in the old system either?

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I only ever did one duel with that toon pre-I13, as a joke match against a Peacebringer. We tied.

Other than that? I was always happy to bring that toon into arena or zone teams and was glad to play the role of buffer because even if I wasn't contributing to the kill count, I was making sure my teammates stayed alive and well-buffed. In I13 I can't do either.


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Yea seriously. I've had people tell me doms are gimp....they are just blasters.


 

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No, but as any emp, he could be extremely helpful to any team. Compared to now, where the toon is completely useless. Can't kill anything OR be an effective buffer.

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Okay I won't argue with your own experiences, though I'll say, you and say a scrapper vs my brute alone, you would likely win the fight.

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Fire/Fire Brute - Was powerful before I13....didn't need any buffs really. After I13, it's pretty FotM. Not quite as much as SS/fire, but close.

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o.O My brute was powerful in Pre-13? I'll give to you that anything with fire damage couldn't hurt me but otherwise, with 5 full purples sets and all the best IO's, my brute still couldn't win anything.

In teams I'd get destroyed by ranged attacks.
In 1 vs 1 matches I could fight some tanks and scrappers to a stand still, but I rarely ever got a kill. Perhaps you were doing something I wasn't.

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Nightwidow - Godlike before I13....overpowered to the point of brokenness after I13.

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No arguements there, though I still lose fights on her.

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Sonic/sonic Corruptor and a Rad/Rad defender - Both MUCH worse in I13 than before. The sonic is flat out useless now since the buffs do basically nothing, and the rad is a joke compared to what he was before.

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I think my sonic corruptor is still a solid addition to a team. Flies in, gives some team buffs (they aren't as big as they were pre-I13 but every little bit helps). I do pretty well with her and I bet a better PvP'er than myself would do a lot better.

My Rad, yeah at my Rad, though I bet if I had a real travel power instead of Teleport he would do better.


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Dear ELF_STALKER,

Hi, I'm OPTICAL_ILLUSION. The Devs DID NOT make a mistake. The Fight Club was perfectly created. Get over it already. If you don't like it then go to the Arena please.


A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670

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Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

 

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Everybody know that I13 was a bust. Still Errors on being equal. All the Dev's did was switch things around. Certain builts was good are now crap and vise versa. My concern is are the gold farmers in Rv... They sit in a PFF bubble by base the villain base and farm. Its so hard or impossible to kill them in PFF....... SMART DEV'S that should lose there jobs i say or switch to a different department. I saw many good friend leave this game because what the Dev's did to this game. Now Dev's are so lazy that they want us to create missions now basically doing there job for i14. Don't get me wrong it would be nice to create are mission.. kinda like SIMS. I know the dev's can't maybe everyone happy but more then 3/4 say that i13 was stupid. DEV's need stop being quite about there failure and admit your failure and try to correct it. what dev's can do is take a poll or a survey about pvp issue and base it off those results. BY GOSH SDOING SOMETHING ABOUT PFF.... SLOW RECHARGE OR LESS DEFENSE

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Well done ELF STALKER


 

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PFF apparently got the old nerferony


 

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PFF apparently got the old nerferony

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Along with everything else that has elusivity. PFF went from 80% to 50% and most other things went from 30% to 10%, obviously it wasnt PFF that was OP, but elusivity.......yay nonlogical devs...

Can we kick castle in the nuts yet?

/e headdesk


 

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Can we kick castle in the nuts yet?

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That would be against the Figh Club way. Shame on you!

More nerfs will be implemented for that question. Enjoy!


A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670

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Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

 

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PFF apparently got the old nerferony

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Along with everything else that has elusivity. PFF went from 80% to 50% and most other things went from 30% to 10%, obviously it wasnt PFF that was OP, but elusivity.......yay nonlogical devs...

Can we kick castle in the nuts yet?

/e headdesk

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Kicking Castle in the nuts has been nerfed due to fast animation time.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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PFF apparently got the old nerferony

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Along with everything else that has elusivity. PFF went from 80% to 50% and most other things went from 30% to 10%, obviously it wasnt PFF that was OP, but elusivity.......yay nonlogical devs...

Can we kick castle in the nuts yet?

/e headdesk

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Kicking Castle in the nuts has been nerfed due to fast animation time.

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Jump kick or kick?


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PFF apparently got the old nerferony

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Along with everything else that has elusivity. PFF went from 80% to 50% and most other things went from 30% to 10%, obviously it wasnt PFF that was OP, but elusivity.......yay nonlogical devs...

Can we kick castle in the nuts yet?

/e headdesk

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Kicking Castle in the nuts has been nerfed due to fast animation time.

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Jump kick or kick?

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jump kick would involve a very short toon in this scenario.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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How about flurry to the nuts?

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That's too OP.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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I dont think it was OP'd enough.

How about a fish missile from hide right to the bawlz, placate repeat.


 

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How about i flurry my nuts and we make him watch!!!!


 

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How about i flurry my nuts and we make him watch!!!!

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that reminded me of varsity blues.


 

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How about i flurry my nuts and we make him watch!!!!

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I laughed a lot at that, you funny guy.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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i laughed so hard when i read this. that youtube vid is great too. nothing like waking up to some good laughs


 

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It's plain and simple imo. The devs could care less about the players.
i14 killed farming, which is so sad.
i14 has almost killed normal teaming
i13 pretty much killed pvp
Umm....sooo...whats left now?
The devs just WANT us to quit



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from where I'm sitting farming is better than ever, so far i14 has been a farming utopia. Did I miss a recent change?

general teaming has taken a hit though, that I'd agree with.

i13/14 pvp is bad though, very much agree. Still fun at times, but just sad how good it "could" have been with someone who has a clue behind the wheel.