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Good reference, but I thought ... aren't HOs bugged/coded in such a way that tohit/def buff enhancers and tohit/def debuff enhancers are interchangeable? So that, for instance, you can put a Cytoskeleton into Radiation Infection on the basis of it taking endurance reducers and then the "buff" effect actually enhances the debuffs of the powers? Or did that get fixed? Or did I get that whole thing wrong?
Your Point?
Some are set up that way, and posted in the guide that they work - but I want to have the guide mostly set so that people don't have to respec out of things later when/if that gets fixed. I consider it a bug, and knowingly using a Bug to your benefit isn't something I want in a Guide.
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"The tip of a shoelace is called an aglet, its true purpose is sinister." The Question
Well my point is, your guide is not as useful as it could have been. It doesn't reflect what actually works, even with disclaimers that they may change sometime. (Though you DID make a comment like that about Lysosomes and Parry, so right there you're not being consistent with it.)
My impression from what the devs have said is changing those results is pretty impossible without recoding the whole engine so I don't think it's a bug in the usual sense of having an expectation to change soon. There are a few things in there that folks might not think of - for instance Microfilament in Swift boosting both Run and Fly speed - but beyond that, most things are pretty straightforward. I appreciate you put a lot of work into this, but I think it could be better.
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Good reference, but I thought ... aren't HOs bugged/coded in such a way that tohit/def buff enhancers and tohit/def debuff enhancers are interchangeable? So that, for instance, you can put a Cytoskeleton into Radiation Infection on the basis of it taking endurance reducers and then the "buff" effect actually enhances the debuffs of the powers? Or did that get fixed? Or did I get that whole thing wrong?
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glad you brought that up, I need to rememeber that as I'd be happy to slot with that in mind now and respec em out later...
great guide btw
Presumably a Golgi would enhance the heal of Spectral Wounds and Phantom Army (although that wouldn't be very useful).
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My comments
<ul type="square">Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:[/list]Also works as a Damage [u]Resistance[u] buff and Range. Very useful in powers like Increase Density or the Sonic Resonance shields.
<ul type="square">Microfilament Exposure Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)[/list]Is this confirmed? The little pop-up window in-game freaks out and shows me a bunch of slow numbers. If this is true, wouldnt it work in any slow power? Things like Snow Storm would benefit greatly from this.
<ul type="square">Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:[/list]A quick note on these two just as damage and damage resistance are interchangeable, so are these two HOs. But while a Cyto only does a 20% defense adjustment, the Enzyme does a 33.3% defense adjustment (I think both do 33.3% ToHit adjustments). Im not sure if the game mechanics allow for the full 33.3% defense, but its definitely better than a Cyto.
<ul type="square">Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)[/list]I cant say Ive seen it, but Ive heard from reliable people that Membranes do increase the recharge of Vengeance.
There are quite a few powers that display a slow boost in error; I can't remember off the top of my head if the accuracy or the recharge enhancement value gets copied into slow as well. That aside though, if Microfilament DID affect speed debuffs (and following this logic it should) you could put it in powers like Lingering Radiation, Tar Patch; or almost any gravity hold as they all have a slow effect -- Crushing Field would benefit from it especially. I've got a micro I haven't slotted. If I have time, I'll copy to test and experiment.
My WS shows lots of slow enhancement in the tool tips that should be recharge. Since it does not display recharge at all, I'm assuming this is a text error, not an actual enhancement of slows. It could be though, I haven't tested.
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I have a question... would a Microfilament work in Sprint?
A Micro would work in sprint; it wouldn't reduce end but it would give a buff to both run and fly. However, it'd be a small one because sprint doesn't give a very big boost in the first place.
I went on test and removed a recharge SO from Lingering Radiation. Currently, the recharge amount lists itself as a Slow %. I put in the microfilament and the old Slow % went down, but new entries that also listed Slow 33% appeared.
I then did the same thing with Crushing Field; I had 2 accuracy and 1 endurance reduction SO. I replaced an accuracy with a Micro and the new screen indicated that it would get another +33% end reduction; -33% accuracy; and +33% Slow and +33% Slow and +33% Slow (maybe 3 entries for run/fly/jump?).
