Tripp Hazzard

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So shiny and after he/she typed in all that bio information too.

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You seem to have forgotten people can copy/paste now Taking the word "ripoff" to a whole new level. I googled for half the first sentence in quotation and found the entire passage nearly verbatim.

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LOL, I didn't even notice that it's a direct copy from the wiki!

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Man, that makes it even more pathetic. Was a great costume, but yeah, I would have /petitioned without a second though.

EDIT: What are the odds that it's yet another Marvel employee scoping out the game...

[/ QUOTE ]See, that's my thought on some of these, too.

The circumstances make it less likely for this one, but I wouldn't be surprised if they regularly check to see how long obvious ripoffs last.

I use the "if *I* recognize it, it's obvious" rule myself. I only know the best-known comic book characters, so if I see it and know immediately who they're copying, it's WAY over the line.

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Yes, I think that would be a very good thing to have. Really as long as there IS prestige banked, I can't even imagine why it's an issue that we have to log on and pay up - no one uses that old fashioned method in real life any more, do they?

[/ QUOTE ]You realize, though, that you'd probably have to pay every four weeks instead of six? You can't delay an auto payment past the due date in real life, they probably wouldn't allow it in the game, either.

Other than that, /signed.

Sounds quite reasonable.

I'm in civvies, so this is an ununiformed response.

It depends on the story.

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I think the system is in place because it borrowed from the TF code...

Also, do we really NEED another thread about this? There is, after all, an official thread for these types of conversations.

[/ QUOTE ]And it's dominated by the Anti-Positron Pro-Unlimited-Powerleveling crowd, making actual discussion in that thread all but impossible.

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Now, now Tripp.

[/ QUOTE ] I didn't say "completely impossible". You and I had a perfectly civil discussion just today. But it is impossible to discuss anything that is perceived as Pro Dev or Anti MArch Powerleveling, due primarily to the behavior of several of the Anti-Dev Crowd.

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I think the system is in place because it borrowed from the TF code...

Also, do we really NEED another thread about this? There is, after all, an official thread for these types of conversations.

[/ QUOTE ]And it's dominated by the Anti-Positron Pro-Unlimited-Powerleveling crowd, making actual discussion in that thread all but impossible.

The loss of a loved one is rough, regardless of species. You have my sympathies.

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Cynical, I don't know either. I think any kind of access to both markets (even through a third common market) will cause quite a bit of "upset" for a while. Limiting access would, I think, spread it out over a longer period, making it less disruptive over all.

I'm hoping the Market Gurus will weigh in.

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I don't really see it doing much. It's not as if there aren't a lot of people who are significantly wealthy who have or could easily get characters over level 35.

If you have the inf and want something from the other side on a higher-level character, all you have to do to bypass that limitation is have a level 35+ character. You use that character to buy what you want from whatever side is cheaper and give it to the lowbie.

As a result, I don't see this doing much to damp market fluctuations. All the players who will cause the biggest fluctuations would be unaffected except by the increased fees.

As a note, I suspect that it would mostly be villains footing the increased fees as you describe them, unless you charged sellers more at collection time - something I think players would significantly resent. ("I got less than I planned for because a villain bought it!") That leaves the increased fee to be footed by the buyer, and I don't think a lot of heroes are going to need to go looking on the Black Market for price deals.

I think a conversion rate would probably be a wiser course. When you pay X on the opposite market, it looks to the seller like X*C, where C is the conversion rate from your inf to theirs. This won't change the fluctuations that would result from supply and demand shifts, but it will damp the changes in currency value.

The downside to a conversion rate is all in the implementation. My feeling is that I would not trust it to an algorithm, but I'm also not sure I trust the devs to appropriately maintain it "manually".

[/ QUOTE ]You'd choose which market you wanted to access when you clicked on the terminal. If you're accessing the opposite market, you'd get a warning that you would pay higher posting fees. The postings themselves would not be cross-market.

I suggested RWZ primarily because you don't have to do anything special to access the zone. If the terminals were inside the base, you wouldn't even have to face any of the hazards. I also thought the level 35 limit would help moderate any "upheavals", but you're right, that's not much of an actual limit.

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I'm a market idiot, but wouldn't level locking the ability to access both markets just cause more instability redside?

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don't pay any attention to Tripp, he only makes sense on accident.

[/ QUOTE ]Nice, Nethergoat, very mature and noble, especially when you put me on ignore rather than answer challenges to your arguments.

Cynical, I don't know either. I think any kind of access to both markets (even through a third common market) will cause quite a bit of "upset" for a while. Limiting access would, I think, spread it out over a longer period, making it less disruptive over all.

I'm hoping the Market Gurus will weigh in.

How about this, which would still allow eventually merging them, if that's desirable:

Instead of adding additional markets (with additional software, and possibly even additional hardware), put terminals that allow access to both WW's and the Black Market in the RWZ base. Charge extra for using the opposite side's market (influence sink). You'd have to select which one you wanted when you access the terminal, to keep it simple.

The level limit would help ameliorate "upheavals", as would the extra surcharge.

For RP, well, in the game canon, by level 35 you've learned that things aren't so black and white, and you're willing to work with the opposite side to battle the Rikti, so why not try to make a little money off the other side, too? If your RP concept objects to "supplying" the opposition, than only buy their stuff. If you object to giving them your money, then only sell. If you object to both, don't do either.

