No Siphon Power?
Ring of Fire?
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IMO The build is perfect.
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Which is fine, it'd just be nice to see more of your rationale behind it.
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All the powers I chose are for a specific set bonus addition.
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This, I think, could stand to use more elaboration. You mention a few of the sets, but you don't specify which bonuses you get--which would be helpful in a guide.
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There should be a section of the forum for builds.
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I think this place is fine if you just want to post builds, but I've always thought the idea should be that one explains them in more detail?
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If you have any questions about the build you can PM me.
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The idea behind the guide would be all the basic information should be there?
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I'm uncertain as to the benefits of Siphon Speed+Super Speed+Swift, seeing as Super Speed alone will let you hit the run cap. On the other hand, there's very little vertical movement without temp powers.
Siphon Speed's nice for the slow effect, but Hot Feet can do the same. Siphon Speed's run boost, however, does seem to make Super Speed a bit redundant; the Stealth effect is decent enough from SS, but there's nothing like Steamy Mist to stack it with; does it have Celerity +Stealth?
For vertical movement coupled with any of the run speed powers, why not pick IR? It's superjump, can get by with just one slot (or two, if you want to put in Unbounded Leap +Jump and +Stealth), and doesn't really need a recharge.
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Onyl one thing...Siphon speed does +recharge and stacked 2-3 times it can be quite helpful. Other then that I agree with everything.
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It does. I'd forgotten to mention that, but it's why I didn't complain that it was heavily slotted or that Hasten was in the build--bringing powers back faster is nicer.
Someone asked me to post a pic of my purples, so I did. I didnt know where to do it.
Everything except the end mod sets are 5 slotted for the most part because at 5 You get the +recharge.
The 3 end mod sets are 6 slotted for the +recharge.
Siphon power, I dont have because it doesnt take sets.. Stamina is required for my build I can fight so fast I run out of end alot. Without stamina would just be dumb. (for my character)
I go through the demon mission in about 8 minutes. Thats alot of foes going down really fast. My FS is up for every group. sometimes 2 times per single group.
Purples are the GREATEST thing that happend to this game.
Efficacy Adaptor x3 in Speed Boost, Transference, and Consume, six enhancements each leads to:
Max Health +1.13% * 3 = +3.39%
Recovery +1.5% * 3 = +4.5%
Regeneration +10% * 3 = +30%
Damage +2.5% * 3 = +7.5%
Recharge +5% * 3 = +15%
Doctored Wounds in Transfusion, five enhancements leads to:
Fear Duration -2.2%
Fire/Cold Resistance +1.26%
Healing +4%
Recharge +5%
Tempered Readiness in Hot Feet and Siphon Speed, five enhancements each leads to:
Recovery +1.5% * 2 = +3%
Slow Duration +1.5% * 2 = +3%
Max Endurance +0.9% * 2 = +1.8%
Recharge +3.75% * 2 = +7.5%
Decimation in Fire Blast and Ring of Fire, five enhancements each leads to:
Immobilize Duration -2.75% * 2 = -5.5%
Max Health +1.13% * 2 = +2.26%
Max Endurance +2.25% * 2 = +4.5%
Recharge +6.25% * 2 = +12.5%
Soulbound Allegiance in Fire Imps, four enhancements leads to:
Regeneration +16%
Max Health +3%
Damage +4%
Ragnarok in Fire Ball, five enhancements leads to:
Recovery +4%
Fire/Cold Resistance +2.52%
Accuracy +15%
Recharge +10%
Apocalypse in Char, five enhancements leads to:
Regeneration +16%
Max Health +3%
Damage +4%
Recharge +10%
Gravitational Anchor in Fire Cages, five enhancements leads to:
Recovery by 4%
Fire/Cold Resistance +2.52%
Accuracy +15%
Recharge +10%
Unbreakable Constraint in Cinders, five enhancements leads to:
Recovery +4%
Fire/Cold Resistance +2.52%
Accuracy +15%
Recharge +10%
Absolute Amazement in Flash Fire, five enhancements leads to:
Recovery +4%
Fire/Cold Resistance +2.52%
Accuracy +15%
Recharge +10%
In summation:
Max Health = +11.65%
Recovery = +19.5%
Regeneration = +62%
Damage = +15.5%
Recharge = +70%
Fear Duration -2.2%
Fire/Cold Resistance +8.82%
Healing +4%
Slow Duration = +3%
Max Endurance = +6.3%
Immobilize Duration = -5.5%
Accuracy = +45%
Couple the Recharge with the Hasten, and you get the powers coming back phenomenally fast, and add in the effects from Siphon Speed...
Accuracy at +45% lets you, more or less, hit things most of the time, meaning that Tactics isn't as needed. So I can see why that's not there, but I had to do all the math to get to the point.
There's the same issue with Siphon Power--it seems that you only got a +6.25% recharge boost from picking up Ring of Fire, which I don't know is a good trade over the damage boost that stacked Siphon Power would have given. Then again, with an overall +15.5% damage boost...
don't you mean most expensive? lol
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Siphon power, I dont have because it doesnt take sets.. Stamina is required for my build I can fight so fast I run out of end alot. Without stamina would just be dumb. (for my character)
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Well, yes. But couldn't you just fire off Transference and Consume a lot more?
