Ice/SS is nice! I have a level 40 one.
Most of the primary is good. Permafrost I wouldn't rate. Icicles is optional, but given SS doesn't have a PbAoE until level 38 I picked it up in the 20s and I am very happy with it ( it does about 1/3rd of my total damage per session ), despite it needing 6 slotting.
From the primary I have everything but Permafrost. Energy Absorption and Hibernate are both very fun. All the toggles are essential, but I left Glacial Armour until the early 20s. Hoarforst is a tanking essential that should be picked up early too.
From the secondary I have Jab, Haymaker, Taunt, Knockout Blow, Rage and Foot Stomp.
Rage is awesome, get it at 28. KO blow and Foot stomp are also awesome.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Atm I've got
Frozen Armor
Hoarfrost
Chilling Embrace
Wet Ice
Jab
Punch
Am going to grab Taunt at 10 then CJ at 12 :P SJ then the fitness rubbish :S
Yes, the only big decision you have in the next few levels is whether to get glacial armour at 18 and push fitness or taunt back to 22. I didn't.
That and of course slotting.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
The Armor can wait :P
Am glad I got Taunt, can keep the aggro easy with CE & Taunt.
Aye, did the same with my Ice/SS (13 atm) - CE and taunt allows you to really grab the aggro - get a blaster, duo to 20 to get past the boring power picks, then rock on - pretty much my plan 
If only I knew people on Union :P
I guess I've just got experience and can't remember the days between "holy [censored] I'm bad at tanking," and "Yep I can tank 8 man spawns with just chilling embrace," but I don't see why you need taunt before early 20's, it seams unneeded to me. I guess though on second thoughts Glacial armour, jab and Icicles are also unneeded (not even looking at permacrap and hand clap).
I got taunt at 10 or 12 because I really really hated not having it. Originally it was going to be taken at 22, but I kept on having 'I'll just use taunt on him .. DOH!' moments so I gave in.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Main reason I thought I needed it ;P those blasters always in trouble...
Would Hand Clap be useful? I figure it could be since Ice is +DEF so the less I get hit the better :P on on +Res you don't really need to disorient a foe.
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Would Hand Clap be useful? I figure it could be since Ice is +DEF so the less I get hit the better :P on on +Res you don't really need to disorient a foe.
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Trust me, AoE Disorient and AoE KD (but not AoE KB) is a godsend for a Fire Tanker. Every mob that has aggro towards you but can't attack is an additional mob you can tank above your theoretical maximum DPS.
That said, I see Hand Clap as more of an emergency power when someone aggros an additional spawn or two. You just have to consider if you feel you'll need such a power.
What is this taunt rubbish? With plain CE I'm keeping aggro fine in 8-man teams with multiple blasters... Taunt is a waste of slot 
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Well at level 12 :P I've saved alot of blasters with Taunt also since I can't always run CE atm beacuse of End it really does help...
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I agree, ive been teaming with him and his CE goodness 
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I agree, ive been teaming with him and his CE goodness , i would say drop taunt and take another power in there such as aid self or hasten.
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Will try it out when I can earn a respec :P ... How to slot CE? 3 Slow, 1 End Red?
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Will try it out when I can earn a respec :P ... How to slot CE? 3 Slow, 1 End Red?
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Not sure on that sorry bub, didint take CE dude to newbiness but i will be in a levels time with a repsec more than likely . but that sounds about right.
My planned build (made her today, currently at 7).
Going heavily for defense from pool powers. Few attacks, I am mainly a meat sheild.
Anyone know for sure if Weave stacks with the defense from Ice Armors?
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Ice Valkyrie
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Super Strength
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01) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(1)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(13)
01) --> Jab==> Dmg(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(7)EndRdx(17)
02) --> Punch==> Dmg(2)Dmg(3)Dmg(9)EndRdx(11)Rechg(13)Rechg(15)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(4)Slow(17)
06) --> Boxing==> Dmg(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(9)EndRdx(11)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)Jump(15)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(10)
12) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> EndRdx(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Tough==> EndRdx(22)DmgRes(23)DmgRes(25)DmgRes(25)
24) --> Taunt==> Taunt(24)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(37)EndMod(37)
28) --> Rage==> Rechg(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(29)TH_Buf(31)TH_Buf(31)TH_Buf(33)
30) --> Weave==> EndRdx(30)DefBuf(31)DefBuf(33)DefBuf(33)
32) --> Icicles==> Acc(32)Dmg(34)Dmg(34)
35) --> Maneuvers==> EndRdx(35)DefBuf(36)DefBuf(36)DefBuf(36)
38) --> Foot Stomp==> Dmg(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)
41) --> Block of Ice==> Empty(41)
44) --> Chilblain==> Empty(44)
47) --> Hibernate==> Empty(47)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
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What is this taunt rubbish? With plain CE I'm keeping aggro fine in 8-man teams with multiple blasters... Taunt is a waste of slot
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I agree, ive been teaming with him and his CE goodness , i would say drop taunt and take another power in there such as aid self or hasten.