Doing some simple observations - basically kiting a Warhulk around the parking lot next to the PI ferry - it looked like it did increase the slow effect of those two powers by a noticeable amount. Someone else should do some testing to be sure but ... based on this, I think a Microfilament is usable in all 4 of Gravity Control's holds and immobilizes; Radiation's Lingering Radiation and probably accelerate metabolism (though again, a run/fly speed buff there is pretty minimal); and Dark Miasma's Tar Patch.
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A Micro would work in sprint; it wouldn't reduce end but it would give a buff to both run and fly. However, it'd be a small one because sprint doesn't give a very big boost in the first place.
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You mean swift, not sprint. It is usable in Sprint too, of course, but that gives a +run and +jump buff while also reducing end cost.
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Well my point is, your guide is not as useful as it could have been. It doesn't reflect what actually works, even with disclaimers that they may change sometime. (Though you DID make a comment like that about Lysosomes and Parry, so right there you're not being consistent with it.)
My impression from what the devs have said is changing those results is pretty impossible without recoding the whole engine so I don't think it's a bug in the usual sense of having an expectation to change soon. There are a few things in there that folks might not think of - for instance Microfilament in Swift boosting both Run and Fly speed - but beyond that, most things are pretty straightforward. I appreciate you put a lot of work into this, but I think it could be better.
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There are many things that seem 'obvious' to you, but to others it is not. I see people in the Hive all the time, asking "What can be used where" "Where can I use This?". Based on that, I decided to put together this list.
I will Not Post Bug Exploits. Incorrect Usage of the HO's are Bug Exploits, in my opinion. Do I mention them? Yes, but I'm not going to go out of my way to list every use of something that should NOT in fact beused that way.
Don't like it? By all means, don't use it. Your 'Feedback' isn't helpful, so it's not wanted. Bye Bye now.
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"The tip of a shoelace is called an aglet, its true purpose is sinister." The Question
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Presumably a Golgi would enhance the heal of Spectral Wounds and Phantom Army (although that wouldn't be very useful).
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If those powers accept +Heal and +End Red, then I'd list them. Please, pleople ... stop listing 'guesses' and 'I hear that...'. It's really not useful.
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"The tip of a shoelace is called an aglet, its true purpose is sinister." The Question
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My comments
<ul type="square">Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:[/list]Also works as a Damage [u]Resistance[u] buff and Range. Very useful in powers like Increase Density or the Sonic Resonance shields.
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Since WHEN is this true? Damage Enhancers of ALL typpes would be used that way, then. Ribo's would work in those shields, but there is NO way I'm adding this information.
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<ul type="square">Microfilament Exposure Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)[/list]Is this confirmed? The little pop-up window in-game freaks out and shows me a bunch of slow numbers. If this is true, wouldnt it work in any slow power? Things like Snow Storm would benefit greatly from this.
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I have received no confirmation. I know that Mez enhancers do not affect Slows. It's possible that the Movement enhancers do, but I'm not adding them without testing. Siphon speed is accurate - it can use both Run Speen enhancers and End reducers, so can use both effects. Whether it boosts the Slow effects I can't say.
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<ul type="square">Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)[/list]I cant say Ive seen it, but Ive heard from reliable people that Membranes do increase the recharge of Vengeance.
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I've heard it's true also, but 'Hearing' something is not 'Testing' it. There's no way of knowing whether those people who 'feel' it's true are correct.
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"The tip of a shoelace is called an aglet, its true purpose is sinister." The Question
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My comments
<ul type="square">Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:[/list]Also works as a Damage [u]Resistance[u] buff and Range. Very useful in powers like Increase Density or the Sonic Resonance shields.
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Since WHEN is this true? Damage Enhancers of ALL typpes would be used that way, then. Ribo's would work in those shields, but there is NO way I'm adding this information.
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I understand if you feel these are cheats and don't want to include them, but they do work. IF you could add a Damage enhancement to a shield, you'd get the same results. The HO's work because the Range portion is an acceptable SO for them.
