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havent really loooked into the new booster..can anyone give a clue to some of the higher points of it?

theres a few threads on test section and people going crazy ..i gave up trying

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It's ten dollars and you get to be a transsexual.

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A ten dollar SRS? That sounds rather dubious...

But if it were really that cheap, a lot more sad people could be happy.

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they use a chainsaw,,,

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The Ae is working as intended? no problems? What a load of crap. A vast majority, almost all of AE usage is for farming. Farming is an exploit. Not working as intended.

If the Devs removed 50% xp from all AE missions that aren't Devs Choice or HoF, it would completely cut out the farming. The only reason to play the AE would be for it's actual purpose...which is to make and play quality story arcs and missions with creative and thought out stories, charcters, and dialogue. If everyone quit playing AE because they could only use it as intended instead of farming the [censored] out of it, then that just makes the AE a complete failure. Not my problem.

If they leave the AE in game as is, IMO they are giving the green light to farmers and PLers. They are basicly saying let this game turn into a cesspool of farmers that will burn out and die, because we don't want our precious AE to be deemed a failure.

Bottom line is this game has changed for the worse since AE. Don't waste your breath telling me otherwise. I've been here for over four years and I know. This game makes be sick right now. If they want games like CO to crush CoX, they are setting up the perfect storm by letting this [censored] happen. Mark my words, stop the excessive farming, especially in Cap and Atlas, or this game will not survive. People that farm all day everyday burn out. They get tired of their repetative existance and they quit, they move on. If this game chases away it's true fan base for a bunch of noob farmers, they might make a killing right now, but will be dead a year from now.

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All this from a person that stands in CAP on his 50 Brute Jacobi Law spamming broadcast for his farm. Brilliant!

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Liers go to hell.

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so do bad spellers

If the girl in question is a spines scrapper, she knows anything she wears will be shredded defeating the first hellion. And not by anything he does. Spandex is expensive. Look at the human torch. anything he wears (other than that improbable fff suit) is toast when he says "flame on". How much money will he waste?

And if she is a stone tank, it isnt as if you can see her costume in granite form.

I am scheduling a Dr Q tf for july 3rd. 10am central. Let me know if you are interested.


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How about a happy medium? Cut XP by 1/2 in the AE. Also, Make it so that one needs to be of a Zone's level or lower to use a given AE. That way 50s would go to PI and still be able to PL people, and lvl 1s could use the AE in Atlas to play actual content.

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AE is not actual content.

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anyone remeber jack emmert and how people disliked him because he made the game into his vision rather then giving players what they wanted?

[/ QUOTE ]silly question, yes we remember jack, he gets brought up on a fairly regular basis. People are not always rational, jack made good decisions and bad ones, just like any game developer, some people nurse their spite about the bad ones and ignore the good ones, their loss, but with that attitude, far from the only one in their lives.

The decisions made in the game are the developers, because its their jobs that are gone if they implement bad features, at times it appears that they have recognized good ideas put forth by the playerbase and implemented them, many other times they realized the poster was out of their skull and completely ignored them and other times the idea is good but just doesnt fit. Every developer has a vision, dont kid yourself, its jsut up to you wether your vision meets theirs or not.

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I blame Jack for the incredible pony shortage in Paragon City. Damn him to heck!!!!!

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The game belongs to the Devs. They can do with it as they please. We pay them money to rent the game from them. It's within their best interest to make choices that will increase the number of rentors rather than decrease that number, so players do have some effect upon it, but the game is not, nor will it ever be, the players'.

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It is my game. Posi lost it in a poker game. I tried to get Ms Liberty an Sister Psyche in a strip poker game but they were busy standing around.

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Ugh, I met a guy who, for reasons too long to go into, decided he had something to prove. He invited me to a Task Force the next night, using a second account, then "revealed" that it was him again, ha ha! I decided to stay and ignore the jabs. As soon as the TF started, he DCed, and I assumed he'd quit after "making his point," but he appeared for the last mission and got credit. God only knows what he thought he was proving about his skill as a player by not playing.

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Perhaps he was trying to prove how cool it is to cheat other players.
That guy is really "cool" - if cool means being an absolute jerk.
So maybe he was trying to be "smooth" - if smooth means being a leach.

I think that the AE exploits have brought a very bad crowd to this game.

I remember when we were known as the friendliest and most helpful players in any MMORPG.
These scum are going to ruin our rep pretty quickly if they stay here much longer.
I'm sure the DEVs can use their money, but what is it costing us?

I've heard that "money is the root of all evil".
Epimethius has been running wild.
Where's Prometheus when you need him?

