yep the days of going to warburg right after a RSF are over now.. :-(
exploits are fun.
The Kronos has a hold n00b!
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yep the days of going to warburg right after a RSF are over now.. :-(
exploits are fun.
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That they are.
Plus there's just the efficiency of ending the RSF in Warburg because now you need nukes anyway 
Meddling Devs 
debuffs are stronger overall on AVs now, just not regen.... damage was not a problem at most RSFs.
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...because now you need nukes anyway
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Why do you need them now? (Sorry, I haven't been to test.)
~Missi
http://tinyurl.com/yhy333s
Miss Informed in 2016! She can't be worse than all those other guys!
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...because now you need nukes anyway
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Why do you need them now? (Sorry, I haven't been to test.)
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You dont... well... I dont... You wont either if you come with me.
they're just whining.
They call me the Super-Genius of Justice for a reason... but they forgot what it was.
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Zero Tolerance: Get your towels ready.
carebears win again /rolls eyes
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carebears win again /rolls eyes
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Is that directed at me, because needing nukes for the rsf is a joke, and it's one less trip to the pvp zone for us?
They call me the Super-Genius of Justice for a reason... but they forgot what it was.
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Zero Tolerance: Get your towels ready.
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...because now you need nukes anyway
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Why do you need them now? (Sorry, I haven't been to test.)
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Well they aren't "needed" but in the last mission of the RSF prepping the team + shivans with a bio nuke or two before engaging the sig heroes and dropping a chem nuke or two on them after the aggro brute has gathered them lets you defeat the lot of them in under maybe 90 seconds.
Since it takes all of ten minutes to get a Warburg nuke, and you are going to Warburg after the RSF, then may as well use that trip you make anyway to grab more nukes.
Of course I like PvP, so I regard a trip to Warburg as "a good thing".
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carebears win again /rolls eyes
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Is that directed at me, because needing nukes for the rsf is a joke, and it's one less trip to the pvp zone for us?
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He said Carebears, plural. Meaning you and all the others.
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carebears win again /rolls eyes
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Is that directed at me, because needing nukes for the rsf is a joke, and it's one less trip to the pvp zone for us?
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He said Carebears, plural. Meaning you and all the others.
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So because they fixed an exploit that made PvE easier the rest of us are carebears, simply because it means that we're no longer required to go to Warburg?
I'm starting to get a little warm under my collar with this nonsense.
Brother of Markus
The Lord of Fire and Pain
The Legendary Living Hellfire
Fight my brute!
Responding to something like that really isn't worth your time. IMHO
Nukes are kinda overated anyways. I did a raid with Daikon and a few of the Misfits recently that was the hallmark of efficiency. The final AVs dropped in 47 seconds. (and yes I always start a timer at the time of attack bevause it helps me keep track of buffs.)
All that, without any nukes whatsoever. We did have 6 corruptors, all of them with vengence however, and I suppose the 8 shivans helped a bit...but still. Nukes are never necessary, they just are another part of the RSF equation that can speed up the process.
I am fine with the fix of the exploit. I've never done it, and do not feel that I need to level 52 Hamis which provide any of my toons with an additional 1.5% something to feel "maxed" out. I'm not bitter or jealous, but it's just not my cup of tea. Just like spamming a /stuck macro to avoid being teleported in PvP isn't my cup of tea, yet I know many who drink heartily from that cup.
On another note, While I appreciate that heroes have gotten an RSF equivalent, I also would be slightly disengenuous if I said that I think the devs have made anything more equal.
If anything, the RSF is a broken, laughable comparison to the STF. The Statesman Task force is like a polished Mirror, of course the developers admited to having learned from their mistakes with the RSF in creating the hero version. My only point of contention is thus. If they admit to making the RSF mistake riddled and prone to AT exclusion, amidst other glaring problems, when (not if) are they planning on correcting those self-admitted mistakes?
