The Course of Superhero Romance... (Discussions)


Agent_7734

 

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Aaah. There we go, now I can put it in the site


 

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Even if it's a little late, Merry Christmas everyone


 

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Been almost a month...

NEED MOAR NOW.

totally missed NOVWRIMO or whatever it's called.


 

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Seems I got a belated Christmas present from two CoH players!



Sora and Raymond celebrating New Year's together... awwwwww!

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite


Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)

 

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Samuraiko/Dark_Respite,

Your wonderful "City of" videos amazed me with the level of storytelling, humor, and pure technical skill. Imagine my delight when I stumbled across this offering. I've read fan fiction before, and really enjoyed some of the "what ifs" they provide...but I have to say, this is an entirely different creature.

I waited to post until I had read the first story arc of "The Course of Superhero Romance" IN ITS ENTIRETY, and I'm glad that I did! This goes beyond fan fiction, into the realm of the true writer...the heart of storytelling. You took characters I felt I already knew (at least somewhat), and truly HUMANIZED them. Your characterizations were SPOT ON! I found myself actually CARING about what happened, rooting for the heroes, cheering their triumphs, and sharing their sorrows.

You are a truly creative and talented person. I wish you every success, and thank you deeply for such a touching experience!


 

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Samuraiko/Dark_Respite,

Your wonderful "City of" videos amazed me with the level of storytelling, humor, and pure technical skill. Imagine my delight when I stumbled across this offering. I've read fan fiction before, and really enjoyed some of the "what ifs" they provide...but I have to say, this is an entirely different creature.

I waited to post until I had read the first story arc of "The Course of Superhero Romance" IN ITS ENTIRETY, and I'm glad that I did! This goes beyond fan fiction, into the realm of the true writer...the heart of storytelling. You took characters I felt I already knew (at least somewhat), and truly HUMANIZED them. Your characterizations were SPOT ON! I found myself actually CARING about what happened, rooting for the heroes, cheering their triumphs, and sharing their sorrows.

You are a truly creative and talented person. I wish you every success, and thank you deeply for such a touching experience!
Wow, thanks very much for the compliments! The sequel is already begun (and book THREE is in the storyboard phase)... just a bit derailed due to the job search. *sighs*

Again, I'm glad you enjoyed TCoSR as much as you did! Feel free to spread the word as a "Supporter of Nerd Flirting"!

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite


Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)

 

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Okay, how did I miss this for so long?

I had seen the little banners on occasion but I never actually was inspired to find out what they were talking about. I can't say what possessed me to actually start reading it but once I did I was hooked. Hooked I say!

The biggest weakness of the so called "signature" heroes of the City Of universe is that they're flat and lifeless stereotypes. In this story you have actually made the Freedom Phalanx personable and sympathetic, even Statesman (which takes some doing, as he's pretty much come across as a complete d**k in every other place we've seen him). Positron and Synapse are of course the standouts. They are the classic comedic duo, the straight man and the joker, but in your characterizations, they work really well in those roles.

And my favorite scenes are when Posi and Sorina are setting up their kissing experiments. Wonderfully charming.

So yeah. Good stuff. Write more.


"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

"Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man."

- Thomas Jefferson

 

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Ask and ye shall receive... the newest chapter of THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE II is now available.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite


Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)

 

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Awesome Work! You never disappoint, not in writing, video's, or the chance team-up in game! Keep up the amazing work

Thor.. aka PseudoCool


PseudoCool - Justice - L50 NRG/Elec/Elec Blaster Crazy 8's SuperGroup
CoolShade - Liberty - L50 Dark/Dark/BM Scrapper AlphA Stryke SuperGroup

 

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There's only one small difficulty: The world's problems NEVER wait for tomorrow when you're a super hero!

Be prepared for a rather large explosion soon...


There is no such thing as an "innocent bystander"

 

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Never cease to amaze me Mich.

and all I can say for what is in store for the Future is hehehehehehe >:-)


 

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*laughs*

Who added the "tomorrow never comes" tag?

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite


Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)

 

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*laughs*

Who added the "tomorrow never comes" tag?

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
That would be me. Your local sarcastic wit

as well as a huge fan! flirt hard!


There is no such thing as an "innocent bystander"

 

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Be prepared for a rather large explosion soon...
Heh, that's not quite the right word... but it'll do.


Where to find me after the end:
The Secret World - Arcadia - Shinzo
Rift - Faeblight - Bloodspeaker
LotRO - Gladden - Aranelion
STO - Holodeck - @Captain_Thiraas

Obviously, I don't care about NCSoft's forum rules, now.

