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Immobile -> -SPD.
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That would be awesome. Although then you'd probably see complaints that dominators are better (debuff) defenders than defenders are.
Why do you feel compeled to be consistently rude, Vidszhite??
I think many of you are focusing on pvp and neglecting Pve in some respects. Domi's are a support AT y'all. Yes, a bit underpowered but I played today for about 6 hours using 3 different lvl 40 dom's. Overall, if this is what we get it's better than what we had before unless you live to pvp.
Saddens me to read that people are going to abandon their dom's because they are unhappy with the changes.
Ironically ? Noone whohas posted that sentiment has a dom over lvl 37. Guess what?
Sometimes things take work. The dev's are on the right track. Personally, I think the changes made dom's easily more soloable.It's all in what you want guys and up to now according to you it's all DOOOOOM!.
IF YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY A DOM
THEN DON'T PLAY ONE.
Thank you to all of the people actively testing and posting in this thread. You know who you are aside from all the naysayers and doombringers.
On a testing note? Did anyone notice that dom once built but not yet activated has a longer sustainable duration?By that I mean i can build my dom to an arbitrary %, Ill say 70, and hold it there much longer than in 6. Yes it still drops a little but overall its much easier to put domination on 'hold". Easily long enough for an mm to set up or what have you. That was a complaint said again and again in these forums.
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This does not match my experience in I6, nor does it match the early I7 reports coming from Fishw0rk.
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It sure as hell matches mine. If I go on to the field as a Dom, I'm a target. I'm an EASY target. I can only hope to build up Domination if I am to stand a chance of not sucking for a few minutes; but the Domination bar drops to zero on death, so a simple two-shot from any of the plentiful scrapp0rz in RV is enough to scotch that.
Doms are the only AT to have a qualifying round in PvP. Survive long enough and attack often enough to build up Domination, and you might have a chance.
They are the only AT to have a mediocre primary and a mediocre secondary. Other ATs have inherent powers as a bonus; Dominators are the only AT to DEPEND on their Inherent power.
We need some serious fixing, and this was sadly not it.
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I readily admit to having a bad case of diarrhea of the keyboard, so rather than ramble on and on, I'll just quote L_S here. She's summed up my feelings about it nicely, as usual. The key word in that is "mediocre", which is what Doms by and large are, no matter their level.
It's sad. Doms should strike fear into the heart of the biggest badassest Scrapper or Tank (or Brute) on the field.
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Why do you feel compeled to be consistently rude, Vidszhite??
I think many of you are focusing on pvp and neglecting Pve in some respects. Domi's are a support AT y'all. Yes, a bit underpowered but I played today for about 6 hours using 3 different lvl 40 dom's. Overall, if this is what we get it's better than what we had before unless you live to pvp.
Saddens me to read that people are going to abandon their dom's because they are unhappy with the changes.
Ironically ? Noone whohas posted that sentiment has a dom over lvl 37. Guess what?
Sometimes things take work. The dev's are on the right track. Personally, I think the changes made dom's easily more soloable.It's all in what you want guys and up to now according to you it's all DOOOOOM!.
IF YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY A DOM
THEN DON'T PLAY ONE.
Thank you to all of the people actively testing and posting in this thread. You know who you are aside from all the naysayers and doombringers.
On a testing note? Did anyone notice that dom once built but not yet activated has a longer sustainable duration?By that I mean i can build my dom to an arbitrary %, Ill say 70, and hold it there much longer than in 6. Yes it still drops a little but overall its much easier to put domination on 'hold". Easily long enough for an mm to set up or what have you. That was a complaint said again and again in these forums.
Again?Kudo's to all of you who are willing to stick it out and continue to try to find the rays of sunshine amidst the storm clouds
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Who said I don't like playing a Dom? I LOVE playing my Dom, I just think we could use some buffs. And really, since we don't get mez protection in PvP, we'd still control less effectively than a Tanker or a Scrapper without our breakfrees.
_Ilr_ is the guy abandoning his Dom, I'm never quitting my Dom, not even if they remove the AT from the game. I'll make a character and in his origin story it will SAY he is a Dom. With the Confuse changes, I've never felt more evil and powerful in PvE. 
I guess I have just learned the people who whine the loudest get the boost. Just look at toggle droppers.
EDIT: One minor note, I...uh...I can't quite understand a word you're saying. Your post is a bit tough to read, sorry ^^;
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Saddens me to read that people are going to abandon their dom's because they are unhappy with the changes.
