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Personally, I'm quite happy for them to do it.

Just wait til i7 when everyone has a respec and brings a team specifically designed to beat it. Then they wont have any fun at all.

Also, i very much doubt that this "best pentad team around" would beat us on an open map with our regular team.

Blaster elec deals no smashing damage...

Nice guide

Except for

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Speed boost - is like AB/AM/RA all in one

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It's AT LEAST under 75%, because that's the scrapper cap.

I'd suspect something like 50-60%.

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Last I heard it was 65%.

That was a long time ago though, havent tested it recently.

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Ive been meaning to ask, what exact uses do I (energy primary) have for power boost?

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Double speed when slowed or chasing someone (very useful in PvP), double acc buff on Build Up, double heal of Aid Self (if you choose it), double hold duration of any that you have, double knockback..

Mainly useful for PvP, can probably omit it for PvE build.

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or you got a nice secret that amaes it actaully enjoyable ?

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1) Play in the arena if possible.
2) Play for fun, not for kills.
3) Laugh when you die.

Cherry is to PvP (and CoH in general) what Julius Caeser was to the Roman Empire. Omnipotent/present/parient without any of the tunics.

Haven't really seen any noticable difference in the toHit debuff as of yet on my rad, seems to function just fine still. More testing required, though..

In the first 20 levels you can quite easily street hunt with continual defiance and use it to great effect. It's quite amazing imo.

There's so much here I could reply but I really cant be bothered.

There is just one thing I'd like to point out though. Not once did anyone 'flame' aow.

We had this discussion at the time and I'm not gonna get into it again.

After the last few days my opinion of some people has fallen even lower than it already was but I'll be taking action in my own way. I wont however produce a load of nonsensical spiel on the forums as some of you seem to like doing.

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The bad point is I'm getting sick and tired to see the same builds everywhere : storm controllers, energy (blasters, tankers), psi epics for trollers and defenders, body mastery epics for scrappers...

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Well, I made my /en blaster before PvP even existed. Not my fault he turned into an uber death machine

Oh, and Knight Stalker? pssshhh, he just kept stealing all my kills

Yea, that's correct, max 2 of each.

In 8 man, kin is essential. Our Union Allstar team has yet to play with a kin in 8vs8 and have done only moderately well because of this. Our tank and scrapper just get slowed to death and the stormies rule all. In pentad there is no sets that are essential (except probably empathy). Like I said though, I'm happy to play the alternating weeks as we have done so far

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I see no point to this thread

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Completely agreed. If everyone had just read my first post I believe it sums things up quite well.

illu/rad 1vs1 to decide this argument? You may aswell just go play rock paper scissors.

Play the game to enjoy it and let people have their own opinion.

Im sorry, but I really dont agree. 8 man is far more reliant on the builds chosen than pentad, and is much less to do with any 'skill' involved imo.

Don't get me wrong though. I am more than happy to play 8 man (if we can get 8...)

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This is if you assume everyone is pouring every ounce of ability they have into a fight. In my experience, a lot of people go there to have fun, not to just get the best win/loss ratio. Some do go there to fight with their everything and try hard to survive at all costs. That explains why some people will only take part in a fight if they outnumber the enemy, or whether the enemy is already weakened, or will only engage a target who is already occupied with someone else, and the entire falling over themselves to run away when the odds swing a little against them. I dont have troubles with most tactics, because as it has been repeated so many times, they're valid tactics. Would the people who dont fight like that, be seen as unskilled by you guys?

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Ofcourse not, and you say it like this was implied...

Great fun again, thanks for the matches everyone

Skill: Proficiency, facility, or dexterity that is acquired or developed through training or experience.

In this sense of the word, there is a lot of skill to PvP in this game. It takes a lot of practice and knowledge of the game to know exactly how specific powersets will counter each other, in both team matches and duels.

Ofcourse, this is a team game, so anyone can go pick up an ice/energy blaster with whirlwind and own most anything that comes their way 1vs1. But you will find team matches are a lot more 'skill' based. Some people just don't know how to stay alive in team. They lack either the intelligence or ability to be able to see what move to make and where.

As with anything though, practice makes perfect. Just takes some people a lot longer than others.

Grav/Bubbles, Grav/Storm, Mind/Storm, Ice/Storm are all pretty good for PvP.

Illu/Kin is also very good for PvP. Anything /kin is invaluable for team battles just for speed boost and ID. You can make most controller combo's work for PvP imo, just gotta know what role to play.

He is supposedly 90% resistant to psi, elemental, and energy damage, not sure about smash/lethal, but I guess around the same mark. He will pretty much take the Alpha strike of any AV, so very useful for that.

The 3 attacks he has are Hurl Boulder, Heavy Mallet and Stone Fists, all at the same damage level as a /stone tank, so his damage output is pretty high but slow attacks like someone mentioned.

Certainly not the worst troller pet by any means.

Edit: He doesnt move anywhere near as slow as granite form, more like a hero with sprint on. Kin will definitely compliment stoney better than any of the other secondaries though.

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Gatling stop it i want those damage/range ones, sell it to me for 26 mill then.

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Oooo, u don't want to get into a bidding war with me! I could offer double that for each and still have enough for plenty (I wouldn't though, as it would be quite ridiculous. 25 mil is ridiculous as it is)

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lousy dmg/range

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If it's that lousy, and u cant find anyone to swap with, accept my offer of 25mil for it!

Just imagine, 25 mil on a new toon, full set of enhancements for life!

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why do so many people see base raiding as the only form of pvp??

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Probably because it gives PvP more of a purpose to them *shrugs*

But then, this thread is about the best PvP supergroup, which you propably would have to give to AoW for their number of active PvPers and interest in all forms of PvP. And I suppose they're not too bad at the combat side of things either

Ofcourse. Much less time than it would take me to kill hami several times!

ok, increasing my offer to 25 mil for each!

I will give 10 million inf for any unwanted damage/range, damage/acc, damage/mez or accuracy/mez.