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Siphon power, I dont have because it doesnt take sets.. Stamina is required for my build I can fight so fast I run out of end alot. Without stamina would just be dumb. (for my character)
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Well, yes. But couldn't you just fire off Transference and Consume a lot more?
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Im sorry im not as good at doing that stuff as I should be 
I do fire it off, but I would rather be shooting my fireball and my cages over and over than have to break for transference or consume.
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Someone asked me to post a pic of my purples, so I did. I didnt know where to do it.
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I'm glad you find such joy in 16 hour farming/7 days a week. Oh, and in constantly boasting/showing off your wealth and uberness over and over and over again. Self-agrandizement ftw, eh?
Anyway, theres worse habits for a girl to have I suppose.
To be fair, I suppose the build is instructive in regards to examing the disparity between a concept/or casual build and a high end farm build.
Masterminds annoy everybody, sooner or later. Heck, Masterminds annoy themselves.
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Someone asked me to post a pic of my purples, so I did. I didnt know where to do it.
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I'm glad you find such joy in 16 hour farming/7 days a week. Oh, and in constantly boasting/showing off your wealth and uberness over and over and over again. Self-agrandizement ftw, eh?
Anyway, theres worse habits for a girl to have I suppose.
To be fair, I suppose the build is instructive in regards to examing the disparity between a concept/or casual build and a high end farm build.
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I only farm about 3 hours a day... I stopped playing all the time a month after I9 went live.
Now P_P I just saw your last post before it was changed and personally I didnt like it. Saying "Cry Moar Please" is just a way to show your age. You are by all means too cocky in all your post basically saying you are better then everyone. Your build is NOT perfect nor is it a typical example of a Fire-Kin. You posted this guide so it could get critiqued and thats what all are doing. Take the advice and alter you guide a bit, because honestly this isnt even a guide. You are missing power pools still. Mids isnt too hard to Download to show statistics. But that all I have to say.
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Now P_P I just saw your last post before it was changed and personally I didnt like it. Saying "Cry Moar Please" is just a way to show your age. You are by all means too cocky in all your post basically saying you are better then everyone. Your build is NOT perfect nor is it a typical example of a Fire-Kin. You posted this guide so it could get critiqued and thats what all are doing. Take the advice and alter you guide a bit, because honestly this isnt even a guide. You are missing power pools still. Mids isnt too hard to Download to show statistics. But that all I have to say.
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Thats the thing, I think its perfect and thats all that matters to me. I didnt post it to be critiqued. I posted it because some people asked me to.
Cry Moar Plz ? Im 31.. and?
I am not missing anything for a farm build. There is absolutely nothing else needed for this build. I could put Armegeddon in Hot feet. Thats about it.
Its not a guide. Its a Build. My build. If other people wanna do the same build, then thats cool. If not.. thats on them. I saw some guy today that had a fire kin and all sorts of powers that were IMO worthless. But hey... If he wants to farm maps and it take him 45 minutes to get through it.. so be it. Takes me about 10-15 minutes to farm either the family mission or the demon mission. Solo set to 6.
I dont say I am better than anyone. That is how people interpret my posts. That is not my problem. For me, everyone here is posting saying they are better than me.. Thats why everyone feels the need to constantly put me down or put me in my place.
My place is at the top of the world. In MY HOUSE. I am no where in your house, or anyone elses. Just my house. And in MY HOUSE I INTEND ON BEING THE BEST.
Have a good day.
The post title btw says My Fire Kin Build, Not My fire kin Guide.
I posted it in the wrong place.. woops.
My $deity sidney, do you really need to post 7 times in a row?
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My $deity sidney, do you really need to post 7 times in a row?
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Why yes, yes she does.
One question? How is this build for levelling? I've been toying with making a (lol) Fire/Kin controller for farming and perhaps just a little random exploderising. Any thoughts on what to take as I move through the levels? Thanks!
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My $deity sidney, do you really need to post 7 times in a row?
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Why yes, yes she does.
One question? How is this build for levelling? I've been toying with making a (lol) Fire/Kin controller for farming and perhaps just a little random exploderising. Any thoughts on what to take as I move through the levels? Thanks!
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I had absolutely nothing in her slots til lvl 27. At 27 and 33 I put in lvl 30-35 set IOs... and then when she hit 50 I burned through lots of respecs, and took all that crap out.. and put Good Stuff in.
How many Respecs did it take to get all the other crap out? Usually takes me only 1.
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How many Respecs did it take to get all the other crap out? Usually takes me only 1.
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I put set IOs in every power that can take them. And I refuse to just respec any set IOs away and not resell them.
So took me about 4 respecs to completely redo the build.. plus 2 days ago I got really mad at my alt and bought a respec recipe respec just to put the LotG +Recharge in combat jumping..
It helped, I am less irked with her now.
And PP, just because there is "nothing missing" in the build doesn't mean that it is the best that it could possibly be. Just because you have everything that you want doesn't mean that another Fire/Kin build can't outperform yours.