 

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To my shame, it wasn't seeing you (or somebody, I wasn't logging the convo) ask Posi about Sorina last night in the D that got me to read TCoSR1. It was seeing it linked from your .sig in, I think, the sixth anniversary memories thread.

Wow. Just... wow. I am in awe. I read it in a number of small but no less swell foops, and I am through the wringer in a good way.

*applauds*


Hi, my name is @Bouncing Betty, and I... am an altaholic. (Hi, Betty.)

"I seem to remember only centuries of heroic war, in which you were always heroes - epic on epic, iliad on iliad, and you always brothers in arms."
-- G.K. Chesterton, "The Man Who Was Thursday"

 

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Hey Mich you snagged another one.

you better start cranking out the chapters again. The natives are gonna get restless.

and Did you get the email I sent you about JJ?


 

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Hey Mich you snagged another one. ...
+1
Finally finished up the first arc and caught up on the 2nd one
They were great, I enjoyed them all, almost makes me want to roll a hero, but I enjoy being evil too much

Thanks Dark_Respite!

edit: Oh I hear that Scooter's got some stories too, gonna have to read em also

2nd edit: (I need to learn to put all my thoughts down at once) @D_R - I love how you describe the powers your characters use, I had fun figuring out what AT and power sets each one was


I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, Keep me here!

 

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And now, because I was asked to link it here, I present you all with a cute image of Tava:

http://tygenco.deviantart.com/art/Pr...Exam-162904748

Inspired most specifically by part 31, in which the mention of a private lecture with a practical exam leads to that white orchid being put back in her hair--which then leads to a time break and, I'm certain, a good deal of "it's about freakin' time!"


 

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@D_R - I love how you describe the powers your characters use, I had fun figuring out what AT and power sets each one was
Heh, both of us being occasional Champions RPG players, we follow the whole "reason from effect" process: decide what a power does and what it looks like, and then pick whatever best fits. Particularly easy since I-16, naturally. Folks that use the (blaster) Energy front set to represent water-based attacks have been doing this for a long time, and I'm sure there are other examples.


Where to find me after the end:
The Secret World - Arcadia - Shinzo
Rift - Faeblight - Bloodspeaker
LotRO - Gladden - Aranelion
STO - Holodeck - @Captain_Thiraas

Obviously, I don't care about NCSoft's forum rules, now.

 

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I've run into one of the irritating problems when it comes to writing about characters that aren't mine. My characters, I know. I understand. I can usually guess how they'd react to things. But other people's characters? Not so easy. And it's even worse when it's someone's character that I can't just go ask the someone, "Hey, would your character do this or that?" *coughcoughmattcoughcoughhackwheeze*

Most of the Star Patrol/Nova Dominion, no problem. I know all the players, and they're cool about stuff like this. But I'm gonna be throwing Posi and the Phalanx into some really rough situations, and it's proving really hard to figure out which way they'll jump.

Any other CoH fandom writers have the same problem? Help?

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite


Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)

 

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0.o


>.>


<.<


...



FIRST!!!


And I didn't even peek.


Where to find me after the end:
The Secret World - Arcadia - Shinzo
Rift - Faeblight - Bloodspeaker
LotRO - Gladden - Aranelion
STO - Holodeck - @Captain_Thiraas

Obviously, I don't care about NCSoft's forum rules, now.

 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
I've run into one of the irritating problems when it comes to writing about characters that aren't mine. My characters, I know. I understand. I can usually guess how they'd react to things. But other people's characters? Not so easy. And it's even worse when it's someone's character that I can't just go ask the someone, "Hey, would your character do this or that?" *coughcoughmattcoughcoughhackwheeze*

Most of the Star Patrol/Nova Dominion, no problem. I know all the players, and they're cool about stuff like this. But I'm gonna be throwing Posi and the Phalanx into some really rough situations, and it's proving really hard to figure out which way they'll jump.

Any other CoH fandom writers have the same problem? Help?

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite


Ah, the perrenial "someone else's character" problem. Particularly tricky when used in the same setting as that character originated (well, to us, at least).

There are, I think, three ways to approach this issue, but you need to remember one thing - the "core" idea of the character (more on that later).

1) Do what comic writers do: Make the character fit your perception of them. Less satisfying than the other options, but it allows you to write whatever you want. If you want Positron to be serious and gritty, make him serious and gritty. If you need him to be lighthearted and jokey, make him lighthearted and jokey.

2) Write only from the perspective of the "core idea" - use it, abuse it, overuse it, then use it again. Synapse will always be up for a laugh, looking for the main chance, and his actions will reflect that.