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Will try it out when I can earn a respec :P ... How to slot CE? 3 Slow, 1 End Red?
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EDIT: 6666 posts....is that bad?
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What is this taunt rubbish? With plain CE I'm keeping aggro fine in 8-man teams with multiple blasters... Taunt is a waste of slot
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I agree, ive been teaming with him and his CE goodness , i would say drop taunt and take another power in there such as aid self or hasten.
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Will try it out when I can earn a respec :P ... How to slot CE? 3 Slow, 1 End Red?
[/ QUOTE ]Slow will mean enemies will move towards you slower, bad when you're trying to get them bunched together. I went for 1 EndRdx.
EDIT: 6666 posts....is that bad?
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Meh, just added 2 slots in it at 11...
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Yes means you have more than me.
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My planned build (made her today, currently at 7).
Going heavily for defense from pool powers. Few attacks, I am mainly a meat sheild.
Anyone know for sure if Weave stacks with the defense from Ice Armors?
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Ice Valkyrie
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Super Strength
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01) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(1)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(5)DefBuf(13)
01) --> Jab==> Dmg(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(7)EndRdx(17)
02) --> Punch==> Dmg(2)Dmg(3)Dmg(9)EndRdx(11)Rechg(13)Rechg(15)
04) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(4)Slow(17)
06) --> Boxing==> Dmg(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(9)EndRdx(11)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)Jump(15)
10) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(10)
12) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Glacial Armor==> EndRdx(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Tough==> EndRdx(22)DmgRes(23)DmgRes(25)DmgRes(25)
24) --> Taunt==> Taunt(24)
26) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(26)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)DefBuf(34)DefBuf(37)EndMod(37)
28) --> Rage==> Rechg(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(29)TH_Buf(31)TH_Buf(31)TH_Buf(33)
30) --> Weave==> EndRdx(30)DefBuf(31)DefBuf(33)DefBuf(33)
32) --> Icicles==> Acc(32)Dmg(34)Dmg(34)
35) --> Maneuvers==> EndRdx(35)DefBuf(36)DefBuf(36)DefBuf(36)
38) --> Foot Stomp==> Dmg(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)
41) --> Block of Ice==> Empty(41)
44) --> Chilblain==> Empty(44)
47) --> Hibernate==> Empty(47)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
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Where for the love of all that is holy is Hoarfrost? Get that badboy in early, and 6 slot it. (3recharge, 3 heal)
Get that in asap, as that really needs to be in there.
Oh, my build (with some thanks to Unthing who put me right on some things)
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Name: euchanator respec
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Super Strength
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01) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(3) DefBuf(3) EndRdx(15)
01) --> Jab==> Acc(1) EndRdx(15) Dmg(46)
02) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(2) Taunt(19)
04) --> Haymaker==> Acc(4) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Dmg(9) Rechg(45) Rechg(46)
06) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(6) Rechg(7) Rechg(7) Heal(9) Heal(17) Heal(17)
08) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(37)
10) --> Taunt==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) Taunt(11) Range(36) Range(36) Taunt(36)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14) Run(46)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16) Jump(45) Jump(45)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18) Heal(19) Heal(37)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Knockout Blow==> Acc(22) Dmg(23) Dmg(23) Dmg(27)
24) --> Glacial Armor==> DefBuf(24) DefBuf(25) DefBuf(25)
26) --> Icicles==> EndRdx(26) EndRdx(27) EndRdx(33) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Dmg(34)
28) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(28) Rechg(29) Rechg(29) DefBuf(31) DefBuf(31) DefBuf(31)
30) --> Rage==> Rechg(30) Rechg(33) Rechg(33) TH_Buf(40) TH_Buf(40) TH_Buf(42)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32) Heal(37)
35) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(35)
38) --> Foot Stomp==> Acc(38) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Rechg(40)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(41) EndRdx(42) EndRdx(42) TH_Buf(43) TH_Buf(43) TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Super Jump==> Jump(44)
47) --> Hand Clap==> Acc(47) DisDur(48) DisDur(48) DisDur(48)
49) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(49) Dmg(50) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Gauntlet==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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What is this taunt rubbish? With plain CE I'm keeping aggro fine in 8-man teams with multiple blasters... Taunt is a waste of slot
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I agree, ive been teaming with him and his CE goodness , i would say drop taunt and take another power in there such as aid self or hasten.
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Will try it out when I can earn a respec :P ... How to slot CE? 3 Slow, 1 End Red?
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EDIT: 6666 posts....is that bad?
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Yes... *suddenly notices Max grow horns and a tail and the air get very HOT* ermm me be going now.. *runz*
Are there many Ice/SS tankers out there? and if so any advice :P got one at 8 atm...