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All kidding aside, it was just a joke.
I wouldn't have said it if I thought anyone would react badly. I've been here 3+ years, we joke around all the time, *I* joke around all the time... so I figured it was safe.
Just goes to show one never knows where someone else might have their own personal landmines, but I honestly think anyone who's read more than half a dozen posts by either me or Soul Train should be able to tell when we're kidding around.
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Unfortunately, Ironik, humour has been used for decades to cover up an inability to take responsibility for communication or action that is unacceptable by our ever evolving cultural and civilization's standards.
Humour that is directed at self is usually funny, for that is entirely your own domain.
Sexism can be funny when delivered by a comedian in a specific environment where everyone there has given an implicit consent to be exposed to certain types of humour.
A very well known coh personality such as TA coming out and showing immense courage and integrity is not necessarily the ideal breeding ground for sexist humour so maybe you should choose your audience with more discretion.
It is easy to be offensive or inappropriate and then write it off as other people not being able to 'take a joke, but that does not absolve you from taking responsilibity for your own typing.
Writing in the forum is the only way we can see each other. We only have our words to communicate who we are. Maybe if we were all sitting around a table with a beer or drink of choice we would be able to communicate with body language and tone as well as words. but as this is all we have, it is disingenuous to accuse another of a humour deficit instead of the simple and humble act of apology.
I salute Soul for his decorous and courteous acknowledgement. It was nobly done.
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I guess I must've missed something. I thought he just said he decided not to buy so much art from now on.
I'm honestly sorry if I inadvertantly pushed one of your hot-topic buttons; I certainly didn't mean to, and I apologize.
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I guess I must've missed something. I thought he just said he decided not to buy so much art from now on.
I'm honestly sorry if I inadvertantly pushed one of your hot-topic buttons; I certainly didn't mean to, and I apologize.
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I'd probably allow for the fact that someone's significant other might be privvy to a subtext that isn't evident in the OP. That said, it does seem a little...well...much...considering the topic unless he's planning to do great, grand, and noble things with the money he'll be saving. And that could be the case...since I believe the amount he spent on art was quite significant.
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Aww well as long as you stay around. I didn't come back to lose one of my best buddies. keep in touch. my in game name is @Daemon Darkthorn
Mkay, I'ma say this, and then I'ma leave.
Lets all knock off the smacking each other around ok?
Ironik - while I don't think many people believed you were expressing a genuine opinion, it really was in kinda poor taste; I don't mean that to be hard on you, but its true. Over the internet, it's utterly impossible to determine intent, as such, ones words, and ones words alone are what they are judged on. Thus the same sentence, read by two different individuals, will sound quite different.
Further - I think you're underestimating TA's problem. Situations like this are rarely as cut and dried as they initially appear - and while most people don't know it, one can be addicted (quite literally) to almost anything. In this respect, I think that's what's being dealt with here. Surely it's not as severe as say, an alchohol problem, but nevertheless, taking care of one's personal issues is difficult, and when its a personal issue that happens to have broad scope, it is more difficult as it affects more people than oneself.
On the flipside, Sassy, I understand completely why you'd take offense - but it is helpful, as much as possible, to try to discern intent before nailing someone over it. I don't think it's wrong of you to want to feel respected, and its very true that under the guise of 'humor', many cruel things have been said. "Humor" can be an excuse as much as anything.
Regardless though, it's best not to assume nefarious intent; as such an assumption will, more often than not, land one in trouble; as things are rarely as bad as they initially seem. Don't take crap - certainly not, but try to hold the hammer back a bit and examine things closely before swinging, lest you break something you may regret breaking later.
I know I just got back, and I really don't wanna piss anyone off; but I also think that this is an important time for TA, and I'd really rather not have that interfered with over a case of misunderstanding. Hopefully no one's gonna hate me for saying things this way, but sometimes I just gotta say what I gotta say.
Alright, I'm off my soap box now.