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you are funny. I have seen that sort of behavior for a loooong time brfore AE. Remember the idiots that used to grief Hami raids and cause yellow dawn?

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Learn something new everyday. All this time I've been playing with some really good tanks and never knew that "herding" was the term for what they do so well.

I've not had the experience of waiting for the tank to lead the herd to the rest of the team. Instead, most times the tank is way out ahead of the team and pretty much does exactly as Umbral described.

As a matter of fact, this seems to be fit in with the tactics I've seen in both my SG teams and PuG teams. We basically just steamroll the opposition.

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What really drives tanks crazy, is when you are running into a room in granite and you are passed up by a warshade that runs around agroing everything in the large room, then dragiing them back and dying. Taking the empath along for the hospital ride because they made the misguided attempt to keep the WS alive. I have seen blasters do this also. Then complain loudly when they faceplant. I dont have to herd(though it is useful with some foes/situations). Let me at least grab a little of the agro before you leroy jenkins in there. If you really think you want to tank, Ill give you your shot. Just dont be upset at eating carpet.

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I was on a horrible pug over the weekend. Much faceplanting and teamwipes I was irritated (too much stress for too little reward) and couldn't quit the team fast enough when I read the following comment from the level 42 Warshade.

"Wut r enhancements?"

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LOL

I wonder if he was piled

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He was either an AE farm baby or an Ebay Account user. I hate both types, especially when they think that, just because they've got another character on their account that's a 50 that you don't. Makes me laugh to bring up my entire stable and put them in their place.

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Was on a team with 1 of those the other day. We pointed out that the 3 of us in the same SG each had a minimum of 12 50's. Not Pl'd. I just like running toons to 50, I'm funny that way.
Which is part of the reason I didnt like merits. I used to bring the most useful toon on TF's, not my merit gatherer.

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But i think all the AE farming really is making really bad players for the other content.

Don't get me wrong. I love PLing, farming, and IO'ing out my characters. I don't RP, i don't like telling anyone how to play there game. I just thought id say maybe those of us farmers out there can take a little more care in who we invite to our teams.

Last night i did a synapse TF on Freedom. A pretty well rounded team, balanced, and pretty fluent in terms of moving along at a good pace. Well, 8 people started, only 5 finished. We went down to 5 after about 45 mins. Players that were invited to a TF, who knew there were being invited to a TF that were going to be exemplared down to level 20, had no idea why they were getting no XP, and didn't even know the benefit of the task force commander accolade and 50 or so merits you get upon completion.

It's unbelievable what people get themselves into, with no regard for the team or task at hand.

I hate to blame AE, but it's hard not too.

So, all i am saying is....don't pl with the n00bs, they are probably leaching in your farms anyway.

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We have been seeing this for long before MA was even announced. It isnt anything new.

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Yeah, before MA people was stuck in PI. A few times I got sick of hearing in BC how do you get out of PI. I said a few times, go to the island to the northwest.

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I know people that have been actively playing for 4+ years and cant play worth a damn. Not pl'd. No farming. Lots of hot cat girl ERP. RPers seem to be the players that cant figure how to play.

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But i think all the AE farming really is making really bad players for the other content.

Don't get me wrong. I love PLing, farming, and IO'ing out my characters. I don't RP, i don't like telling anyone how to play there game. I just thought id say maybe those of us farmers out there can take a little more care in who we invite to our teams.

Last night i did a synapse TF on Freedom. A pretty well rounded team, balanced, and pretty fluent in terms of moving along at a good pace. Well, 8 people started, only 5 finished. We went down to 5 after about 45 mins. Players that were invited to a TF, who knew there were being invited to a TF that were going to be exemplared down to level 20, had no idea why they were getting no XP, and didn't even know the benefit of the task force commander accolade and 50 or so merits you get upon completion.

It's unbelievable what people get themselves into, with no regard for the team or task at hand.

I hate to blame AE, but it's hard not too.

So, all i am saying is....don't pl with the n00bs, they are probably leaching in your farms anyway.

-Inc

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We have been seeing this for long before MA was even announced. It isnt anything new.

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Look, I already asked you to look it up.

Pistols are not generally effective passed 3 to 5 meters. They were designed as last-chance military weapons to be used when your enemy charges at you. They are "knock-down" weapons intended to keep opponents from over running your position.

