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Actually, scratch that. I was thinkin' too small.

I think the Hamidon should get a new set of Hami-O's choosable from reward tables.

I think the Battalion should get a new set of Batal-O's choosable from reward tables.

I think the Rularuu should get a new set of Rulu-O's choosable from reward tables.


(Those are my three guesses as to the Coming Storm baddies.)

Better even still, these O's should all be different. Duo's, trebles, quads, quints, and throw in oddball buffs like mag 1 status, global inf boosts, prestige bonuses, PBAOE ally buffs, etc, etc.

Hell, even some DDR. Get creative with it!

Inventions are awesome, no doubt, but it's been YEARS. How about some new stuff?

They're on beta and actually proccing now. Thus, the code is alive for them. Sorry for the confusion.

I just checked out the tanker ATO set (I like scraps, but I LOVE tanks, sorry) and that one is solid awesome-plated WIN.

But I haven't seen anybody looking at the scrapper ATO set, and I sure ain't gonna peel open another 80 packs to make one....

At least not tonight.

Dude.

What is wrong with you lately?

Be constructive.


As to the thread topic: Super Strength is good because it is ICONIC.

This is a SUPERHERO GAME. You bet your bippy Super Strength is gonna be good. There are other super hero genre games out there, and in ALL of them, Super Strength freakin' rocks socks.

It's expected.

That said, it's unlikely to get too much better. There's acknowledging the genre's tropes, and then there's just crazy.

Fire/fire/body tanker.

With proper investment, it can do what you are after. It takes a bit of doing, but omg, once you get there....

Hella lot of whining.

I think the dev's should make new Hami-o's to replace the functionality of the fixed ones, and have them drop from the Avatar at the end of the UG and similarly beefy critters. (Looking at the Seed zone event, for one.)

OMG yes. I've been teamed up with people and laughed so hard I couldn't see. Skype FTW!

...which requires a sub.

...which is real money.


Assuming you worry about such things


Long story short, cyto's just freakin' RULE. They always have. ESPECIALLY in Invincibility.

I like Invuln toons, so I'm very glad I have a good stock of these bad boys socked away.

The converters are not looking to be either reliable, or inexpensive. Some people really like the gambling aspect of it, others really do not. The dislike, I think, will support prices for a good while.

MA/inv is a superb combo for a low-damage, high survivabilty toon. And by low damage, I mean the lack of AOE, MA actually does very VERY good single target damage these days.

Spring attack will help with AOE and if you can stand the bad animation, is a darn nice powah. Try and synchronize it with focus chi if at all possible.

Yeah....

The Dev's have to realize they've got monumental balance problems due to the way buff/debuff stacks. Hell, the RMT'rs have to drive that home every day.

(For an enlightening look at how serious this is, look at the MARTy values again. Yes, those insanely high limits DO get hit a LOT by the RMT farmbots.)

It's City of Debuffs. That's just a fact.

Maybe this fix is a sign the Dev's are finally going to address the buff/debuff stacking issue?

Heh, same here.

In my favorite niches, I buy recipes in lots of 120.

Cytos are,were, and will remain the best slotting choice for Invincibility.

As for the rest, well, if Hamidon IS part of The big Bad, maybe the Dev's should re-touch his bits a little.

Just sayin'.

slax is ebil

/agree

This impacts me hardly at all.

However, I expect the price of cyto's to SKYROCKET, as every invuln build suddenly has a very good use for them.

Correct.


(nods) A more extreme case than the one I use, but accurate. This actually favors a scrapper a smidgeon, due to the higher crit chance, but you're giving the brute extra fury, so it's a wash, more or less.



Exactly! However, note your use of the word 'moderate'. In my experience, once the buffs start flying, it is rare for a moderate case to be found. Maybe in small teams doing low level content, would this be a common occurrence.


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Er.... At the cap?

No, and that's precisely the point: At the cap, the scrapper SHOULD be doing rather a lot more damage than the brute. But it isn't so.

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Damage_Scale

From there, note:

Brute AT scale: .75
Scrapper AT scale: 1.125

Brute cap: 775%
Scrapper cap:500%

Assume an attack with 100 base damage.

Brute: 100 x .75 = 75 damage x 7.75 at cap = 581.25
Scrapper: 100 x 1.125 = 112.5 damage x5 at cap = 562.5 x1.06 crits = 596.25

That's a 2.5 percent deficit for the brute, which I humbly submit, is not so much as 12 percent. (NOTE: The upcoming ATO scrapper proc MIGHT change this picture slightly or a lot: Time Will Tell.)

However, if we're assuming a buff-rich environment, the Brutes higher hitpoints and MUCH higher resistance cap is giving the Brute something on the order of a 100-200 percent boost in survivability.

The scrapper is paying dearly for that 2.5 percent damage output lead.

I've been saying for months that scrappers, blasters, and stalkers should have their damage caps raised to 600 percent, precisely to make them more attractive in buff-rich environments like this. (NOTE: Another way for the Dev's to address this for scrappers would be to make the Scrapper ATO proc dramatically improve their crits, and while less attractive than raising the caps, this is also a way forward.)

Not....really. Did you examine the two builds posted in this thread? Unless I messed those up somehow, they're dead even. Except the brute is waaaay tougher.


Not...really. The only advantage scrappers have damage-wise is pseudopet damage. Assuming the brute can maintain 70-ish fury for a large percentage of combat time (which I find pretty trivial on a good brute build) then the brute is pretty much dead even to somewhat ahead, depending upon how much DoT damage they have.

Again, this is my experience in play, and is backed up by my Mid's tinkering. If I've got Mid's borked somehow, I'm happy to be shown the error of my ways.

50 fury is quite low. Just for the record.

In my experience, 70 is easily sustainable. In more extreme situations, you'll be peaking above 80 pretty regularly.

At 70 percent, brutes are easily on par with scrapper damage, and still moar tuff.

Absolutely nothing.

However.

Any purples have identical effect between those two builds. Any greens favor the brute, by the mentioned 12 percent. Yellows, pinks, etc, all have identical effect on both builds.

Oranges, however, can raise the brutes S/L resist to 90 percent. It's not a difficult target to reach. And at 90 percent S/L resist, the brute is suddenly NOT 12 percent more durable (which is a huge difference in and of itself).

When SoW is popped, the scrapper can resist 75 percent, with oranges, the brute can resist 90 percent. (Or with a barrier, or an outside buff, etc.)

That gives the brute a crushing 250 percent advantage in damage mitigated. For every 1000 points of S/L that lands, the scrapper takes 250, the brute 100.

And the brute ALWAYS has more base hitpoints and more base regen, and so is much more likely to begin any conflict with full hits.

It's a huge difference. 12 percent is a LOT, over time.

Thus why I consider 70 percent fury a conservative estimate. At 80 percent fury the brutes damage output is considerably better than the scrappers, assuming I haven't screwed anything up.

I agree. Yet as I hope I've made clear, even on willpower, the brute has a huge advantage.

It's HUEG! It's got it's own weather!