Ironically ? Noone whohas posted that sentiment has a dom over lvl 37.
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Personally, I don't think I should have to play a toon to level 38 before it starts getting good 
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Saddens me to read that people are going to abandon their dom's because they are unhappy with the changes.
Ironically ? Noone whohas posted that sentiment has a dom over lvl 37.
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Personally, I don't think I should have to play a toon to level 38 before it starts getting good
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Don't bother. Already said it. Didn't do a damn thing but get me flamed. The last thing you need is more people flaming you.
But now that you bring it up I can remember my exact words: "We shouldn't have to wait till past 30 to become un-gimped, we should be balanced from 1-50 instead of from 30-40 and then we're gimped again 41-50 [referring to our sucktacular PPPs]."
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IMO, with toggle-dropping restricted, inspirations should be disabled in PvP zones.
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If we don't have break frees, then how are we going to stop a tanker who just used a ST hold on us from far away? I say this idea sucks.
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That's what I meant by enforcing team play.
No one on your team can free you, heal you, run interference for you, or even just recall friend your butt out of there until suppression kicks in? Maybe it's time for a new team?
Yeah, I know it's not that simple... but the opposing team is in the same boat...
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IMO, with toggle-dropping restricted, inspirations should be disabled in PvP zones.
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If we don't have break frees, then how are we going to stop a tanker who just used a ST hold on us from far away? I say this idea sucks.
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That's what I meant by enforcing team play.
No one on your team can free you, heal you, run interference for you, or even just recall friend your butt out of there until suppression kicks in? Maybe it's time for a new team?
Yeah, I know it's not that simple... but the opposing team is in the same boat...
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Well when you put it THAT way I like the idea. I still want the option of going solo, though, but I guess I'll just have to deal with Warburg or pray a Tanker/Scrapper in RV took Body Mastery. 99% of them did anyway.
If they remove Breakfrees, they need to remove Containment's 3x damage buff in PvP, though. That bonus wouldn't be remotely fair.
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Saddens me to read that people are going to abandon their dom's because they are unhappy with the changes.
Ironically ? Noone whohas posted that sentiment has a dom over lvl 37.
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Personally, I don't think I should have to play a toon to level 38 before it starts getting good
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Yeah, but don't you get it, we're a support AT! Um, I'm not sure how we do that either, other than holding a single Lt out of 30 in a spawn, or occasionally drawing aggo from ALL of them after our big AoE hold wears off (i.e. c. 10 seconds later). But still, we're a support AT! Somehow.
Oh wait...I see what s/he means now. We support the team by contributing a little bit of damage, quite unlike every other AT in the Isles. Heh. Well, I guess too we get to finish off that last running minion, while the rest of the team is down the hall. A very important job, that.
(Myself, I've always enjoyed how the people that say Doms are just fine, tend to be things like Plant/Fire, or Fire/*.)
Frankly, when I'm on a big team at my level of 36, I don't even bother attacking most of the time. I pick a Boss and stack holds, or a troublesome Lt. It's about all I can do.
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Why do you feel compeled to be consistently rude, Vidszhite??
I think many of you are focusing on pvp and neglecting Pve in some respects. Domi's are a support AT y'all. Yes, a bit underpowered but I played today for about 6 hours using 3 different lvl 40 dom's. Overall, if this is what we get it's better than what we had before unless you live to pvp.
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The way I read it: "We're a gimped support AT, but since I played 3 of them at level 40 for 6 hours total that doesn't matter unless you factor in PvP. You should be grateful we even GOT something to begin with."
Yes, but the way I see it, if we ARE a bit underpowered, doesn't that mean the people asking for a boost have every right to say so?
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Why do you feel compeled to be consistently rude, Vidszhite??
I think many of you are focusing on pvp and neglecting Pve in some respects. Domi's are a support AT y'all. Yes, a bit underpowered but I played today for about 6 hours using 3 different lvl 40 dom's. Overall, if this is what we get it's better than what we had before unless you live to pvp.
Saddens me to read that people are going to abandon their dom's because they are unhappy with the changes.
Ironically ? Noone whohas posted that sentiment has a dom over lvl 37. Guess what?
Sometimes things take work. The dev's are on the right track. Personally, I think the changes made dom's easily more soloable.It's all in what you want guys and up to now according to you it's all DOOOOOM!.
IF YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY A DOM
THEN DON'T PLAY ONE.
