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Ice/energy tank for pvp

bigboy_EU

By bigboy_EU,
Posted on: 2006-06-28 18:17 in Tankers

 

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woops wrong build, ill post the right one soon

 

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) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(3) DefBuf(3) EndRdx(13)
01) --> Barrage==> Acc(1)
02) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(2) Slow(33) Slow(34) Slow(34)
04) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(4) Rechg(5) Rechg(5) Heal(13) Heal(15) Heal(17)
06) --> Taunt==> Rechg(6) Rechg(7) Rechg(7) Taunt(9) Taunt(9) Taunt(15)
08) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(8)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) Rechg(11)
12) --> Permafrost==> DmgRes(12) DmgRes(43)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16) Jump(17) Jump(25)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18) Heal(19) Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Glacial Armor==> DefBuf(22) DefBuf(23) DefBuf(23) EndRdx(25)
24) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(24) Jump(37)
26) --> Bone Smasher==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Rechg(34)
28) --> Super Jump==> Jump(28)
30) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(30) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) EndMod(31) EndMod(33) EndMod(33)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32) Heal(40) Heal(46)
35) --> Energy Transfer==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Total Focus==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Build Up==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) TH_Buf(42) TH_Buf(43) TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) EndRdx(45) TH_Buf(45) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(46)
47) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50)

there we go

 

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Permafrost ain't really worth the power IMO and for PvP taunt now need Accuracy enhance to hit someone..

 

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You probably don't need Conserve Power as Energy Absorbtion is supposed to be quite effective.

Here's what I'm working towards, more of a zone PVP/Fun build, that's why i don't have the Energy Mastery Epic.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Cryo Kid
Level: 50
Archetype: Tanker
Primary: Ice Armor
Secondary: Energy Melee
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01) --> Frozen Armor ==> DefBuf| DefBuf| DefBuf| EndRdx
01) --> Barrage ==> Acc| Acc
02) --> Hoarfrost ==> Heal| Heal| Heal| Rechg| Rechg| Rechg
04) --> Bone Smasher ==> Acc| Acc| Dmg| Dmg| Dmg| Rechg
06) --> Chilling Embrace ==> EndRdx| EndRdx| Slow| Slow
08) --> Wet Ice ==> EndRdx
10) --> Hasten ==> Rechg| Rechg| Rechg
12) --> Hurdle ==> Jump| Jump| Jump
14) --> Super Speed ==> Run| EndRdx
16) --> Taunt ==> Rechg| Rechg| Rechg| Taunt| Acc| Acc
18) --> Swift ==> Run
20) --> Stamina ==> EndMod| EndMod| EndMod
22) --> Combat Jumping ==> Jump| Jump
24) --> Permafrost ==> DmgRes
26) --> Glacial Armor ==> DefBuf| DefBuf| DefBuf| EndRdx
28) --> Energy Absorbtion ==> Rechg| Rechg| Rechg| EndMod| EndMod| EndMod
30) --> Build Up ==> Rechg| Rechg| Rechg| TH_Buf
32) --> Hibernate ==> Rechg| Rechg| Rechg| Heal| Heal| EndMod
35) --> Energy Transfer ==> Acc| Acc| Dmg| Dmg| Dmg| Rechg
38) --> Total Focus ==> Acc| Acc| Dmg| Dmg| Dmg| Rechg
41) --> Chilblain ==> Acc| Acc| Acc| Rechg
44) --> Ice Blast ==> Acc| Acc| Dmg| Dmg| Dmg| Rechg
47) --> Health ==> Heal| Heal| Heal
49) --> Super Jump ==> Jump| EndRdx
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01) --> Sprint ==> Empty
01) --> Brawl ==> Empty
02) --> Rest ==> Empty
01) --> Gauntlet ==> Empty
01) --> Power Quick ==> Empty
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I might go 2 jump in SJ and 2 acc 2 recharge in Chilblain for spamming purposes. I need to experiment with those before deciding. Only about lv 10 now though

 

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doesn't perma frost make you imune to slow, it's a must have.

 

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doesn't perma frost make you imune to slow, it's a must have.

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You already get resistance to slow from both wet ice and energy absorption and with only one of the two I can run trough CoT Quicksands without even noticing.
Permafrost is anything but a must have.
You may want to read this guide to get info from a PvPer that uses this same FotM build.

