bigboy_EU

Great taskforce guys, great way to end this stage of my playing and remind me why I want to come back. Cya in about 6 weeks.

I'm taking a break for at least a month in a couple of days but one thing has been nagging me for ages. I have every non shadow shard TF badge bar Manticore and I want it to complete the set before I go. My account runs out on the 17th but would there be any chance of starting it tomorrow at 7? I would be very grateful to anyone that could turn up.

Meet by Manticore at 6.45

I guess I've just got experience and can't remember the days between "holy [censored] I'm bad at tanking," and "Yep I can tank 8 man spawns with just chilling embrace," but I don't see why you need taunt before early 20's, it seams unneeded to me. I guess though on second thoughts Glacial armour, jab and Icicles are also unneeded (not even looking at permacrap and hand clap).

I never got the point of tough anyway seamed a pointless end drain to me for an ice tank. Aid self all the way. With Aid self you turn into a sort of 'regen' tanker, due to having three heals and you can tank better vs toxic/psi.

p.s. Good to see another person with Ice/Energy, I'm looking forward to my nerfs next issue.

Hibernate is also a god-like power in PvP. You'll be getting screams of "[censored] imba" a lot.

I can't comment on /ice but for the rest...

Change the second taunt in chilling embrace to either slow or endrex depending on what you want. The taunt isn't needed (from experience)

If you really want the 1.4% def from the 3 slots in combat jumping, fair enough, I'll leave em. Take the endred from Glacial armour (0.239 end per second) and slot it into icicles (1.040 end a second).

In your current slotting you can get 0.79 def per usage of Energy Absorption. If you find that you are in large teams more often you might get a better result from slotting recharge instead. You can get as good as twice the spammage of EA that way and so can in theory (not practice) get 1 def per usage as well as double the endurance gain.

I'm not sure about permafrost but I'm also not sure what to replace it with...

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Since when is ice/energy fotm in pvp, i barley see any, if anything invulnur/energy melee is more fotm.

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You don't see many because everyone's levelling them now, you can find shedloads of Ice/* tankers around and a good percentage of them are energy meleers.
Just look at this forum: 6 out of the first 11 posts are about Ice tankers, 3 of wich are about Ice/Nrg tankers...

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Damn bandwagon jumpers! I remember back in the good old days...(goes into grandad rant).

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There's something I would like to know.. Can Ice tankers TANK and herd decently? I've been playing CoH for the last year (with a few months break, like most of CoH players) but I've never teamed with an Ice tanker, so I could take my own conclusions about it. My Ice tanker ir currently L19 and so far I'm not that well impressed. Maybe it is too soon to take conclusions, since I don't have SOs or stamina and the key-powers (especially hibernate) are still to come. Just wanted some expert opinion about it. Cheerios

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Ice tanks can herd better than any other tank of similar skill level with chilling embrace alone.

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interesting. How does slotting Endmods affect it? Does is increase both the drain on mobs and +endurance returned? What would you say is the best slotting in respect to end cost/end recovery ratio, ignoring defense slotting. Would it make any sense to slot for end reduction in this case?

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Endred is really not worth it. There are only two choices really 3 recharge and either 3 end mod or 3 defense. I personally go endmod as it does drain more while also increasing end gain. with 3 endmods you can almost drain a minion with no drain resistance.

Naaa I like the comedy factor of healing people when I'm getting hammered.

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Curiously I took Ice/Energy for concept reasons.

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I guess they mean the I7 bandwagon jumpers...No one in I4 picked ice tanks if they were going for anything 'uber' .

http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/sh...fpart=1#472641

Maybe it's just me being cocky but I never got why any tank would team with another...It just leads to chaos and/or feelings of inadequacy. I would rather solo tank any day as it allows me to do what I want when I want.

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Excuses, Excuses I would have been happy to play on the outdoor map but you lost a player at start up.

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u attacked them b4 1 loaded when they had said "wait, waiting on 1" on broadcast, but u ran in and killed 1

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I did offer a free point...

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Right, this is too all these people:

@Bigboy3387
@Knight Stalker
@Rooks
@Gatling
and @Seriphimus

Our match will commence at 7.30 PM on Sunday, you have all confirmed this, apart from Rooks, who hasn't replied yet, if anyone could contact him, that would be great.

Ninja Edit - Rooks now confirmed!
Cya Sunday at 7.30 in Galaxy guys.



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i missed the match, but who won and what was the results? i'm thinking the not heavy blaster team won?

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youwould be correct especially as it was the caves map!

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Excuses, Excuses I would have been happy to play on the outdoor map but you lost a player at start up.

That map we were on was a nightmare but still good fight...

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Guys, It's looking like I won't be able too make Tuesday-Friday at all, so all that are in the set of my match, are any of you available to do it at an earlier time, maybe Sunday night?

