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Quote:bzzzt. It's an X2.Hey mate, thats for the reply.
My rig is pretty decent. The 4870X2 is one card not a crossfire configuration.
That's a crossfire configuration. Games will only leverage both GPU's when they support Crossfire. If don't believe me, download GPUZ and turn Crossfire off in the Catalyst Control Center, then play a game in windowed mode and watch the sensors on GPUZ. Only one GPU core will be used.
Then do it again with Crossfire enabled. Both GPU cores will be enabled and utilized.
City of Heroes Ultra Mode is the first commericially released fast-pass OpenGL title to leverage the 3.x API.Quote:So you are saying that they are still stabilization the code and that over the next few weeks and months improvements will be made to Ultra mode?
Basically that means it's the first Video game to use OpenGL to render graphics as fast as possible using the OpenGL 3.x Application Programming Interface.
The lack of OpenGL 3.x game titles on the market basically mean that neither Nvidia nor AMD/ATi engineers have had practical code samples to optimize their drivers against, which in turn means that Multi-GPU support at the driver level is immature at best. More OpenGL titles are on the way, and driver support for the OpenGL 3.x API, and the 4.x API, will improve as Nvidia and AMD/ATi engineers have more real-life examples of code to work with. -
Quote:No it doesn't. I've done it when the only debuffs have been a therm-rad, and when debuffs buffs have only been a kin./Agree.
It is another one of those tf's that need a specialised team to finish it.
I've done it on teams without Tanks with Psionic Protection, and I've done it on teams with only a dark-armor tank for lead aggro. Even once did a run with no tanks and only scrappers, but to be fair, the lead scrap was a soft-capped Fire/Shield with a bubbly backing. -
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When it comes to ATi cards, it's easier to tell you who to NOT buy from than it is who to buy from. While a competitors list of hardware vendors is largely made up of companies with reputations for cheap (read shoddy) products, The only real consistant scrub in the ATi list is Diamond Multimedia.
So if your looking for just pure reliability, pretty much everything that isn't a Diamond Multimedia is a good choice. Buy the cheapest non Diamond Multimedia and you'll be set.
If you are about other factors, such as noise... well. That's where the ATi cards start to separate. A lot of the vendors use non-ducted fans, which means that the fan exhausts into the system case, rather than out the back of the case. Unless you're overclocking the 5770 though, heat isn't generally a issue, and nor is the fan. However, these non-ducted fans tend to be loud, and tend to whine obnoxiously. Sapphire, I'm glaring at you.
What you really want is a ducted fan, where a duct covering the card exhausts hot air straight out the back. Ducted cards tend to run quieter than their non-ducted cousins. Really, the best vendor's ducted fan, by far, is the XFX version.
Now, there is one non-ducted card that I would actually point you to. It's the Asus CU Core edition. I've actually got one of these copper cooled cards, and in practice, it's actually pretty quiet. -
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Quote:A: With a good enough processor, a single Radeon HD 5770 can run all Ultra Mode features in 1920*1200 and maintain an average 25~30 fps in combat across most of the game's content.Hi All,
I am just wondering has anyone manged to run ultra mode all maxed out and if so which card did you do it on?
I am currently running a 4780X2 at about 3/4 of the full potential of Ultra mode. I am looking to improve upon that before GR comes out but also want to future proof the card for about 6 months from then onwards (up to about Christmas). Anyone have any suggestions?
B: I'd suggest you actually wait and don't buy anything.
Television has a (couple) of multi-gpu modes running on the test server. The Nvidia SLI test mode allows SLI'd GTS 250's to run Ultra Mode details cranked and managed 20~25 average combat FPS in 1680*1050 against Socket AM2 Athlon64's / Phenoms and Intel Core 2 Duos. It's been indicated that there's quite a bit more headroom to be found in multi-gpu setups.
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Quote:Detra and Fey will be having their weekly Jello Rassling contest tomorrow night in Pocket D.This server seems to have a problem staying up. Boy, can I relate! HEEEYOOOO!
But seriously folks!
*watches Pocket D crash faster than Windows 7 being asked to install an XGI Volari GPU*
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Quote:Oig. I skip over pretty much everything CoH helper says since most of it's pretty useless. Explains why I didn't see the Compal data in there.I thought it was a typo of Compaq at first, but found their website when I googled the name.
Anyways, Compal is one of the larger ODM's for... lower... tier products. I don't want to call them junk since Compal actually does make some pretty good equipment every now and then. I'm wondering if the thing Pheonix has is like the Sony, Toshiba, and Panasonic laptops, using a non-standard implementation of the RadeonHD chipset... -
Quote:woah? It is a Compal?It's the Compal NBLB2 system. Oddly enough, it doesn't list on the Products list on their website but it does list in the Drivers section.
Just looking at Compal's site makes me leery of their systems. I just get a bad vibe off the site and it looks like a really cheap setup.
Looking at the downloads and seeing how sparse the driver files are for the system doesn't make me feel much better.
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Quote:Okay, did you try the Calalyst Mobility drivers that I linked? Or the standard desktop drivers from game.amd.com?Eesh. We still got the gigantic icons "Ugly No Drivers" screen.
Guess we might be WoW stranded for a while lol. We'll try it a few more times, but we've tried it all to little success. We uninstalled ATI and got the ugly screen, jumped to Safe Mode to run Driver Sweeper, rebooted to normal mode, installed the 10.5 drivers, and rebooted again.
Screen still ugly.
System Restore awaaaay lol.
I just cannot tell what the problem is. We uninstall through the Uninstaller. We driver sweep it with Driver Sweeper. And everything is clean and good. But the new driver install just will not go.
If the Catalyst Mobility drivers will not install, I suspect your laptop chassis is not supported. AMD's reference driver is known to be incompatible with chassis from Sony, Toshiba, and Panasonic.
Off the top of my head, I don't recognize the chassis you bought from Ibuypower, one of the reasons I would personally never buy from them as they tend to sell Korean or Japanese knockoffs. The chassis they list doesn't match any 15" laptop chassis with a RadeonHD 5x00 series card from any of the ODM's I know AMD's driver is compatible with: Clevo, Compal, Acer, AsusTek, and Foxconn.
That being said, you might not be entirely out of luck. The Mobiltiy modder should be able to mod the standard desktop driver to install on your laptop: http://www.gamingheaven.net/modtool.php
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Pretty much should be a non issue. City of Heroes works fine on the legacy engine against a Radeon x1950 Pro and Radeon 9600 I have with the Catalyst 9.3.1 driver set.Quote:Having forcibly removed myself from the tech side of things, I'm prompted to ask due to some PMs I've received:
What exactly are we supposed to be telling folks with legacy hardware that can't install the 10.4 or later catalyst versions? Tough titties? Upgrade or suffer? Open a ticket with NCSoft support?
About the only legacy hardware that is a real issue with the changes to the engine are Intel hardware... and well...
/emote Kevin Butler on
I mean, come'on, it's INTEL, are you INSANE?
/emote Kevin Butler off
If somebody is having an issue with the legacy engine not running correctly on the 9.3.1 drivers, yes, file a support ticket with NCSoft. -
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I always figured Staff Fighting would be more like that Daffy Duck Robin Hood Cartoon.
Can't an english version of it though : www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgTf_gt5eTk -
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Quote:hmm. Don't take this the wrong way, but all of the stuff you listed that you scanned with is junk.Recently my cpu has gone into crazy mode, hitting 100% while running on the lowest settings. I noticed it was the csrss.exe and did some research (tried ending it at first, not a good idea BSOD :/ )
Some sites say its a virus, some say its a corrupted user profile. Not sure what to do
I'd like to have you scan for Virus's with Avast and ClamWin
Avast will allow you to run it as a Boot-time scan, which will find malicious software that executes or crashes the system while Windows is running.
ClamAV can also be run from a LiveCD enviroment: http://www.volatileminds.net/opendia...ostics_Live_CD
Which again, gets you out of Windows when scanning.
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Second, I'd also like you to run a scan with Spybot Search And Destroy.
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Next, the easiest way to determine whether or not this is a profile issue is to load up Windows in safe mode.
Click on the start button and run in Xp / Vista, search in Win7.
Type in the command: control USERPASSWORDS2
This will launch the "classic" user utility. Create a new user profile, then reboot back into the regular Windows OS and login with your new userprofile.
If the behavior halts, then it is a corrupted profile and you'll need to delete the old profile.
Depending on your Version of Windows the profile will either be located under:
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they stop proccing after 20. Then they are just worth a Dual-IO from that level.
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Quote:No it hasn't.The Lore of Praetoria has been rewritten to accomodate Going Rogue.
Correction: we don't know that it isn't Tyrant's fault that the world is in it's condition after the known information concerning his interaction with the Hamidon. We don't know how Tyrant feels about what he did.Quote:Many things are still the same, but many things have also been changed. Tyrant and his Praetors are still evil (or at least gray), much of Praetorian Earth is still in ruins (but it isn't Tyrant's fault that the world is that way), and the Praetor Tilman bio is thought by many to be the Praetorian propaganda corps in action.
We do know that the story that Tyrant and the Praetorian leadership isn't the same story that players experienced.
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Their avatars and maps will be revamped. The canon stories are not being changed.Quote:The devs have said current Praetorian missions aren't going to be revamped until after GR. Their revamps won't be included with/alongside GR.
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GG. Meet my brick wall.Quote:Praetoria is getting a retcon in GR - the current Praetorian missions are going to be revamped, and the comic book should be viewd as an "elseworlds"´story

Praetoria is not getting a retcon in Going Rogue. The Praetorion mission graphics are being upgraded. The stories that the players have experienced through Maria Jenkins and Tiny McIntyre are not changing.
What we are seeing on the Going Rogue webpage is an alternate view of the Prateorian Empire, as communicated by those in charge of the empires. The developers have been very explicit about exposing the duplicity in how Emporer Cole appears to his subjects, and how Tyrant appears to beings from other dimensions.
This further insight into the mental mechaniations of the Praetorian leadership will change existing points of view about them. What might be seen as maniacal and sociopathic in one light, might be painted as the only acceptable solution in another light.
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And how do you know which one is correct? Both tell of the same event, Tilman and Aurora joining together. One paints Tilman as a evil villain. The other make her into a hero.Quote:The Going Rogue page tells of Tilman and Aurora joining spirits and doing good for all psychics out there, but the comic shows her as this madwoman who turns people into drones.
If you were her press agent, which one would YOU tell people about if you were promoting her? Oh yes, Mother Mayhem likes to Invade the Shadow Shard, Fight the Nemesis, oh and she erases people's minds and forcibly took over the wife of the guy leading the resistance...
ooorrr.. "She sacrificed her life, and her best friend decided to save her and sacrificed HER life instead"
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This. The Praetoria as featured in the comics is real. We haven't seen outside the equivelent of the War Walls for Praetoria. Until the expansion hits, we probably won't.Quote:However, it occurs to me that the background of Praetoria is that the vast majority of Earth IS a dead, desolated wasteland, and only Paragon City is the Utopia that the game trailers show us. Plus, as has been mentioned, this is propaganda. We can't trust any of it.
All we do know is that the concept art from the original Praetorian missions has been updated and the characters look considerably different. Their backgrounds have also been fleshed out in much greater detail. But other than that they can be and probably still are the tyrants they were portrayed as. -
Here's a geography question for Manticore.
According to the game lore as cited on Paragon Wiki, the Children of Enos, presumably while summining Bat'Zul, caused a volcano to arise in the old Island of Grandville.
The result of this was the formation of four new smaller islands, listed as Grandville, Port Oakes, Bloody Bay, and Cap Au Diable.
The map provided with the City of Villains game, however, shows that Bloody Bay is Far Removed from the other collective islands:

So: which Islands were split apart by the volcano?
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http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Rogue_Isles
Quote:***It is perhaps fortunate for the rest of the world that disaster struck before the Children of Enos could turn their attention to the outside world. On April 3 rd, 1833 an eruption shattered the nighttime calm. Over the course of the next few weeks, the previously un-volcanic main island of Grandville recoiled from ash, thunder, and fire as a mountain grew where none had been before. When it was all done, much of the old city was half-buried in ash. Lava flows had destroyed farmland and choked the harbor. Even more dramatic, Grandville was broken into four islands now known as Cap au Diable, Port Oakes, Bloody Bay, and Grandville.
Actually, in all fairness, looking at the map that was provided with City of Villains, this couldn't possibly be true:

If the map is drawn to scale / position, Grandville looks more like it had been a part of Saint Martial, and Bloody Bay is on the far side of both Sharkhead and Mercy Island, which in between Warburg, Bloody Bay, and the Grandville / Cap / Port Oakes islands. . -
and I was thinking it was just Detra and Fey having a trampoline jumping contest....
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Quote:I'd say say just do a search for posts by me in the Technical Support section.... but my Search-Fu is weak.
I have been going through thread after thread, post after post, trying to find where the exact system requirements are for Ultra Mode. I am casually looking at buying a new system and if I do invest in something, I want to play the game maxxed out in every category. I just can't find the info.
Could someone take pity on me and provide a link?
The minimum starting point for Ultra Mode graphics are
ATi: RadeonHD 4850
Nvidia: Geforce 9800 GTX / GTS 250
These cards can push Ultra-Mode in low detail at about 1680*1050 with most Socket AM2 Athlon64 / Phenom processors and most Intel Core 2 Duo processors.
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To run Ultra Mode maxed out, you really want to be looking at a RadeonHD 5770 or better.
Against a Socket AM3 Phenom 965 and an Intel I7 920 Engineering Sample the RadeonHD 5770 can drive 25~30 frames-per-second in most combat situations with all Ultra Mode Effects enabled.
There are various reasons why Nvidia cards aren't really an option right now... The short list on why you wouldn't want to buy an Nvidia card runs like this:
You would be getting price gouged on specifications.
Nvidia's end-of-lifed Geforce GTX series only supports DirectX 10 / OpenGL 3.0. The cheapest one, the GTX 260, starts at around $175. It's younger brother, the GTS 250 can be had for around $110 if you buy a cheap model. The one you'd actually want though, the fully ducted Evga often cited as the best non-BFG card... will set you back by about $130 for the 512mb model, and the 1gb model tops $155.
You would be getting price gouged for performance.
This $130 market though is where the RadeonHD 5750 can be picked up, and it offers OpenGL 4.0 / DirectX 11 support. You can get a fully ducted HIS 1gb 5750 for about the same price as a good GTS 250.
At the $170 mark you could pick up one of Asus's Copper Cooled 5770's with 1gb of video memory.
Both of the RadeonHD 57xx cards listed will scamper right past a GTX 260, and the $250+ GTX 275 for that matter. If you decided you didn't want DirectX 11 / OpenGL 4.0 support, there's still the massive problem of the super-clocked 4890... which can be had for a little over $200. With recent driver updates, the 4890 delivers frame-rates that can match those of the GTX 285... which costs nearly $150 more.
If you break the $300 mark, you could indeed pick up a Geforce GTX 470 for around $340. However, it's not actually any faster than the RadeonHD 5850's that can be had for around $50 less... and the Geforce uses up way more power and puts off way more heat.
If you're willing to part with even more money, the average selling price on a Geforce GTX 480 is around $500. However, it's not actually $100 faster than the $400 RadeonHD 5870... and again, you're going to need power supply with a higher wattage rating, and if you live in the Arctic Circle, your space heater needs have been solved. -
SLI is not currently supported on the Live Server.
Television (the coder) and his minions are working with ATi and Nvidia to implement multi-gpu and some testing modes are available on the test server. -
I forgot about that member link issue, even though I've copied over posts before because of it.
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Anyways, on the subject of 64bit. Against the platform I showed in the first thread... no go. Game crashes straight out. Quakelive works, so I've got OpenGL acceleration under Fglrx 10.5. That being said, I've got some really odd rendering errors too.
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oh ug. Catalyst 10.5 has a couple of nasty 64bit OpenGL regressions. Bugs filed to ati.cchtml.com While I compile the screenshots, here's City of Heroes working with Catalyst 10.4 with an ultra mode setting in a 64bit enviroment:

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Oig. Catalyst 10.5 has OpenGL rendering issues PERIOD.
64bit:

32bit:
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Transgaming has pushed out one of the Maudite engines as a public release beta: http://www.cedega.com/news/archive/?id=175
The update also brings with it a 64bit UI installation package. I have not yet TRIED this installation package, so I don't know if it works yet with CoH.
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With this beta all ATi users with Catalyst 10.1, 10.4, or 10.5 should be able to run Ultra Mode options atop RadeonHD graphics cards.
Nvidia users are still SOL. Even with the latest beta 256 driver, Ultra Mode still isn't exposed to the end user.\
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Well, this is hopeful:

As a note, if you are using a Mixed Debian system, such as Mepis like I'm using, you'll probably need to force the Debian repositories to load from testing as Cedega now requires the ia32-libs package for 64bit installs.