 

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Since when is ice/energy fotm in pvp, i barley see any, if anything invulnur/energy melee is more fotm.

 

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Since when is ice/energy fotm in pvp, i barley see any, if anything invulnur/energy melee is more fotm.

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You don't see many because everyone's levelling them now, you can find shedloads of Ice/* tankers around and a good percentage of them are energy meleers.
Just look at this forum: 6 out of the first 11 posts are about Ice tankers, 3 of wich are about Ice/Nrg tankers...

 

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doesn't perma frost make you imune to slow, it's a must have.

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You already get resistance to slow from both wet ice and energy absorption and with only one of the two I can run trough CoT Quicksands without even noticing.
Permafrost is anything but a must have.
You may want to read this guide to get info from a PvPer that uses this same FotM build.

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One application of slow resistance is enough for PVE, but I've found that people in PVP try to stack effects. A single application of slow resistance won't help you then. I've found myself slowed on my SR scrapper in PVP, while i've never had that happpen to me in PVE. Having 3 forms of slow resistance in PVP is therefore quite handy. Not many people will be able to stack through that. As an Ice Tank, you should be the one that controls the slowing in a fight, not the other way around.

That is ofcourse assuming that the slow res from Wet Ice, Permafrost and Energy Absorbtion stacks, which I can't confirm at my current level.

 

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Since when is ice/energy fotm in pvp, i barley see any, if anything invulnur/energy melee is more fotm.

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You don't see many because everyone's levelling them now, you can find shedloads of Ice/* tankers around and a good percentage of them are energy meleers.
Just look at this forum: 6 out of the first 11 posts are about Ice tankers, 3 of wich are about Ice/Nrg tankers...

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Because all other sets have been discussed before and have several guides going?

Sidenote, the whole slow resist, does this include the -recharge of most -slow powers too?

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Since when is ice/energy fotm in pvp, i barley see any, if anything invulnur/energy melee is more fotm.

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You don't see many because everyone's levelling them now, you can find shedloads of Ice/* tankers around and a good percentage of them are energy meleers.
Just look at this forum: 6 out of the first 11 posts are about Ice tankers, 3 of wich are about Ice/Nrg tankers...

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Because all other sets have been discussed before and have several guides going?

Sidenote, the whole slow resist, does this include the -recharge of most -slow powers too?

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yes it does

 

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Since when is ice/energy fotm in pvp, i barley see any, if anything invulnur/energy melee is more fotm.

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You don't see many because everyone's levelling them now, you can find shedloads of Ice/* tankers around and a good percentage of them are energy meleers.
Just look at this forum: 6 out of the first 11 posts are about Ice tankers, 3 of wich are about Ice/Nrg tankers...

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Damn bandwagon jumpers! I remember back in the good old days...(goes into grandad rant).

 

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I think you should always slot for full potential. EG, put 3 dmgs in all attacks (Laser Beam Eyes), and 3 rchs in certain powers (eg Conserve Power)

 

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) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(3) DefBuf(3) EndRdx(13)
01) --> Barrage==> Acc(1)
02) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(2) Slow(33) Slow(34) Slow(34)
04) --> Hoarfrost==> Rechg(4) Rechg(5) Rechg(5) Heal(13) Heal(15) Heal(17)
06) --> Taunt==> Rechg(6) Rechg(7) Rechg(7) Taunt(9) Taunt(9) Taunt(15)
08) --> Wet Ice==> EndRdx(8)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) Rechg(11)
12) --> Permafrost==> DmgRes(12) DmgRes(43)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16) Jump(17) Jump(25)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18) Heal(19) Heal(19)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Glacial Armor==> DefBuf(22) DefBuf(23) DefBuf(23) EndRdx(25)
24) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(24) Jump(37)
26) --> Bone Smasher==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Rechg(34)
28) --> Super Jump==> Jump(28)
30) --> Energy Absorbtion==> Rechg(30) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) EndMod(31) EndMod(33) EndMod(33)
32) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(32) Heal(40) Heal(46)
35) --> Energy Transfer==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Dmg(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Total Focus==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Build Up==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) TH_Buf(42) TH_Buf(43) TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) EndRdx(45) TH_Buf(45) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(46)
47) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50)

there we go

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You intend to kill stuff with Barrage until L26?

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it's a respected 50 build, not that i have a level 50 ice/energy tanker lol.