This applies too
@Bigboy3387
@Knight Stalker
@Rooks
@Gatling
and @Seriphimus

If so, let me know, if you don't reply/pm me here, ill try and contact you ingame.

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Sunday is fine for me, Monday also but it must be early evening (aka before 9).

Shame I gotta team with that noob Rooks though

Right build 4...the final show. Any last minute recommendations?

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Bigboy3387
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Energy Melee
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01) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(5) DefBuf(5) EndRdx(13)
01) --> Barrage==> DisDur(1)
02) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(2) Rechg(3) Rechg(3) Heal(13) Heal(15) Heal(25)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> Slow(4) EndRdx(7) EndRdx(7) Slow(9) Taunt(9)
06) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(6)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(8) Jump(25) Jump(43)
10) --> Bone Smasher==> Dmg(10) Dmg(11) Dmg(11) Acc(17) Acc(37) Rechg(40)
12) --> Icicles==> Dmg(12) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Acc(21) EndRdx(21) EndRdx(29)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16) Jump(29) Jump(42)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> DefBuf(18) DefBuf(19) DefBuf(19) EndRdx(31)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Taunt==> Taunt(24) Rechg(34)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> EndMod(26) EndMod(27) EndMod(27) Rechg(33) Rechg(33) DefBuf(33)
28) --> Build Up==> TH_Buf(28) Rechg(34) Rechg(34) TH_Buf(42) Rechg(45)
30) --> Hasten==> Rechg(30) Rechg(31) Rechg(31)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32) Rechg(37) Rechg(45)
35) --> Energy Transfer==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Acc(36) Acc(37) Rechg(40)
38) --> Total Focus==> Dmg(38) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Acc(39) Acc(40) DisDur(43)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> TH_Buf(41) TH_Buf(42) TH_Buf(43) EndRdx(46) EndRdx(46) EndRdx(46)
44) --> Aid Other==> Heal(44) Heal(45) Heal(48)
47) --> Aid Self==> Heal(47) Heal(48) Heal(48) Rechg(50) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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[...] Ghost widows soul storm drops any tanker but with enough defence it can miss, i just saw the build up to it and clicked unstoppable and she didnt kill me, i was too hard! and unstoppable cant be detoggled muahahaha. [...] Invulns are great versus ghost widow [...]

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o.O - she held me straight through Unyielding and Unstoppable with just a single hold.

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I seen her detoggle a granite + rooted tank with a single shot...[censored].

Tank/Scrapper/Controller vs Tank/Scrapper/Controller

Gonna be a great battle...

Also hopefully we will all have respecs by the draw.

Works fine in groups without itchy trigger fingers but you try doing that on a large team with suicide blasters. If you pull any more aggro they are completely untaunted and so if the blaster fires...Well lets just say your running in anyway and chaos cometh (which is always fun).

Is taunted needed for that though? I'm sure if you just ran in, run around all the mobs and then go and hide in your corner that will do the same thing.

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People do use powers with knockback, repel, fear and repel causing foes to leave an aura and be in a very short time untaunted. At least with taunt you can create a long enough taunt on 5 foes whilst doing your best to cover as many other foes as possible, not always easy when foes are running in all directions and you are visually checking for "immediate threats to the team".

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Again, each player is responsible for their own agro. If you knock a mob out of the tankers taunt aura then I don't see it as being the tankers responsibility (primarily) to get them back into it.

My point being is that, yes, a tanker needs some way to taunt mobs, but with a competent team a taunt aura is perfectly sufficient. If it's NOT then it's pointing to the team being incompetent MORE than the tanker not having a "proper" tanker build.

When my scrapper was running through the lvls with the fire tank we tried to educate people (especially blasters) that if they found themselves in the situation where they were drawing too much agro then they should run in, or at least through the tank's aura which would pull the agro back off them.
I'm assuming that's an extremely difficult concept to grasp, given the number of people who failed to heed the advice

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What you say is true but I feel that any idiot can tank with a taunt aura, honestly it takes little skill. Good tanks need bad teams to shine. If all the enemies are getting knocked around all over the place (lets say a energy blaster, a storm defender who doesn't have a clue, etc) and the tank is bouncing around and somehow keeping all the aggro, that is a good tank.

My point? Any noob can tank in a great team but only good tanks can tank in bad ones. If you educated everyone then there wouldn't be much point in good tanks any more .

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It felt so wrong killing the poor squishies again and again ......

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Yup, pick on the squishies seemed to be the majority tactic. Hence the 15 deaths for me (tank being the other 2! ) in the second round.

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Heh mainly because I completely forgot I had hibernate. Still we kicked total [censored] and I must say thanks to both teams for the great support. It was made even more funny by the fact I was well on my way to being drunk while playing (hence the hibernate cockup).

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Aww, I would but it's the 3vP night

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Same