Thank you to all of the people actively testing and posting in this thread. You know who you are aside from all the naysayers and doombringers.
On a testing note? Did anyone notice that dom once built but not yet activated has a longer sustainable duration?By that I mean i can build my dom to an arbitrary %, Ill say 70, and hold it there much longer than in 6. Yes it still drops a little but overall its much easier to put domination on 'hold". Easily long enough for an mm to set up or what have you. That was a complaint said again and again in these forums.
Again?Kudo's to all of you who are willing to stick it out and continue to try to find the rays of sunshine amidst the storm clouds
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This was the problem with low level controllers, they stunk to high heaven till post 32. This was considered contrary to fun gameplay so they got containment in exchange for the cut to aoe holds.
Dom's are in the controllers old boat. They stink till the mid 30's.
The problem is they are too dependant on domination and too weak when not using it, they need to be balanced out more.
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Well, the floor on to hit is 5%, so statistically, you've never hit someone less than 1 in 20 times . Not only that, but BoI has +20% accurcay built-in, so it actually ends up with a 6% to hit chance even against a SR running Elude fully slotted. If you put in two ACC SO+++ in your hold, you can get a final minimum to hit of 10.56% (1 out of about 9.5).
Not saying that's great, or enough defense, just saying it isn't quite as bad as you suggest.
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Yeah, but the math's off there actually. You also have to account for the stacked Tactics on their team; usually 2-3 deep presuming they aren't running it themselves. I was just out in Siren's a little bit ago, getting 3 shotted by a Scrapper after getting Held for over a minute by a Troller. (Wheefun.) That's when the FoTM Blasters weren't one-shotting me into oblivion. Couldn't even get out of base on a team, because when I go down in one hit, no point in not popping over to kill me. Repeatedly.
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Wow Shiver's that bad? I've heard a good amount of Ice doms say it was useful in PvP. Also, I've heard that /Ice is among one of the highest damage secondaries among Doms, not if that's saying much though. If anything Ice/Ice seems to be one of the combinations that benefits from these new changes the most due to the slows and its ability to kite. Doesn't Power Boost affect slows too?
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Yeah. It is that bad and then some. Numbers may have been a little high too on the damage, couldn't pay attention trying to avoid getting mezzed for minute+ at a shot and one-shotted by FoTM lamers. (Just remember kids; playing an FoTM like a child is just going to get it nerfed. And then I point and laugh.)
Shiver's recharge is painfully slow, and it's late enough that I don't feel it can be slotted effectively alongside the secondaries. Anything that needs slot puts you in a real problem position because you need to 5 or 6 slot your damage dealers to get any use out of them. As far as PB affecting slows, I honestly do not know. I can't use PB in Siren's. If I hit it, I die, the end. Or it runs out before I can get to the mob, and I still die. But mostly the bright multicolor flash just serves as an 'easy kill' beacon.
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In addition I'm much happy with these changes whne PvPing in SC. Every Dom secondary, with the exception of Energy, only had one toggle drop power in SC. In my experience that one toggle dropper (Mind Probe) didn't do much. Even when fighting toons that run few toggles (Regen Scrappers), I was *rarely* able to drop their mez protection. That's all in SC though.
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They're totally unacceptable. Without those toggledrops, I cannot survive any serious attack, nor can I support my team. Currently, I go to Siren's, get on a team, and leech Rep while toggledropping the tankers and scrappers our team just CANNOT kill without that. Otherwise, I am utterly ineffective. Without those toggledrops, I serve no purpose whatsoever except occasionally dropping fliers with Chilblain. Maybe it's just my build, but if I can get a scrapper immob'd, I can hit with IS to drop toggles then hit with BoI so the rest of the team can jump on them and start landing stuns when they hit the BF.
Now? Now I can't drop those toggles, so I can't land the BoI consistently. End result? Well, I throw the immob, I charge in, scrapper drops me to half and a FoTM blaster gets me the rest of the way. Meantime my team is fighting a full health scrapper with their toggles up, and there's really no point whatsoever to my presence. Unless somebody's going for the healing badge.
I honestly cannot see any one fix for Doms either. This is what troubles me most. The Devs are well aware of the problems with Dominators in PvP. They obviously did not look at the cause though. Frankly, in order to make Dominators viable for PvP, it's going to require more than just a Domination buff. It's going to take a careful analysis of the entire AT as a whole, and a lot of little adjustments.