My heroes are rejoicing at the news of the Statesman Task Force, but don't get me wrong, the RSF needs to be brought up to parity with the STF as soon as its feasible. Scratch that, it needs to be done before the developers see it as feasible, it needs to be done about a year ahead of that. In non-dev chronology, that means within the next 2 issues. Preferably in I10.
*does the carebear stare*
*Is confused about how a post about an exploit in the reward system turned into an argument over nukes, PvE vs PvP, and carebars*
Maybe I'm tired, but I understand the mechanics behind most of what people are talking about and I'm still going "huh?"
I think the whine is that because there is nobody usually in the PvP zones because PvP blows chunks and because the only time people go into places like Warburg is to get the nukes... and very little else, usually, that removing this part of the RSF will see fewer people in the zone and therefore the hardcore PvP bullies will have fewer unsuspecting PvEers to gank.
Brother of Markus
The Lord of Fire and Pain
The Legendary Living Hellfire
Fight my brute!
Oh dear, I hope this doesn't turn into a battle between the Carebears and the Carebear Cousins. Anyone who's seen Robot Chicken knows how that ends! 
*dodges upcoming flames*
(I would've posted a linkie to the YouTube video, but I'm quite confident that it would've been mod-smacked.)
I'm surprised anyone is surprised by this. I'll also be surprised when you guys are surprised when the devs run a script that sets all the level 51, 52, and 53 HOs to level 50.
I'm really surprised that I'm still surprised by all of your surprise at painfully obvious things though.
Formerly "Back Alley Brawler"
I'm mostly just confused.
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Oh dear, I hope this doesn't turn into a battle between the Carebears and the Carebear Cousins. Anyone who's seen Robot Chicken knows how that ends!
*dodges upcoming flames*
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I just want a temp power that is an cone placate called CB stare. I think it would be hilarious, the FX could be a rainbow affect in the area of the cone.
Personally, I dislike temp powers being more useful than your primary and secondary. Nukes and shivans are over powered to me. Although, summoning temp powers are cool, making them repeatable and the easiest way to beat EBs solo is kinda sad.
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Personally, I dislike temp powers being more useful than your primary and secondary. Nukes and shivans are over powered to me. Although, summoning temp powers are cool, making them repeatable and the easiest way to beat EBs solo is kinda sad.
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jeeeeez is this the random thought thread??! 
cheese is good.
The Kronos has a hold n00b!
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Personally, I dislike temp powers being more useful than your primary and secondary. Nukes and shivans are over powered to me. Although, summoning temp powers are cool, making them repeatable and the easiest way to beat EBs solo is kinda sad.
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Shivan's I'd agree with. They have too many charges and/or they're too power as well as being too readily/easily available.
Nukes however, take a bit of work and they're only one shot. I don't have so much of a problem with them.
Formerly "Back Alley Brawler"
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Oh dear, I hope this doesn't turn into a battle between the Carebears and the Carebear Cousins. Anyone who's seen Robot Chicken knows how that ends!
*dodges upcoming flames*
(I would've posted a linkie to the YouTube video, but I'm quite confident that it would've been mod-smacked.)
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I just want a temp power that is an cone placate called CB stare. I think it would be hilarious, the FX could be a rainbow affect in the area of the cone.
Personally, I dislike temp powers being more useful than your primary and secondary. Nukes and shivans are over powered to me. Although, summoning temp powers are cool, making them repeatable and the easiest way to beat EBs solo is kinda sad.
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Well, for the record the Nuclear Blast nuke, used on a tight grouping of PC heroes in PvP, is remarkably dissapointing.
Or so I've been told <.<
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The red names are in our zones killing our peoples
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
OK, maybe "a lot" is an exaggeration, but the topic of people using the exemplar thing to get level 52 Hamidon Enhancers comes up as a sore point from time to time.
From the Issue 9 Test Server patch notes for today (4/5):
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So we won't have to worry about people doing this in the new raid (or SF/TF).
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA