UberGuy

Yep, I've gotten Hybrid on 2 50s. 9 more to go!

I have completed the trial on 10 of my 11 50s. I forgot to do a non-farm run on my Night Widow. >.<

Spending that time doing full completion runs is why I haven't unlocked it on more 50s, though.

I really don't think it is. I think it's only related to his current HP.

Edit: To be extremely specific, Tyrant has a power called [Favor of the Well]. Here's what that power does.

(1 - minmax(source.Cur.kHitPoints / source.Max.kHitPoints, 0, 0.5) / 0.5) * 3.5 Regeneration for 2.25s

This is only in effect if his current HP are below 50% of max.

(This power also sets the flag which strips him of his ability to summon new Olympian Guards if his HP go below 40%.)

He has no other personal powers that heal him or increase his regen rate. I can't find any powers seemingly related to the trial that would do so which aren't personal powers of the Tyrant critter, such as zone-wide powers.

I believe the hints about his capturing your soul are purely to explain the barrier mechanism in the hospital. I don't think we should read too much into this - it's just a variation on the hospital timer we find in the other trials that have hospitals. (Folks did notice that there's no timer and pop-up "trials are dangerous!" message, right? It's been replaced with the decaying health of the soul barrier, which is a much better conceit, IMO.) There is only one power I can find related to this is called "Release Soul", and all it does is control where you teleport, depending on whether the cutscene has played or not. (If it hasn't played, it needs to send you to the pre-devastation Magisterium, etc.)

The problem with this observation is that it does not clearly suggest what you're saying it does. If he is at any given health level that's below 50% of his max health, his regen increases. If he kills a bunch of stuff, the DPS on him drops. If the DPS on him drops, his regen gets to raise his HP faster. If his HP level goes up, his favor decreases, because it's related to how far below 50% of max his HP is.

I honestly don't think killing people directly affects his favor at all. I don't think people going to the hospital affects you at all.

Uh, no offense, but I've been running this a lot. There's no version of this trial where his regen does not become very high, because it's directly related to how low you get his HP. Again, this is not speculation.

Loosely, yes. The devs were planning a system of some sort, and felt allowing full 200% or more enhancement was a barrier to it. Note that back then the Invention System as we know it now was not even designed on paper, but they were working on something loosely related which they eventually abandoned. I think it took a couple of iterations before we got what we know of today as Inventions.

"Listening" to feedback does not mean that you always do what was suggested by that feedback. This gets cast in this light frequently, but it's an unfair characterization. "You didn't do what I suggested" isn't the same thing as "you didn't listen to my suggestion."

I see no evidence of this at all. Do we have any dev statement to this effect?

He has no power listed which does this. His Regen is very explicitly only a function of his HP, and this in particular is not speculation.

I have also seen him defeat several people and not had his health spike in any way not explained by his high regen. So I very much question this description.

Because people are so reasonable about other things they can fail, right?

The only difference here is that it's also so easily farmed and the only thing that gives Hybrid XP. If there was a reason for people to have farmed the Underground, people would have in a heartbeat.

Your expectations were set by a placeholder version of the internet, which has been replaced by a different one that was intended all along.

How cool would it be if that could actually happen?

I really don't think it feels like that, though. A massive sack of HP has a HP bar that just creeps along. At risk of making it sound like a jovial thing, this feels more like tug-of-war. You can get Tyrant's HP to the 30% mark pretty easily, and then it bounces around between around 20% and 40% as you continue to fight him. Yes, the fight can be long, but it's much more manic than just beating on something with tons of HP.

I can't find anything to substantiate things I see said often in-game by leaders.

• Dying heals Tyrant.
• Being hit by lighting heals Tyrant.

Nothing in the detailed descriptions of his powers suggest either of these things is true. I strongly suspect that what is happening is that when people die or when they have to run away from his lightning, DPS drops, and if Tyrant is at low HP, his correspondingly high regen causes his HP to spike very soon after the DPS applied to him drops.

He does feed off of his Olympians. It does not look as if that heals him, however. It boosts toHit and damage, though, and his KB (heh). He stops summoning Olympians if he's brought below 40% of his max HP.

Other info about him:

His eyebeam sweep has several unusual debuffs, but only to the following:

• Blasters
• Scrappers
• Brutes
• Stalkers
• Khelds
• Soldiers of Arachnos

These ATs suffer -20% damage, -10% heal, and -10% def for 25s when hit by his beam sweep.

The flow lightning deals energy damage, but also applies stacking -resistance to energy damage. That's why standing in it is quite so bad.

Amusingly, when he is deflated and loses his connection to the well, all his normal powers are stripped from him and he's given [Brawl]. =D

You may have missed this earlier in the thread, but the Lights do nothing to Tyrant. His regeneration is only a function of his current HP. How many Lights are on have nothing to do with it.

The Lights are supposed to suppress level shifts granted to players, so that when all lights are out, everyone (in theory) is +6. This doesn't seem to be working right.

Edit: I have noticed the damage after the visual for the flow lightning fades, and do agree that's quite frustrating. I wouldn't complain one bit if they fixed that.

I am NOT ignoring that. I never once anywhere in that post claimed that "we" was everyone. It pisses me off to no end that you'd be so damn childish that you assume I would take that stance.

"The crew I run with" is not who I do all iTrials with. If I'm lucky, 2-3 of them are on most trials with me. And I can't accept that everyone on Justice is twinked out and IO'd to the gills, because I know better. So frankly, whether or not "the crew I run with" can faceroll battles with Reichsman is largely irrelevant to the question of whether iTrials like the Magesterium are too hard.

Let me ask you: do you suspect I'm some CoH prodigy? Because I sure don't. When I play, I just do stuff that I think makes sense. That's basically it. I'm not doing anything brilliant. I'm using common sense mixed with game knowledge. And that's what "the crew I run with" is about. It's people who, generally speaking, do intelligent stuff when playing the game. If we can do these things, anyone can. So why aren't they? What's the problem?

What I see too often for my tastes is people who do stuff that I'll just say doesn't seem like common sense. When they do it and it works, then I figure they know something I don't. When they do it and it goes horribly wrong, I try to help them by suggesting a course that seems more like common sense. And if they refuse to accept that advise and still fail, then I deem them dumb and want little more to do with them. Most people don't fall into that unfortunate latter category, but there are enough of them that I don't enjoy pugging as a rule.

In a heartbeat I forgive people who lack my game knowledge. I've been here eight years and change, and I do dig into the game, so it would be ridiculous of me to assume every Joe and Jane knows all the crap I do. Some people wear their ignorance like armor, but most seem willing to learn if you offer them knowledge. But knowledge and what they do with it are two different things.

If people do sensible things, this game is usually very easy. I attribute the vast majority of things that are "hard" to people approaching them either in ignorance of how they work, which is forgivable (to a point) or with really bad tactics, which I am less prone to forgive.

No, they don't.

The players just play as if they do.

When you don't have IOs, you need to play smart. You need to pay attention to your team composition, and people need to not run off and try to solo spawns of Trial mobs without help. People need to move together and not create a train of members when they need to travel quickly. They need to be buffed and healed by appropriate characters, and they need to stay in range of the buffers and healers.

If people always had bubbler/shielders, always had a good meatshield, always had backup healing, and always traveled around in supportable formations, they wouldn't need IOs. Self fulfilling prophecy, because many players like playing the lone wolf, they get IOs so they don't have to play that way.

What IOs do is lower the degree to which everyone needs buffs, heals, aggro management in general - in other words, help from teammates. Lots of players play as if everyone needs no help, because they don't need help and assume no one else does either. This is what creates perception some have that IOs are required, not the devs. Because the way the core of a league or team plays often results in everyone else to get less support than they might need if they have a plain SO build.