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And PP, just because there is "nothing missing" in the build doesn't mean that it is the best that it could possibly be. Just because you have everything that you want doesn't mean that another Fire/Kin build can't outperform yours.
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LOL. Well they they have their perfect build. Which does nothing for me. Because thats their choice on what is perfect for them.
Get what I mean jellybean?
GG to people over reacting to P_P putting a build in the guide section. Seriously though people don't you all have something better to do than sit here and ridicule P_P for an innocent mistake? It's not like he titled his post guide to fire/kin's. Nice build P_P mine is very similar. Also I would really like to see you run demon farm in 8 minutes cause I don't think that is possible, but maybe I overlooked something.
You missed the lolstealthedit. Originally it was a paltry list that basically said to PUT PRPLS IN POWRS PLZ.
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Now P_P I just saw your last post before it was changed and personally I didnt like it. Saying "Cry Moar Please" is just a way to show your age. You are by all means too cocky in all your post basically saying you are better then everyone. Your build is NOT perfect nor is it a typical example of a Fire-Kin. You posted this guide so it could get critiqued and thats what all are doing. Take the advice and alter you guide a bit, because honestly this isnt even a guide. You are missing power pools still. Mids isnt too hard to Download to show statistics. But that all I have to say.
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Thats the thing, I think its perfect and thats all that matters to me. I didnt post it to be critiqued. I posted it because some people asked me to.
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While it's nice you posted your build for those who asked, to think that putting it out in a public forum was going to automatically let everyone know they were NOT supposed to critique it is pretty naïve. Personally if I ever put a build out here I'd be surprised if it DIDN'T get commented on in some way.
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Cry Moar Plz ? Im 31.. and?
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Normally I don't stoop to this level but in your case I'll make an exception. I frankly find it very hard to believe you are chronologically 31 years old. The general tone of your egocentric posts as well as your nuggets of gold like "Cry Moar Plz?" and "Get what I mean jellybean?" would have seriously led me to believe you were maybe 12 or 14 at best. I'm probably not the smartest or most mature person my age I know, but at least I don't write like a young teenager anymore because it's been quite a while since I was one of those.
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I am not missing anything for a farm build. There is absolutely nothing else needed for this build. I could put Armegeddon in Hot feet. Thats about it.
Its not a guide. Its a Build. My build. If other people wanna do the same build, then thats cool. If not.. thats on them. I saw some guy today that had a fire kin and all sorts of powers that were IMO worthless. But hey... If he wants to farm maps and it take him 45 minutes to get through it.. so be it. Takes me about 10-15 minutes to farm either the family mission or the demon mission. Solo set to 6.
I dont say I am better than anyone. That is how people interpret my posts. That is not my problem. For me, everyone here is posting saying they are better than me.. Thats why everyone feels the need to constantly put me down or put me in my place.
My place is at the top of the world. In MY HOUSE. I am no where in your house, or anyone elses. Just my house. And in MY HOUSE I INTEND ON BEING THE BEST.
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I'm quite sure you DO have the best Fire/Kin build in YOUR HOUSE. No argument there. But as we constantly have to remind you when you post on these forums you must expect some informed responses to what you write at any time.
People don't feel the need to constantly put you down or put you in your place for its own sake. You just have an amazing ability to rub virtually everyone the wrong way with your written word concerning almost any subject you post about here. I honestly don't know how you manage it sometimes.
If your goal was to be able to endlessly solo farm the family/demon missions in 10 minutes set for a team of 6 then almost any current Fire/Kin build loaded up with Purple IOs could probably handle it. I don't really find your achievement here all that spectacular in the least. There's nothing magical or clever about running around with this game's equivalent of a FotM nuclear bomb build-wise and think that it couldn't do what you are doing with it.
Just keep digging that hole...
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I rub everyone the wrong way because they are so easy to bug. 
My age doesnt really matter I dont give a [censored] what age you think I am. As you dont matter to me. I answer you because you always seem fit to pop into a thread and be yourself..
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I rub everyone the wrong way because they are so easy to bug.
My age doesnt really matter I dont give a [censored] what age you think I am. As you dont matter to me. I answer you because you always seem fit to pop into a thread and be yourself..
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Logical, relevant, reasonable, patient, able to offer constructive criticism, etc.?
Yes I'll always post as myself.
Guilty as charged. 
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I'm uncertain as to the benefits of Siphon Speed+Super Speed+Swift, seeing as Super Speed alone will let you hit the run cap. On the other hand, there's very little vertical movement without temp powers.
Siphon Speed's nice for the slow effect, but Hot Feet can do the same. Siphon Speed's run boost, however, does seem to make Super Speed a bit redundant; the Stealth effect is decent enough from SS, but there's nothing like Steamy Mist to stack it with; does it have Celerity +Stealth?
For vertical movement coupled with any of the run speed powers, why not pick IR? It's superjump, can get by with just one slot (or two, if you want to put in Unbounded Leap +Jump and +Stealth), and doesn't really need a recharge.
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Onyl one thing...Siphon speed does +recharge and stacked 2-3 times it can be quite helpful. Other then that I agree with everything.