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<ul type="square">Microfilament Exposure Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)[/list]Is this confirmed? The little pop-up window in-game freaks out and shows me a bunch of slow numbers. If this is true, wouldnt it work in any slow power? Things like Snow Storm would benefit greatly from this.
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I have received no confirmation. I know that Mez enhancers do not affect Slows. It's possible that the Movement enhancers do, but I'm not adding them without testing. Siphon speed is accurate - it can use both Run Speen enhancers and End reducers, so can use both effects. Whether it boosts the Slow effects I can't say.
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Siphon Speed does not accept Run Speed enhancements (despite what Sherk's hero builder may say). It only accepts Acc, EndRdx, Recharge, Range, and Slow. Your list implies it works as a slow, but as you say, "'Hearing' something is not 'Testing' it."
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<ul type="square">Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)[/list]I cant say Ive seen it, but Ive heard from reliable people that Membranes do increase the recharge of Vengeance.
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I've heard it's true also, but 'Hearing' something is not 'Testing' it. There's no way of knowing whether those people who 'feel' it's true are correct.
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Tested it yesterday and it's true, but I would think that you'd see this as an exploit since it's not supposed to accept recharge enhancements.
It may be a side benefit - but Vengeance still uses the other portions of the HO, so it gets listed.
Maybe I'll let this thread die, and start a new thread without all this ungrateful yammering in it.
People - if you don't like the Guide? Don't Frakkin Post, and don't frakkin read it. Just ignore it.
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"The tip of a shoelace is called an aglet, its true purpose is sinister." The Question
Honestly I was trying to help. I'll keep my ungrateful yammering out of your next post.
Now in a New, Shorter Thread, by Request (Hi Stargeek!).
Some notes to keep in mind:
-This is a 'What You Can Slot Where' Guide, not a 'You Should Slot This Way' Guide. I will note if something is not recommended, but as always, it is Your Choice.
-If you have any Questions, Suggestions, etc, post them.. but ONLY post your actual experience, not "I hear that ..."
-Please - keep the slotting debates to a minimum. This is not the place. If it *CAN* be slotted, even to minor effect, it can be on the list.
Now, on to the List:
Uplink_OoT did a great job a while back, compiling a list of Hamidon Enhancements. What I'd like to do is put together a list of which powers the more 'Exotic' HO's can help. I want to be able to tell people "'X' HO affects these powers ...". Help fill in the list with whatever you can.
Easy ones:
Nucleolus Exposure - Damage and Accuracy:
-Too many to list. If you dont know what can use this, you shouldnt have bought the account. :-)
Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:
-See above. (Note - the range portion of some melee attacks cannot be increased, even though they may affect a larger than normal range. Be sure the power normally accepts Range + Damage enhancements before slotting this)
Ribosome Exposure - Increase Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction:
-All Power Pools Tough
-APP Blaster Cold Mastery Frozen Armor
-APP - Blaster - Electrical Mastery Charged Armor
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Temporary Invulnerability, Force of Nature
-APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery Fire Shield
-APP - Controller - Fire Mastery Fire Shield
-APP Controller Ice Mastery - Frozen Armor (Just +Resist to Cold, not preferred slotting)
-APP Controller Primal Forces Mastery - Temp Invul
-APP Controller Psionic Mastery - Mind over Body
-APP Defender Dark Mastery Dark Embrace
-APP Defender Electricity Mastery - Charged Armor
-APP Defender Power Mastery - Temp Invul
-APP Defender Psychic Mastery Mind over Body
-Defender/Controller - Kinetics - Increase Density
-Defender/Controller - Sonic Resonance - Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Sonic Dispersion
-Defender/Controller - Storm - Steamy Mist
-Defender Dark - Shadowfall
-Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - Shining Shield, Thermal Shield, Quantum Shield, White Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste), Light Form
-Scrapper Dark Armor Murky Cloud, Obsidian Shield, Dark Embrace
-Tank/Scrapper Invulnerability Temporary Invulnerability, Unyielding, Unstoppable
-Tank Stone Armor Brimstone Armor, Granite Armor
-Warshade Secondary Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield, Penumbral Shield, Umbral Aura, Black Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste)
Microfilament Exposure Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction:
-All - Power Pools - Hover (Takes minimal end), Flight, Group Flight
-All - Power Pools - Speed, Super Speed
-All - Power Pools - Leaping, Combat Jump (Takes minimal End), Super Leap
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Speed Boost
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic Inertial Reduction
-Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)
-Peacebringer White Dwarf (Probably not the best place to put these, Dwarf has something akin to Combat Jumping) , Quantum Flight (There are reports that Q-Fly is already at the Fly Speed cap, in which case this enhancement would be useless) , Nova, Group Energy Flight
-Peacebringer Inherent powers - Energy Flight, Combat Flight
-Scrapper Super Reflexes Elude Not optimal slotting, but can use this.
-Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova (Probably not worth slotting Fly)
-Warshade Secondary Black Dwarf (Probably not worth slotting for this)
-There is a Debate as to whether you should slot these into Fitness -> Swift or Scrapper-> Super Reflexes-> Quickness. If you use Fly, you might benefit from Slotting these here, as they can serve as both Run Speed AND Fly Speed enhancers.
Golgi Exposure - Heal and Endurance Reduction:
-Anyone with a Medicine power pool Heal,
-Anyone with a 'heal self' power (Tanks/scrappers, PB, WS)
-Defenders/Controllers with a Heal power (Radiant aura, Twilight grasp, etc.)
-APP Controller Stone Mastery - Earth's Embrace
-Peacebringer - Glowing Touch, Essence Boost, Reform Essence
-Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - White Dwarf - White Dwarf Sublimation
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Dark Regeneration, Siphon Life
-Scrapper Regen Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing
-Tank Ice Armor Hoarfrost
-Tank/Scrapper Invulnerability Dull Pain
-Tank Stone Armor Rooted, Earths Embrace
-Warshade Essence Drain, Stygian Circle
-Warshade Secondary Black Dwarf Black Dwarf Drain
Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc .. but NOT knockback) . (In some cases, the damage is minor)
-APP Blaster Cold Mastery Flash Freeze (Damage minor, not preferred slotting)
-APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery - Char (Damage low, not preferred slotting), Rise of the Phoenix
-APP - Blaster Electrical Mastery Static Discharge, Shocking Bolt
-APP Blaster Munitions Mastery - Cryo Freeze Ray (Damage minor, not preferred slotting)
-APP Controller Stone Mastery - Fissure
-APP Defender Electricity Mastery - Electric Fence, Thunder Strike
-APP Defender Power Mastery - Total Focus
-APP Defender Psychic Mastery - Dominate
-APP Scrapper Body Mastery - Energy Torrent
-APP Scrapper Darkness Mastery Tenebrous Tentacles
-APP Tanker Arctic Mastery Chillblain
-APP Tanker Earth Mastery - Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stalagmites
-APP Tanker Pyre Mastery - Ring of Fire, Char
-Blasters/Tankers Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
-Blaster Archery Stunning Shot
-Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) (*May not be worth it)
-Blaster Ice (?) - freeze ray, bitter freeze ray (*damage is insignificant on freeze ray. Mez hami-os will not increase chance to stun, and will not increase mags of attacks in energy punch.)