They are melee weapons. And CoH melee range is 10 feet/3 meters. Look it up

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The maximum EFFECTIVE range of an Beretta 9mm pistol is 50 meters or 54.7 yards, but the maximum range of the bullet itself is 1800 meters. This is the pistol used by all branches excluding the special forces units. It is not a knockdown pistol designed for military as a last resort. It was designed as a secondary weapon in case of failure of your primary weapon. However the average shooter will be lucky to hit a man size target past 25 meters. How do I know this you might ask? I am a Combat Weapons Master Instructor for the United States Marine Corps. As far as them being melee weapons in game I don't know and don't care but they are not melee weapons in the military. That is what your bayonet or k-bar knifes are designed for. 8)

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/e Laughing my [censored] off while asking this

OMG, did...he.....just...pistol...melee......HAHAHA...

/e better now

thx alot, now I have to explain to a room full of soldiers that I nearly had convinced to try CoX that not everyone in this game is a moron.
Most everyone in the Army knows this to be true. It's a borad question.

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This is a game. Reality has no place here. Take an archer. No matter how good he is, he wont be doing rain or arrows. Or many of the other neat tricks at the kind of ranges we use. A bow with exactly the same range as a sniper rifle? Why does shooting an arrow at some one use the same amount of energy as shooting fire from your hand? And how can i use hard rads to arrest a purse snatcher and not have him loose his hair or get cancer?

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I've seen alot of feedback about the MA ranging from its amazing to its complete BS.

For me I believe that the MA is a good thing that has been trashed by the lazy masses.

I do not object to farms in the slightest. I do not blame all of the games troubles on the farmers. I blame it on those people who constantly spam lf ae team. However when you send a tell they are only interseted in an ae farm. It gets a little ridiculous when you join an SG and team with a group of 50's from that SG and not a single one of them has a vet badge. Not even the 3 month one. I have been trying to help this group learn how to play, however at times it does try my patience because if they had played up at least part of the way they might know how to play their toons.

I also find it a bit disgruntling from a writing point of view. I had a few arcs done that I thought were good. However I could never get any outside input (other than my friends who tried it and they might be biased as well) because almost no one seems to be doing the arcs.

One of my friends and myself actually made a really good task force like story arc. I thought it was a blast. I even went so far as to recruit a few teams to do his arc because I know he was a bit saddened by the fact no one was playing it. I was hoping that if a few people would play it word of mouth might spread. . . . but it hasnt.

They all rated his arc well, I even specificly told them not to blindly rated it but to rate it as they felt it deserved it recived all 4 and 5 stars. It currently sits at 4 stars or at least it did. If you wish to check it out its called For the love of Silver, I do not recall the ID though he may have taken it down by now I do not know.

I had hoped that this might get it the recognition it needs however it hasnt. Because I have noticed that many farm maps get rankings of 4 stars. I know one that has upwards of 600 votes and has a 4 star ranking. The guy didnt even bother to put in ANY kind of story. Yet it has a 4 star rating from hundreds of people.

This has actually made me do an experiment. I ripped off the idea of that particular farm, made some minor alterations put it up and ran a couple lowbies through it and told them the arc id. . . . . I started getting votes

So my own arc that I had spent hours on writing and trying to come up with interesting things to do. The arc that I spend several thousand tickets on just so I could unlock everything. Is was sitting at 14 votes and a 4 star rating after being up for weeks. I have since pulled the arc down since I see no reason to beat my head against a brick wall.

The arc that I spent about 5 to 10 mins on after a single evening had 30 votes. . . . and a 4 star rating.

Come on people give credit where its due. I do not believe farms should be banned but rate them what they should be. A map full of nothing but minion only, Lt only or Boss only mobs with absolutely no story should not get a 4 star rating.

Thats all I really ask is people start voting for what the story is, not for if it levels you the fastest.

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MA is for story telling, forums are not. I give that sob storys 2 stars.

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Break out the whips and the hairshirts

Somebody made a story that gives good rewards

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he may be right! nerf the stf!. 5 av's and a GM in the final mission is obviously a farm.

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I think a lot of the attitude comes from that until now, we've been mostly used to the devs being pretty lax by MMO standards, and being quiet about having to take action against players (as far as I know, anyway). Positron's announcement was a huge shock, but I think it was necessary to get the message across that farming MA exploits=bad.

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I have always though the devs should release monthly statistics.

x players temp banned for profanity etc

x players perma banned for RMT behavior etc.

no details, just letting us know they are actually trying to deal with rmt spam and not just their pet projects.

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and defeating comm officers was completely withing the rules also.

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Was it? When the Devs made it pretty clear before the MA was even released that exploits in the MA would be addressed? It was pretty dumb of them to allow it to go through from the Beta, but I do believe that they made it pretty clear that farming like that was NOt within the rules of the MA.