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IMO, with toggle-dropping restricted, inspirations should be disabled in PvP zones.
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If we don't have break frees, then how are we going to stop a tanker who just used a ST hold on us from far away? I say this idea sucks.
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That's what I meant by enforcing team play.
No one on your team can free you, heal you, run interference for you, or even just recall friend your butt out of there until suppression kicks in? Maybe it's time for a new team?
Yeah, I know it's not that simple... but the opposing team is in the same boat...
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Well when you put it THAT way I like the idea.
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Wow. Didn't realize I was that good with the Force. 
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I still want the option of going solo, though, but I guess I'll just have to deal with Warburg or pray a Tanker/Scrapper in RV took Body Mastery. 99% of them did anyway.
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See? Perfect circle. Stalkers are already quaking in fear over scrappers with focused accuracy, and here you are looking at them as targets.
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If they remove Breakfrees, they need to remove Containment's 3x damage buff in PvP, though. That wouldn't be remotely fair.
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Oh, I agree completely there.
If I quote #'s, they're from City of Data.
Global: @Kazari
It was either Taunt or Purple Triangles of Doom. I stand by my decision!
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This was the problem with low level controllers, they stunk to high heaven till post 32. This was considered contrary to fun gameplay so they got containment in exchange for the cut to aoe holds.
Dom's are in the controllers old boat. They stink till the mid 30's.
The problem is they are too dependant on domination and too weak when not using it, they need to be balanced out more.
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The devs built us with post-containment Controllers in their minds. But since we didn't get containment, nothing really made us overpowered.
If we aren't going to get mez protection, the very least we need is just-below Corr damage, more HP and high control to balance that out. And the band-aid that is Domination shouldn't have to be that balancing factor.
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This was the problem with low level controllers, they stunk to high heaven till post 32. This was considered contrary to fun gameplay so they got containment in exchange for the cut to aoe holds.
Dom's are in the controllers old boat. They stink till the mid 30's.
The problem is they are too dependant on domination and too weak when not using it, they need to be balanced out more.
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The devs built us with post-containment Controllers in their minds. But since we didn't get containment, nothing really made us overpowered.
If we aren't going to get mez protection, the very least we need is just-below Corr damage, more HP and high control to balance that out. And the band-aid that is Domination shouldn't have to be that balancing factor.
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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.
And no one has ever accused a dominator of being good in pve. Except for plant.. but that doesnt make up for the rest of the sets not performing and even plant is all because of seeds.
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This was the problem with low level controllers, they stunk to high heaven till post 32. This was considered contrary to fun gameplay so they got containment in exchange for the cut to aoe holds.
Dom's are in the controllers old boat. They stink till the mid 30's.
The problem is they are too dependant on domination and too weak when not using it, they need to be balanced out more.
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The devs built us with post-containment Controllers in their minds. But since we didn't get containment, nothing really made us overpowered.
If we aren't going to get mez protection, the very least we need is just-below Corr damage, more HP and high control to balance that out. And the band-aid that is Domination shouldn't have to be that balancing factor.
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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.
And no one has ever accused a dominator of being good in pve. Except for plant.. but that doesnt make up for the rest of the sets not performing and even plant is all because of seeds.
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Remember that guy who said he didn't take seeds and he was complaining how useless he was? LOL.
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But still, we're a support AT! Somehow.
Oh wait...I see what s/he means now. We support the team by contributing a little bit of damage, quite unlike every other AT in the Isles.
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Not quite... the answer lies in one word... " Vengeance "
Corruptor: (to team) Ok guys I got this kick [censored] buff that boosts damage, accuracy, AND defense.... its fully slotted out and will turn us all into gods while its active. Only down side is that it requires a sacrifice to trigger.
(rest of team takes one step back leaving the dominator in the front)
Dominator: Oh not again!!! <beep> That!!!
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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.
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I fully expect to get flamed for saying this (because I have been saying the same thing and getting flamed for it for 3-4 months now) but doms really need to present a united front to the devs in saying that we need changes. As long as the dom board presents a happy world where everything is wonderful and naysayers get flamed till their toenails are curling, we are not likely to be high on the priority list for buffs.
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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.
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I fully expect to get flamed for saying this (because I have been saying the same thing and getting flamed for it for 3-4 months now) but doms really need to present a united front to the devs in saying that we need changes. As long as the dom board presents a happy world where everything is wonderful and naysayers get flamed till their toenails are curling, we are not likely to be high on the priority list for buffs.
