Valerika

Mission Accomplished.

Actually, it would be funny if you could customize the words. Instead of "BIFF!", "ZAPPO!", "KAPOW" AND "FREEM"...I'd like to make pop-ups that say "LAME!", "PWNED!", and "RUTABAGA!". The dream lives on...

EDIT: Also "BOOBS!"...can you actually believe I thought about this and then had to come back and post it? I just couldn't help myelf. I kept seeing the word in big colorful Adam West's Batman style balloons, complete with soundtrack.

Not enough of them, and even when they do, people assume they're male. I was on a team with my girlfriend the other day, and while we were playing, I asked her in team chat if she had any dresses like one her character wore. I heard all kinds of "How do you know she's a girl?" etc. I didn't want to tell the truth, which was that I knew she was female because I'd seen her with her pants down.

Moral of the story--women play the game (I know, I've seen them), but no one believes this to be the case.

I'm still waiting for the new contribution you have to make in this thread, other than "You don't want it, but I DO." If you want this "feature" so badly, then the burden of introducing a way for it work without upseting the playerbase rests on you. Instead, all you've done is take issue with the way our debate was conducted. Either futher your cause by making a suggestion, or admit you have no point.

I don't have to make an appeal to the majority--my opinion is shared by that majority. If my opinion (that PvP should be confined to the PvP zones) weren't shared by a large majority of the people in this game, PvP zones would be filled. The developers would be expending massive effort to appeal to all the throngs of PvP'ers. That's not the case. The PvP zones are empty. The developers have stated that they will not make PvP more invasive into PvE, and threads like this meet with resistance reserved for ideas that are wildly unpopular. Just accept that--painting me as a lone wolf on this just makes you look foolish.

I also like designing builds. I also enjoy occasional PvP when the mood hits me. But your lack of interest in the rest of the game:
has been made pretty clear.

I agree--by all means discuss it. Because you seem a lot more interested in discussing ME than you do your idea. I'm all for PvP improvements, but this has to be one of the worst suggestions in order to do that for several reasons, including:

1. It would dilute an already thin PvP population over all the zones, emptying the already next to useless PvP zones. Instead of a place to go where PvP was expected, PvP'ers would hear a constant stream of "Leave me alone, I'm not interested." and "I'm not here to PvP."
2. It would upset the majority of the playerbase, which has no desire to see PvP intrude upon PvE play.

Now, if you're done taking offense and are ready to debate the merits of your "idea", you're welcome to start there.

Wow. That's really cool! I think I need to read the RP section more often now--it's spawning good ideas for PvE content.

It's not necessary to interview every single CoH user. You can get a good representative sample by:

1. Reading older PvP threads like this one and counting those in favor and against.
2. Datamining the PvP zones
3. Sending out a survey
I doubt you'd need to do any of those things though-I think you're already aware how unpopular this idea is.
If you want people to fill out a survey or take a vote before you believe the majority of the people in this game prefer not to have worldwide PvP or /duel, be my guest.
And I know a bunch of people who enjoy everything this game has to offer already, and would be pissed enough to leave if they changed THAT-one of those people being myself. We all know people. Unfortunately, more people disagree with this idea than agree with it. And really, even the ones who do agree with it know it would only improve their QoL slightly, but totally ruin it for many others. That's not a fair bargain.
And I competely agree. This extends to PvP--I do think a lot of things about PvP in this game could be improved, and should be. The nerfs and changes to PvP have upset a lot of people and rightfully so. As for PvP'ers claims that developers don't focus on PvP--they're right. They don't. They focus on other areas of the game that have broader appeal. Trying to focus on PvP isn't cost effective, because PvP'ers represent such a small section of the playerbase. That doesn't mean the devs don't care, it just means they're trying to appeal to as many people as possible, and sometimes smaller groups fall through the cracks.
As long as PvP stays in the PvP zones, I'm eager to watch it improve so that it will appeal to more players. But if you really do care about improving PvP in this game, the last thing you should be asking for is worldwide PvP or dueling. For one, the PvP population is already thin as it is. Spreading it out over the entire game would make the PvP zones even more worthless and empty than they are now. It also has the major added bonus of upsetting the majority of players who want nothing to do with PvP. I'm sorry--the idea is a failure all around. If you want PvP improved, more power to you, but this isn't the way to go about it.

You know what's really getting old? Your strategy of dismissing arguements without actually addressing them, and then pretending to take offense. If you were really as unable to take criticism as you pretend to be, you would be ill-suited for PvP--I don't buy it. I highly doubt that when I describe you as dismissive and selfish that you are wounded to your core.

The majority of the players in this game are quite good at determining what is and isn't in the best interest in the game--your double xp example fits perfectly. The idea was debated and rejected because most of the players recognized the damage that would do to the game. Democratic systems don't by nature lead to everyone voting themselves more ice cream. We're smart enough to know what's in our own best interest. As for the devs, Positron has demonstrated a "give the players what they want" attitude that has given us things like AE, power customization, proliferation, the ability to see the numbers for our powers, the science booster, etc. It's worked out pretty well. I'm sorry if you prefered devs like Statesman dictating their "vision" without player input, but that's not the way things are run anymore.

You can't really claim to be a part of a community if you hold it in disdain and have no problems making it miserable to further your own gains. Case in point:

You "despised everything else about the game". That may give you credibility among the dwindling PvP population, but it certainly doesn't earn you any points among the majority. Calling you an outsider isn't an insult, it's being generous. It's very, very clear that you don't have any interest in improving CoH beyond your narrow interests. The things you despise about CoH are the things that draw everyone else.

Yes, I have a pro-CoH bias. It's clear (as illustrated above) that you are completely biased against it to the point of *hatred*. Which bias is stronger? Which one is more potentially detrimental to the game?

Here's a shocker--the PvP system is ALREADY configured in a way to minimize the impact on other players. Any changes to that system would make PvP more invasive into the PvE game.


You fail at comprehension. Let me give you an example. Let's say you're playing in a game where they have worldwide PvP, and someone is trying to goad you into fighting over and over again. As a result, you log off in disgust. Would you say that you HATE that player? I doubt it. If you hated them, you'd probably try to track them down. Instead, you just log off in disgust. I'm sure the offending player WANTS you to hate them, but that's giving them too much credit. It's possible to be highly discontented without hating someone or something. Much like I don't hate you--I find your selfishness and dismissive nature annoying, but I don't HATE you. Or PvP for that matter.

Can't be done, and you know it. The current system is the best compromise available.

Here's the thing--I'm a big believer in majority rule. People who advocate robbing the masses to pay the minority obviously don't care about the CoH community. You knowlingly advocate a position so selfish that the only way they can get their way is by circumventing the wishes of everyone else.

If you ask for something that you KNOW would cause misery to a large number of people in order make a very small group of people a little happier, then you have no sense of community. The very point of boards like this is to foster that community and help improve the game by making it more fun for the most people possible. When you, or someone like you, proposes an idea that upsets more people than it pleases, you show blatant disregard for that community. Sometimes, for the health of the game, you have to bite the bullet and accept that your idea would do more harm than good. If you don't, and you keep advocating an idea that has widespread disapproval, then it's clear you care more about yourself than making CoH more fun for everyone. In other words, you're already an outsider to the CoH community by choice. Telling you to take a hike would be redundant.

Which is the best definition of "/duel" I can think of.

Very true, and I support those changes becaue they would make the PvP'ers happy without affecting the PvE'ers in the slightest. The part you fail to grasp is that these requests for changes were to be made WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE PVP ZONES where they BELONG.