-Blaster Ice Manipulation Chillblain
-Controller Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Volcanic Gasses
-Controller Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Jack Frost
-Controller Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire
-Controller Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Singularity
-Controller Illusion Control Blind
-Controller Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify
-Defender Dark Blast Tenebrous Tentacles
-Defender - Radiation Blast Cosmic Burst
-Defender Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
-Defender/Controller Storm Summoning - Tornado
-Scrapper Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient, but not really worth using because CS damage is so low), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
-Tank Energy Melee Energy Transfer, Barrage
-Tank Super Strength Jab, Knockout Blow
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast Incandescent Strike
-Warshade Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation (Damage is low for this one, so not considered optimal)
Endoplasm Exposure - Accuracy and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc, but NOT knockback)
-APP Blaster Cold Mastery Flash Freeze (Damage barely noticeable, not preferred slotting)
-APP - Blaster Electrical Mastery Shocking Bolt, EM Pulse
-APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery Char, Rise of the Phoenix
-APP Blaster Munitions Mastery - Cryo Freeze Ray, Sleep Grenade
-APP Controller Stone Mastery - Fissure
-APP Defender Dark Mastery Oppressive Gloom
-APP Defender Electricity Mastery - Electric Fence, Thunder Strike
-APP Defender Power Mastery - Total Focus
-APP Defender Psychic Mastery - Dominate, Mass Hypnosis,
-APP Scrapper Body Mastery - Energy Torrent
-APP Scrapper Darkness Mastery Tenebrous Tentacles, Petrifying Gaze
-APP Scrapper Weapon Mastery - Web Grenade
-APP Tanker Arctic Mastery Chillblain, Block of Ice
-APP Tanker Earth Mastery - Stone Prison, Salt Crystals, Fossilize, Stalagmites
-APP Tanker Pyre Mastery - Ring of Fire, Char
-Blaster Archery Stunning Shot
-Blaster/Defender Electrical Blast Tesla Cage
-Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) , Lightning Clap * (50% chance to Stun (mag 2) PBAoE) (*May not be worth it)
-Blaster Ice Manipulation Chillblain
-Blasters/Tankers Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
-Controller Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Salt Crystals, Volcanic Gasses
-Controller Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire, Cinders
-Controller Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field, Wormhole, Singularity
-Controller Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Shiver, Glacier, Jack Frost
-Controller Illusion Control Blind, Flash, Deceive, Spectral Terror
-Controller Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify, Confuse, Mass Hypnosis, Total Domination, Mass Confusion
-Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - EM Pulse
-Defender/Controller Storm Summoning - Thunderclap
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Ice Arrow, EM Pulse Arrow
-Defender Dark Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant, Petrifying Gaze
-Defender Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
-Defender - Radiation Blast Cosmic Burst
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast Pulsar, Incandescent Strike
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Touch of Fear
-Scrapper Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
-Tank Energy Melee Energy Transfer, Barrage
-Tank Super Strength Knockout Blow
-Warshade Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation, Inky Aspect
These next few can be tricky, and are the ones that need the most 'help'. Some might be GREAT for a few powers, but helpful in some that share two of the aspects of the HO. These are the ones MOST in use of some definition.
Lysosome Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Increases Accuracy:
-APP - Scrapper - Body Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
-APP Scrapper Darkness Mastery - Torrent, Dark Blast, Tenebrous Tentacles
-APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
-Blaster - Devices - Smoke Grenade Acc + To Hit Debuff
-Blaster Assault Rifle Burst - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
-Controller - Earth Control Earthquake - can use the ToHit + Def Debuff Portions (Some say this is not optimal slotting thats for you to decide.)
-Controller - Fire Control Smoke
-Controller - Mind Control Terrify
-Defender - Dark - Twilight Grasp, Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (acc + To hit Debuff)
-Defender - Dark Blast All powers except Dark Pit Accuracy + Tohit Debuff
-Defender - Radiation Blast - Neutrino Bolt, X-ray Beam, Irradiate, Electron Haze, Proton Volley, Cosmic Burst, Neutron Bomb, Atomic Blast
-Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses 2 of 3)
-Defender/Controller Sonic - Liquefy
-Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - ACC and foe DEF
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow - tohit debuff, accuracy
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow - defense debuff, accuracy
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Dawn Strike, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for Accuracy, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
-Scrapper - Broadsword All attacks except Parry - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
-Scrapper Dark Melee Nearly all attacks can use +ACC and foe ACC
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear (Though Endoplasm and Enzymes are the preferred options)
-Scrapper - Katana Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
-APP - Scrapper - Body Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
-APP Scrapper Darkness Mastery - Torrent, Dark Blast, Tenebrous Tentacles
-APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
-Controller - Earth Control Quicksand
-Controller - Fire Control Smoke
-Controller Mind Control Terrify
-Defender - Radiation Blast - Irradiate, Neutron Bomb,
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude* (*note - this could change someday if the Devs alter how buff/Debuff HO's are working)
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (under current bugged system only)
-Defender/Controller Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses all 3)
-Defender/Controller Sonic - Liquefy (-DEF, -ACC, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - (-DEF, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Hurricane - (-ACC, END redux)
-Defender/Control - Storm - Tornado - (DEF, END redux)
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow (tohit debuff, end reduction),
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction),
-Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Oil Slick Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction)
-Defender - Dark - Darkest Night (ToHit Debuff + End Reduc), Dark Servant
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for End Reduction, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
-Peacebringer Dwarf Form attack powers
-Peacebringer Nova Form Attack Powers
-Scrapper - Broadsword All attacks except Parry - can use the End Reduction + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear
-Scrapper - Katana Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the End Reduc + Def Debuff Portions
Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
-Any Aim/Buildup type power
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
-APP Controller Psionic Mastery - Indomitable Will
-APP Defender Dark Mastery Soul Drain
-APP Scrapper Body Mastery - Focused Accuracy (Def Buff, Recharge Reduc.)