3) Read, reread, read again everything that there is about the characters in canon material (so, character bio's, The Freedom Phalanx novel, the comics, the TF's, everything they ever say to anyone) and squeeze your writing to fit.

Odds are you will find some middle ground among the three (number 2 is probably the most satisfying from a creativity perspective), but no matter what you do, remember the "core idea" of each of the characters (and, if the opportunity presents itself, take a look at their Praetorian counterparts - you can probably learn a lot from those).

Here's my take on the main signature characters:

Statesman: Responsibility, duty, honour. Statesman represents ideals. The sort of hero that everyone looks up to, but because of his rigid adherence to those ideals, some other heroes may find him... grating.

Manticore: Dedication, ruthlessness, pragmatism. Manticore represents someone who is willing to do what is necessary to get the job done. And he doesn't always do what's 'right' to make it happen. He is by no means a bad man, since he has the best interests of others at heart, but he will not shirk from pretty much any action short of killing someone to achieve his goals.

Sister Psyche: Wisdom, knowledge, passion. Possibly the most complex of the Freedom Pahalanx, Sister Psyche is equal parts verve for life and mature wisdom. Her insights into the minds of others allows her to see what perspective they're coming from, and she is utterly dedicated to making the lives of others better.

Synapse: Fun, zest, pleasure. Synapse represents the desire of everyone to just flat out have fun. He is able and willing to apply boundless energy to this goal, yet is tempered by a deep understanding that he has a duty to allow others the have fun too - and to allow others the opportunity to have fun.

Citadel: Reasoning, logic, understanding. Citadel is a fascinating character. Utterly ruled by logic and reasoning, he is also one of the most human of the Phalanx, because he actually puts effort into understanding all of the things that drive others. He is the most likely to find beauty in anything, because he tries to, and he is utterly implacable when he a goal.

Positron: Intelligence, focus, precision. Positron is all about clarity, analysis and excellence. He is uncomfortable dealing with things outside his areas of expertise, which fortunately cover pretty much every aspect of scientific endeavour. Think of Leonard from The Big Bang Theory. That's Positron, except smarter than Sheldon and while he's undoubtedly still as geeky, it is tempered by an idealism that heroism is simply 'right'. Fortunately for him, Positron isn't socially inept, it's just that most of his effort is directed elsewhere.

I could probably go on and on, but at the end of the day that should be enough to get my point across.

Even if the "owners" of those characters have never considered them in terms of personality (highly unlikely, but stranger things have happened) those are the things that I would try to bear in mind when writing them. It will probably slow down your pace of writing, but if, every time you think about how, say, Synapse would act in a given situation, if you can answer the question "how would he (Steve Berry, Accountant, Speedster, flirt, good guy, thinks he's witty) have the most fun at a time like this?", you will probably be pretty close to the mark.

The other thing to remember is that no character should ever be a bland two-dimensional figure (okay, I know I'm trying to teach Granny to suck eggs, here, but it's important, and other writers might get something out of this), unless all they're there for is to get hit once in the face and be sent to the Zig. They're not heroes because they decided to put on spandex and fight crime; they're not heroes because of the odds they face. They're heroes because they put themselves on the line, never give up, fight for others and believe in the "job". They all have flaws, they all have good points, but at the end of the day they all ultimately want the same thing. Their methods may not agree (think of Statesman and Manticore's perpetual disagreements in the comics), but they know that they all want the same thing, and that together they're stronger than they are alone.


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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Thanks, Shadowe. As a general rule, I've got the mindsets of the Phalanx pretty well-covered... when they're in situations that they'd be accustomed to finding themselves in. But they're going to find themselves in a situation that is WAAAY beyond their experience (actually, in several, now that I think about it), and so far, I've managed not to scare more than one or two people off with the reaction of, "Oh God, Positron/States/whoever would never do that."

Oh, well - I shall muddle along as best I can and see who sticks around for the rest of the story.

BTW - I heard an interesting rumor that not only has a good chunk of the GM team (the customer service guys) read this story and follow it, but so do the mods! I wonder if I should bring a SuperHeroRomance.com t-shirt to PAX for Ocho?

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite


Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)

 

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I'm pretty sure their reactions to the realms of the weird would still devolve to their basic nature, though.

Certainly not going to argue that you have their personalities pretty much down pat.

I guess it really depends on what you're going to be putting them through, and how far outside their comfort-zones it takes them. I'm sure as heck going to keep reading.

Oh, and a big yes from me on the t-shirt idea.


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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Michelle you tease I saw in my subscribed threads a new post in the story thread...

no i was just some goober who can't read the instructions.


Obligatory NEED MOAR NAO!!!!