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you dont actually know that something is an exploit until they declare it so. You might have a pretty good idea that it might be, but you dont know.

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There is a pretty good deal of gray area when it comes to exploits, I'll give you that. The Comm Officer missions were so far into the black area it wasn't funny, and it was pretty obvious that they were in the black area, too. Being able to level from 1 to 50 in the span of a couple of hours with a single high-level character in a group should have tripped pretty much everyone's alarm.

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Perma dom fits into the description for exploit, yet the devs say its ok.

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How does perma-dom fit the definition of an exploit? In order to get there, you need to spend millions and millions of influence, and take time to get your characters to a level where it's possible. Even then, you are only seeing the AT at the peak of it's performance. Perma Dom is not an exploit, and never has been. Seeking to attain Perma-Dom is nothing more than a Tanker trying to achieve the Defense Soft Cap.

The ONLY thing that it does is create a have-vs-have not situation within the Dominator community. But even that isn't too bad.

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the concept of domination is pretty easy. you build up a bar of "domination", click the button, you have elevated powers for a set amount of time. Getting your recharge up to where you go around the mechanism of the domination bar clearing is clearly an exploit. You are circumventing the game code.

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... although for firetanks, it was kind of a matter of "read the Mephe's Perfect Burn Tank guide, throw down Burn for 300 hours."

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That was when people were using the defense exploit before GDN. And others were using the 5 damage SO's exploit before ED.

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What defense exploit? And what 5 damage SO exploit? Both of those were completely within the rules back then.

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and defeating comm officers was completely withing the rules also. of course if you keep the rules secret........

you dont actually know that something is an exploit until they declare it so. You might have a pretty good idea that it might be, but you dont know. Perma dom fits into the description for exploit, yet the devs say its ok.

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... although for firetanks, it was kind of a matter of "read the Mephe's Perfect Burn Tank guide, throw down Burn for 300 hours."

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That was when people were using the defense exploit before GDN. And others were using the 5 damage SO's exploit before ED.

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Seriosuly, no one outside paragon studios knows jack all about the expansion yet.

Mostly people are just speculating.

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I do. but i am a time traveler from the future. And to tell you early would violate the subprime directive. And require you to fill out a 200000 page application using 1 number 2 pencil. or blood.(for red side players the blood does not have to be your own)

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They arent customized, they are standard mobs in standard proportions.

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Same is true for Comm Officers...

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which were not in the standard proportions. A ma freak mission is no different than some of the missions in the manti tf. or numerous radio missions. no exploit there.

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*Facepalm* Seems it really is gonna take the wrath of the devs to get it through people's heads rather than just threats.

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I don't envy their position. They can either allow MA to be abused horrendously or bring down the wrath of heaven on its misuse, progressively alienating more and more players with each exploitative loophole they close. I suppose I'd go with "stop the abuse and suffer the consequences" myself, and I think the devs will do the same, but that combined with all the other angst and threats to the game out there means the servers may be pretty quiet places a year from now.

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wait a min. freaks are an exploitable loophole? A mixed mob of m/l/b's? with fly and stun and sleeps and rezzes? They arent customized, they are standard mobs in standard proportions. How in the hell is this an exploit?

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A L50 toon that exemplars down is ... still a 50, but her combat level (I believe that's the right term) has been clipped.

An Imp is /never/ 50. An Imp is never summoned at 50. An Imp is, tops, 49. An Imp is not a 50 that's exemped down to 49. An Imp is, for all intents an purposes, a L49 toon that cannot have the stats of its powers modified by a purple because purples only work on 50s.

Exemplaring does not factor into this /at all/.

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an imp cannot get any recharge bonus, thus proving it is not a toon and can be affected differently. Fix it.

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The Devs don't care about the paying customers time spent in game to build their toons. Just go with it and praise them a lot.

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Well given that the entire reason for this change is to prevent more people from spending big inf on a useless IO, I'd say that pretty much invalidates your claim of "they don't care."

And before you say something like "if they cared they'd fix the bug", you have no idea how deep in the code the bug goes. Obviously if it was the same amount of work to put in the warning as to fix it, they'd just fix it.

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They must fix this terrible exploit!!!

I have a toon in a sg that makes a point of not inviting children. You are asked your age and usually have to talk on vent before an invite is handed out. Had a member tell them they had to tone down their sg chat because her kid would play her account. After some deliberation, she was asked to leave the sg. It is a place for adults, not kiddies. She refused and was kicked. I think she tried petitioning them but they heard nothing of it.
I am not here to baby sit your kids. Your child is not my responsibility. If raising your child is too tough, you should have used a condom.