-APP -- Tanker - Energy Mastery - Focused Accuracy (Def Buff, Recharge Reduc.)
-Controller - Illusion Control - Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility - Def buff, Recharge Reducer
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (note, some of these have very fast recharge times already, not Optimal)
-Scrapper Broadsword Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
-Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Soul Drain
-Scrapper - Dark Armor Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
-Scrapper - Katana Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and Increase attack rate
-Scrapper Martial Arts Focus Chi ToHit buff and Increase attack rate
-Scrapper Super Reflexes Elude Def Buff and Attack rate increase
-Tank Ice Armor Energy Absorption (Defense, Increase attack rate), Frozen Armor and Glacial Armor (Though very few people ever slot these for recharge, so this may not be the best choice)
-Tank Super Strength - Rage - uses ToHit buff and Recharge rate.
-Tank/Scrapper Invulnerability Invincibility (not optimal slotting, but can use)
-Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak
Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Maneuvers (uses 2 of 3)
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Tactics (uses 2 of 3)
-All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Can you put End cost reduction in it?)
-All - Power Pools Leaping Combat Jumping (Not Recommended, but possible)
--APP Scrapper Body Mastery - Focused Accuracy
-APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Focused Accuracy
-APP Blaster Cold Mastery Frozen Armor
-APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
-APP Controller Ice Mastery - Frozen Armor
-APP Controller Psionic Mastery - Indomitable Will
-APP Controller Stone Mastery - Rock Armor
-APP Defender Dark Mastery Soul Drain
-Controllers - Illusion Control Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility
-Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude Uses all 3
-Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble
-Defender/Controller Storm Summoning Steamy Mist (Defense bonus is small, but can be enhanced)
-Defender - Dark - Shadowfall Def Buff, End Red
-Peacebringer - Luminous Blast - Build up (not as useful as Membrane, but can be used here) , Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more) , Combat Flight (Though the End usage is so low this may be a waste of a Hami-O, depends on your specific usage and build, though)
-Scrapper Broadsword Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
-Scrapper - Dark Armor Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
-Scrapper - Katana Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and End Reduc
-Scrapper Martial Arts Focus Chi ToHit buff and End Reduc (Not optimal slotting, though, as power is not high in End usage)
-Scrapper Super Reflexes Focused Fighting, Focused senses Def Buff, End Red
-Scrapper Super Reflexes Evasion Def Buff, End Red
-Tank/Scrapper - Invulnerability - Invincibility (uses all 3)
-Tank Earth Armor - Rock Armor, Crystal Armor, Minerals, Granite Armor (all def buff/end red)
-Tank Ice Armor Frozen Armor, Glacial Armor (Def Buff, End Reduc)
-Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more.)
-Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak (does not use much end, slotting this is your decision)
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Removed:
Removed HOs with + ACC from -Defender/Control - Storm Hurricane and -Defender/Control - Storm Tornado (Powers are Autohit in PvE, so do not need accuracy. Are they Autohit in PvP? Do I need to put them back in as PvP slotting only?)
(Removed from Enzyme) -Controller - Illusion Control Spectral Terror (Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements.)
*As Always, this is a Work in Progress. Questions? Comments? Additions? Reply, and I'll get them in, or we'll talk about them at least.
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