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Mist - your post is articulate and well thought out and thank you.
Yes it is hard to interpret intent so I generally stick to holding back "the hammer". Blatent sexism or comments that demean another's intent or ability for self government are hard to 'disguise' - even with the faint wiff of humour and claims to be 'the good guy'.
I think my posts through pretty carefully and have re-read them in order to clarify my own intent and severity. I stand by my words - there is a time and place for it and I believe this was not the time or place.
The one comment "it's always a woman" was funny .... but when it started to gather momentum it became crass.
I am very independant and intelligent and I have no problem standing up for what I believe.
..... and thank you for your perspective and peace-making. Have you considered employment with the UN? 
Thankfully no one has yet commented on my pathetic attempt to make one joke even funnier. All this back and forth discussion has me rethinking the whole thing. 
Well, I thought it was funny anyway. Just the thought of TA getting smacked upside the head for having spent all his money on art was amusing at the time. 
After all of this commentary I will happily take back my playful editing and refrain from any more playfulness on my part if it is requested. 
Someone should totally smack me on the head :P
And then get me some art! :P
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And then get me some art! :P
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*Smacks Rowr...*
... >.> Does this mean I get to draw boobies? <,< *Kidding <,< <-- horrible horrible person <T.T>*
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Boobies? Where?
Goodbye, I guess.
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I guess I must've missed something. I thought he just said he decided not to buy so much art from now on.
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I'd probably allow for the fact that someone's significant other might be privvy to a subtext that isn't evident in the OP. That said, it does seem a little...well...much...considering the topic unless he's planning to do great, grand, and noble things with the money he'll be saving. And that could be the case...since I believe the amount he spent on art was quite significant.
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As much as it would be totally cool for TA to do that... he's living in California now.
Trust me, every CENT he has will be put to use paying the bills. Cali's beautiful, but it will suck you dry if you aren't careful.
And yes, I know this from personal experience.
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As much as it would be totally cool for TA to do that... he's living in California now.
Trust me, every CENT he has will be put to use paying the bills. Cali's beautiful, but it will suck you dry if you aren't careful.
And yes, I know this from personal experience.
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I've lived in So Cal for 13 years. Sure, rent and mortgages are higher, car insurance is a nightmare, and gasoline prices make you want to curl up and cry for Mommy but I also earn about twice as much as I would living in most other states. It's not that bad.
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And then get me some art! :P
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*SMACK!!!*
*hands Rowr a colouring book*
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As much as it would be totally cool for TA to do that... he's living in California now.
Trust me, every CENT he has will be put to use paying the bills. Cali's beautiful, but it will suck you dry if you aren't careful.
And yes, I know this from personal experience.
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I've lived in So Cal for 13 years. Sure, rent and mortgages are higher, car insurance is a nightmare, and gasoline prices make you want to curl up and cry for Mommy but I also earn about twice as much as I would living in most other states. It's not that bad.
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God help you if you get injured though. Hospital bills here are rediculously high.
Goodbye, I guess.
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As much as it would be totally cool for TA to do that... he's living in California now.
Trust me, every CENT he has will be put to use paying the bills. Cali's beautiful, but it will suck you dry if you aren't careful.
And yes, I know this from personal experience.
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I've lived in So Cal for 13 years. Sure, rent and mortgages are higher, car insurance is a nightmare, and gasoline prices make you want to curl up and cry for Mommy but I also earn about twice as much as I would living in most other states. It's not that bad.
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God help you if you get injured though. Hospital bills here are rediculously high.
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Having experienced semi-significant heathcare costs in four different states, I have to say that is the case in all of them. It's also why I make sure I have good insurance...which is another thing that's just a li'l more expensive here in California. Add that to my list above. 
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It's a good thing you got out when you did TA. I'll soon be open for commissions, but wouldn't want to enable you
Your gallery truly is an inspiration, and it did contribute to getting me back into painting. Thanks for that.