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And yet you STILL dont get it. We dont need a complete overhaul like you think. What we need is some tweaks. VIABLE Tweaks. No reducing the recharge time on Domination IS NOT a viable tweak. Thats the problem. Period.
Increased Damage
Increased charging of Dom bar (maybe 4pts per attack in PvE)
Increased control duration
Increased mag or perhaps the controllers 2nd inherent (the ability to crit on a hold)
Any of these would have been viable solutions for PvE... we got none.
Complete overhaul of the AT, nope.. wrong way to go about it. Viable tweaks... Yes!!!
Shame we are still waiting for them
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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.
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I fully expect to get flamed for saying this (because I have been saying the same thing and getting flamed for it for 3-4 months now) but doms really need to present a united front to the devs in saying that we need changes. As long as the dom board presents a happy world where everything is wonderful and naysayers get flamed till their toenails are curling, we are not likely to be high on the priority list for buffs.
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And yet you STILL dont get it. We dont need a complete overhaul like you think. What we need is some tweaks. VIABLE Tweaks. No reducing the recharge time on Domination IS NOT a viable tweak. Thats the problem. Period.
Increased Damage
Increased charging of Dom bar (maybe 4pts per attack in PvE)
Increased control duration
Increased mag or perhaps the controllers 2nd inherent (the ability to crit on a hold)
Any of these would have been viable solutions for PvE... we got none.
Complete overhaul of the AT, nope.. wrong way to go about it. Viable tweaks... Yes!!!
Shame we are still waiting for them
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I agree with both of you. We do need buffs like those presented, and maybe our secondaries need to be re-ordered (Psi especially, LOL) but we don't need to be rebuilt from scratch or anything.
And as you can see, FivefifteenA, the Dom boards are anything but a happy world where all is well right now. Maybe there are a few people like Ditzy_Blonde who think that just because we're a support AT we don't deserve to be balanced for damage OR support in all situations, but they are greatly outnumbered by the people who think we got jacked in I7.
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Why do you feel compeled to be consistently rude, Vidszhite??
I think many of you are focusing on pvp and neglecting Pve in some respects. Domi's are a support AT y'all. Yes, a bit underpowered but I played today for about 6 hours using 3 different lvl 40 dom's. Overall, if this is what we get it's better than what we had before unless you live to pvp.
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The way I read it: "We're a gimped support AT, but since I played 3 of them at level 40 for 6 hours total that doesn't matter unless you factor in PvP. You should be grateful we even GOT something to begin with."
Yes, but the way I see it, if we ARE a bit underpowered, doesn't that mean the people asking for a boost have every right to say so?
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Sure .. you can ask for a boost but you most likely arent going to get it. I think thats been proven.
Thanks Brad too for your input because you are 100% correct.
Fifteen? Many people plan a toon all the way to 50 solely for the benefits they reap upon achieving their goal. Many people were solely disgusted with Warburg and Sirens Call. Simply because its a lvl gimp for a 50.
If you want to pvp then make a toon to pvp in the zone you prefer. Don't pick a toon that blooms late.
Elemental really. I mean this isnt brain science. Fact is that dom is dom and will be dom and wont be boosted beyond for some time. Do i think a dom should have a more aggressive role in the scheme of Cov//Coh/?Heck yes!!! But that isnt what is happening to date.
Please refrain from flaming.
I'de rather read posts by people testing. Thanks
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Why do you feel compeled to be consistently rude, Vidszhite??
I think many of you are focusing on pvp and neglecting Pve in some respects. Domi's are a support AT y'all. Yes, a bit underpowered but I played today for about 6 hours using 3 different lvl 40 dom's. Overall, if this is what we get it's better than what we had before unless you live to pvp.
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The way I read it: "We're a gimped support AT, but since I played 3 of them at level 40 for 6 hours total that doesn't matter unless you factor in PvP. You should be grateful we even GOT something to begin with."
Yes, but the way I see it, if we ARE a bit underpowered, doesn't that mean the people asking for a boost have every right to say so?
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Sure .. you can ask for a boost but you most likely arent going to get it. I think thats been proven.
Thanks Brad too for your input because you are 100% correct.
Fifteen? Many people plan a toon all the way to 50 solely for the benefits they reap upon achieving their goal. Many people were solely disgusted with Warburg and Sirens Call. Simply because its a lvl gimp for a 50.
If you want to pvp then make a toon to pvp in the zone you prefer. Don't pick a toon that blooms late.
Elemental really. I mean this isnt brain science. Fact is that dom is dom and will be dom and wont be boosted beyond for some time. Do i think a dom should have a more aggressive role in the scheme of Cov//Coh/?Heck yes!!! But that isnt what is happening to date.
Please refrain from flaming.
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So just because there is little hope of getting a valid boost, we should give up all efforts of trying? Sorry, that's not how I was raised. I was raised to fight for what I believe in, no matter what it took. If the going gets harder, you fight harder. You don't give up.
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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.
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I fully expect to get flamed for saying this (because I have been saying the same thing and getting flamed for it for 3-4 months now) but doms really need to present a united front to the devs in saying that we need changes. As long as the dom board presents a happy world where everything is wonderful and naysayers get flamed till their toenails are curling, we are not likely to be high on the priority list for buffs.
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And yet you STILL dont get it. We dont need a complete overhaul like you think. What we need is some tweaks. VIABLE Tweaks. No reducing the recharge time on Domination IS NOT a viable tweak. Thats the problem. Period.
Increased Damage
Increased charging of Dom bar (maybe 4pts per attack in PvE)
Increased control duration
Increased mag or perhaps the controllers 2nd inherent (the ability to crit on a hold)
Any of these would have been viable solutions for PvE... we got none.
Complete overhaul of the AT, nope.. wrong way to go about it. Viable tweaks... Yes!!!
Shame we are still waiting for them
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I agree with both of you. We do need buffs like those presented, and maybe our secondaries need to be re-ordered (Psi especially, LOL) but we don't need to be rebuilt from scratch or anything.
And as you can see, FivefifteenA, the Dom boards are anything but a happy world where all is well right now. Maybe there are a few people like Ditzy_Blonde who think that just because we're a support AT we don't deserve to be balanced for damage OR support in all situations, but they are greatly outnumbered by the people who think we got jacked in I7.
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Then how come we are not all pulling together? I just got criticized by whatshizname because he thinks I want a "complete overhaul" while he wants "tweaks." Of course, I have never said I want a "complete overhaul," but why let facts stand in the way of flames?
Anyway, as long as we are flaming amongst ourselves over minor details, the devs aren't likely to pay us any heed -- and rightly so.
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Something needs to be done, dominator population is low and sinking. Even with the changes dominators are still little more than fodder in pvp.
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I fully expect to get flamed for saying this (because I have been saying the same thing and getting flamed for it for 3-4 months now) but doms really need to present a united front to the devs in saying that we need changes. As long as the dom board presents a happy world where everything is wonderful and naysayers get flamed till their toenails are curling, we are not likely to be high on the priority list for buffs.
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And yet you STILL dont get it. We dont need a complete overhaul like you think. What we need is some tweaks. VIABLE Tweaks. No reducing the recharge time on Domination IS NOT a viable tweak. Thats the problem. Period.
Increased Damage
Increased charging of Dom bar (maybe 4pts per attack in PvE)
Increased control duration
Increased mag or perhaps the controllers 2nd inherent (the ability to crit on a hold)
Any of these would have been viable solutions for PvE... we got none.
Complete overhaul of the AT, nope.. wrong way to go about it. Viable tweaks... Yes!!!
Shame we are still waiting for them
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I agree with both of you. We do need buffs like those presented, and maybe our secondaries need to be re-ordered (Psi especially, LOL) but we don't need to be rebuilt from scratch or anything.
And as you can see, FivefifteenA, the Dom boards are anything but a happy world where all is well right now. Maybe there are a few people like Ditzy_Blonde who think that just because we're a support AT we don't deserve to be balanced for damage OR support in all situations, but they are greatly outnumbered by the people who think we got jacked in I7.
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Then how come we are not all pulling together? I just got criticized by whatshizname because he thinks I want a "complete overhaul" while he wants "tweaks." Of course, I have never said I want a "complete overhaul," but why let facts stand in the way of flames?
Anyway, as long as we are flaming amongst ourselves over minor details, the devs aren't likely to pay us any heed -- and rightly so.
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I agree. I cant believe I just said that o.O
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1) Breakfrees prevent control in PVP
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IMO, with toggle-dropping restricted, inspirations should be disabled in PvP zones.
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If we don't have break frees, then how are we going to stop a tanker who just used a ST hold on us from far away? I say this idea sucks.