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i, too, have been on a bad team

here, let me tell you all about it in a way that makes me look both morally and intellectually superior:

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Hey, I enjoy reading about other peoples bad pugs ... Makes me know I'm not the only one

[/ QUOTE ]Ditto. For the same reason. And for the

"You have been eaten by a grue."

"/afk$$em waiting" gets you the first one, IIRC. Servers are down right now so I can't check.

If that doesn't work, try "/em waiting$$afk".

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06-15-2009 22:43:43 [BMT of Champion]debtlover: hey blueman?
06-15-2009 22:44:00 [BMT of Champion]Cobalt Azurean: That must be directed to me.
06-15-2009 22:44:03 [BMT of Champion]debtlover: i just spied yah doing MA monday. anyway you could do me a huge solid?
06-15-2009 22:44:11 [BMT of Champion]Cobalt Azurean: Depends.
06-15-2009 22:44:31 [BMT of Champion]Gigz Evolved: that sentence was full of all kinds of wrong images..

[/ QUOTE ]I can't decide which is better, Gigz' response, or Cob's.

At least one more, so I can use three for each of my main's builds.

More than 6 would be even better

Separate slots for each build would also be nice.

All of the above for the win.

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People never use sarcasm on the internet.

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That's because the internet is srs bsns.

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(SOMEONE had to say it . . . )

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"Why did Email turn red?"

[/ QUOTE ]LOL! /em hat tip

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for new players who leveled 1-50 in MArch.

Something that covers the basics, like:

<ul type="square">[*]How to level up and get more powers.
[*]How to get and use enhancements.
[*]What else there is to do at 50.
[*]What else there is to do at any level.
[*]How to get to other zones.
[*]How to join teams doing other types of missions, and how to get into the missions.
[*]Where to get more info (Paragon Wiki, and the Forums).[/list]
Keep it short and simple, so anyone who wants to can copy it, then email it to that new player asking "where's King's Row and how do I get there?"

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That's a great idea.

Where are going to post it, here? On the forums?

You don't see, maybe... uhh... a slight problem with that?

[/ QUOTE ]read the last line again.

Is it the same on "regular" teams? Logging prevents adding a replacement?

for new players who leveled 1-50 in MArch.

Something that covers the basics, like:

<ul type="square">[*]How to level up and get more powers.
[*]How to get and use enhancements.
[*]What else there is to do at 50.
[*]What else there is to do at any level.
[*]How to get to other zones.
[*]How to join teams doing other types of missions, and how to get into the missions.
[*]Where to get more info (Paragon Wiki, and the Forums).[/list]
Keep it short and simple, so anyone who wants to can copy it, then email it to that new player asking "where's King's Row and how do I get there?"

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Nay.

The holodeck addicts need at least a couple of reasons to venture out into the wider world.

[/ QUOTE ]Why? Give me 12 good reasons why we "have to" go "outside".

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1.) TF's
2.) Trials
3.) Tailor Shops
4.) Trainers
5.) Mothership Raids
6.) Hamidon Raids
7.) Cimerora
8.) Ouroboros
9.) Super Groups
10.) Accolades
11.) Badges
12.) Costume Contests
13.) Role play
14.) Sunlight

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1-10 are good, but I can get badges inside, I don't do CCs or RP, and when was the last time you saw SUNLIGHT in Paragon City?

(I am impressed, though. I only came up with 8!)

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But to get some of the Accolades, you need to get specific badges that you can't get inside. So, badges count as a reason to go outside.

I see sunlight about every 10 or 15 minutes in Paragon City...unless I'm in a mission. Then I see florescent ceiling light that makes my eyes go all twitchy. Or was that the CoT boss trying to get "romantic"...

[/ QUOTE ]Curse your simple and inevitable logic!

Okay, badges is good.

I have to withdraw the "no sunlight" because trees and such do cast distinct shadows. Even though I see nothing but clouds when I look up, somehow that sun is getting through well enough to cast shadows.

Fine. (mutter, mutter, grumble, grumble) I'll go outside. BUT I REFUSE TO HAVE FUN!

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Nay.

The holodeck addicts need at least a couple of reasons to venture out into the wider world.

[/ QUOTE ]Why? Give me 12 good reasons why we "have to" go "outside".

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1.) TF's
2.) Trials
3.) Tailor Shops
4.) Trainers
5.) Mothership Raids
6.) Hamidon Raids
7.) Cimerora
8.) Ouroboros
9.) Super Groups
10.) Accolades
11.) Badges
12.) Costume Contests
13.) Role play
14.) Sunlight

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1-10 are good, but I can get badges inside, I don't do CCs or RP, and when was the last time you saw SUNLIGHT in Paragon City?

(I am impressed, though. I only came up with 8!)

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So where does the guy that randomly runs around in PvE buffing other players fit in?

[/ QUOTE ]Anywhere he wants, so long as it's not near me.

Technically, he's a Griefer, because he's reducing some people's enjoyment of the game. But he probably thinks he's being helpful, so I'd more likely just call him a Noing.

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Nay.

The holodeck addicts need at least a couple of reasons to venture out into the wider world.

[/ QUOTE ]Why? Give me 12 good reasons why we "have to" go "outside".

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Mid's doesn't help us Mac users who don't have access to Windows...

[/ QUOTE ]I believe one of the things they're looking into doing is getting Mids' working under Mono, which would then let you use it on a Mac or Linux box.

[/ QUOTE ]There's an online planner available here, along with Mids. It's not as awesome as Mids, but it's a lot better than nothing.