Guide to the I12 Powerset Proliferation

This chart (click here) represents the distribution of powersets for the 10 non-Epic ATs of CoH/V.

This chart (click here) represents how I12 is changing them. The highlighted powersets are the ones that have moved. The highlighted category is where that powerset has moved from.

As of this post, we only know of 5 powerset proliferations. Once the rest are announced, this chart will show where the rest of them have occurred.

Some points to make:

1. This seem to be only the sharing of powersets that were owned by one or more ATs with another AT. Not brand new sets.
   
2. This is *NOT* 'side-switching'. This does not introduce Villain ATs to the Hero side or vice versa. There will be no Heroic Corruptors, though, now, Controllers will get Plant Control, which was once only limited to Dominators.
   
3. MMs do not share their Summons Primary with any other AT, and so, they aren't getting any 'proliferated' primary powersets (but they will get a proliferated secondary).
   
4. Dominator Assault Secondary and Blaster Support Secondary also do not share their powersets with any other ATs, so, we're not sure at this point if they're getting brand new powersets or if they're getting a reworked version of some other AT's powerset. But we do know that they're getting something new... only the MM primary was specifically exempted according to Dev remarks.

Thanks for consolidating this information for us!

Slight Correction:

Castle says every AT gains at least 1 powerset. That means Masterminds will be getting a secondary. You might want to alter your charts.

The Mastermind assertions above make it sound like they aren't getting anything, which is untrue.

How come you differentiate between Katana and Ninja Blade?

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Slight Correction:

Castle says every AT gains at least 1 powerset. That means Masterminds will be getting a secondary. You might want to alter your charts.

The Mastermind assertions above make it sound like they aren't getting anything, which is untrue.

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Clarified that. Thanks.

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How come you differentiate between Katana and Ninja Blade?

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Because the game does.

Nice Guide Zombie man!.
Just that google Spreadsheet kinda gives me a headache when i try to decipher all the info it is giving me.

Mind you its the spreadsheet format, that is confusing upon first glance, not the info in it.

Dammit! see how confused i am I can't even make sense to myself about what i'm trying to say.

Wait--Where is the new set for scrappers?

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Wait--Where is the new set for scrappers?

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Only 5 of the 20 proliferated sets have been announced. We don't know what Scrappers are getting... yet.

We don't know what it is yet. I'm guessing the Op is only showing what the devs have confirmed.

Ok, so i might be an idiot and not being able to read charts, but, What are the dominators getting? Anything? I hoping for a stormie dom ... but i'm thinkin that is never gonna happen lol

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Ok, so i might be an idiot and not being able to read charts, but, What are the dominators getting? Anything? I hoping for a stormie dom ... but i'm thinkin that is never gonna happen lol

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We don't know yet, only five of the 20 proliferated powersets have been announced.

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Ok, so i might be an idiot and not being able to read charts, but, What are the dominators getting? Anything? I hoping for a stormie dom ... but i'm thinkin that is never gonna happen lol

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Dominators are getting a new primary and a new secondary. We have no idea what.

Wow bud, no offense - but that chart is almost unreadable. And I practically do Excel for a livin. Im not exactly sure what kind of info youre tryin to relay in it, but Im sure most are comin to this thread for the bare fact. Sumthin simple, like this:

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Blaster Primary: Psi Blast
Blaster Secondary: tba

Brute Primary: Battle Axe and War Mace
Brute Secondary: tba

Controller Primary: Plant
Controller Secondary: tba

Corruptor Primary: tba
Corruptor Secondary: Storm

Defender Primary: tba
Defender Secondary: tba

Dominator Primary: tba
Dominator Secondary: tba

MM Primary: None
MM Secondary: tba

Scrapper Primary: tba
Scrapper Secondary: tba

Stalker Primary: tba
Stalker Secondary: tba

Tanker Primary: tba
Tanker Secondary: tba
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(For those who dont know, tba = to be announced, and the bold red has been confirmed.)

So keep your spreadsheet goin if u like, but Id say add/update sumthin like this to your 1st post as well.

7th

Um, why is this in the guides section?

Because the OP used the word "guide" in the title of the post! Duh! (J/K)

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Wow bud, no offense - but that chart is almost unreadable. And I practically do Excel for a livin.

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The original chart is a breakdown of the Powerset Categories, which ATs use those Powerset Categories, and a listing of what those Powersets are in each category and which ATs use which Powersets.

The second chart shows where there's a shift in those classifications.

Now, since you're the Excel expert, if you can come up with a better chart which nearly fits in one screen and relays all that information, I'll happily remove mine and put yours in it's place.

Sure, I could simply list where those five powersets have moved to, like you did in your list. That's been posted hundreds of times in the forums. That's real easy to do. My chart shows what ATs previously owned those Powersets and are now sharing them with what new ATs. It also allows one to see where the possible new sharings will take place and what the score is with regard to which ATs' Primaries and Secondaries have how many Powersets.

I recognize the second chart isn't easy to follow by itself, that's why I also posted the original chart. Once you get used to how the information is laid out in the first chart, the second chart is a lot easier to follow.

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Um, why is this in the guides section?

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Because it's a guide.

If you don't think so, then send a PM to Ex Libris to have her move it out of here. Or hit the 'notify the moderator' button.

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Um, why is this in the guides section?

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Because it's a guide.

If you don't think so, then send a PM to Ex Libris to have her move it out of here. Or hit the 'notify the moderator' button.

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Hmm, a little sensitive I see. I'm not seeing it but to each there own.

Nice chart.

Assuming we collapse Ninja Blade and Katana, that means there are 15 melee sets, which is the max number of sets of any category. So theoretical equivalency between ATs would mean 15 sets in each category.

A tall order, for Summoning especially. But that makes me want to fill in the other sets up to 15 and see what I can come up with.

Actually, if you consider that melee needs Streetfighting, that makes it 16. (ó.ô)

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Um, why is this in the guides section?

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Because it's a guide.

If you don't think so, then send a PM to Ex Libris to have her move it out of here. Or hit the 'notify the moderator' button.

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Hmm, a little sensitive I see. I'm not seeing it but to each there own.

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Umm... you brought it up, so, the issue is with you.

Look through the other 4k threads here and see if they all fit your definition of a guide.

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Nice chart.

Assuming we collapse Ninja Blade and Katana, that means there are 15 melee sets, which is the max number of sets of any category. So theoretical equivalency between ATs would mean 15 sets in each category.

A tall order, for Summoning especially. But that makes me want to fill in the other sets up to 15 and see what I can come up with.

Actually, if you consider that melee needs Streetfighting, that makes it 16. (ó.ô)

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Although, four ATs have to share the Melee Powersets Category, while MMs have their Primary all to themselves.

OTOH, weapon customization makes Melee now seem like many more Powersets than it really is.

But, I like where you're heading: MMs need some love.

It's interesting that NCSoft came up with a story to go along with Powerset Proliferation. They've never bothered to concoct a backstory for new sets in the past.

What does it all mean? Any theories?

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Dominator Assault Secondary and Blaster Support Secondary also do not share their powersets with any other ATs, so, we're not sure at this point if they're getting brand new powersets or if they're getting a reworked version of some other AT's powerset. But we do know that they're getting something new... only the MM primary was specifically exempted according to Dev remarks.

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This just in from BAB:

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In the end, most powersets ended up being straight ports. Others required tinting the effects from hero to villain (or vice versa). Stalkers needed an Assasin's Strike. Dominators ended up getting a mix of powers from a melee set and a ranged set and the Blaster secondary ended up with a completely new power.

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Awww. Are Defenders getting any love at all?