Tokyo

Originally Posted by Supermax

Only thing Virtue is good for is for allowing bad players to maintain huge egos. After they get owned on Freedom, they move to Virtue, do better because the competition is laughable, and then claim that Virtue is the better server.

Originally Posted by black_barrier

scrappers are laughable in 8v8s.

rad + 3 psi/ems = lolololuregin

Originally Posted by AstralRune

I've been playing the free trial this past week, and have decided to upgrade to full game within the next couple of days. I've really enjoyed being in Teams running missions or just having fun, and am now looking to find a SG that has members who like to team up for whatever (missions, raids, PvP, it's all in good fun!).
I have been playing on Protector, but am willing to start a character on any server (my highest level is only Lv 11, I'm not very far yet).

If anyone is willing to put up with some newbie with alot of questions and willingness to play the game (I'm planning on being in game at least a couple hours per day as I can be atm) let me know. I've played a couple heroes, but made a villain and am really enjoying that too, but either works for me atm to learn how to play the game!

My global handle is @Starlight Nova (I believe- my first character) or reply here with suggestions/offers and I'll check it while I'm installing fullgame!

Thank you all who've welcomed me so far, you are truly an awesome group of players!

Originally Posted by Xanatos

Hey Tokyo, didn't know you PVP'd.

Anyway, I had a feeling a lot of these concerns would come up. Here's how I understand it:

There's three types of events I'd like to see happen.

1. PVP for PVPers
This would be your typical Arena Fights that could be 2vs2, 6vs6, or even 8vs8 if we have enough people! I imagine this will be aimed more towards people who PVP a lot. For this reason I imagine this would be a very competitive type of event.

2. PVP for Casuals
This would be an event with less emphasis on stacked teams and more emphasis on casual players being able to take part without feeling left behind. This event will be aimed towards people with concept builds or PVE builds who'd like to try out PVP.

3. PVP for Fightclubbers / Duelers / Melee'ers
I've noticed there are a lot of players who like to play 1vs1 in melee and just duke it out street fighter style until one person dies. I'd like to create a "King of Iron Fist Tournament" style event for people who like to play melee vs melee.

And knowing me. If I was involved in any of these events then they'd probably have a story behind them. (Well...except the first type I suppose. )

Right now VPVP is gauging how much interest there is for PVP on Virtue. Having a central place to organise & run everything PVP related will improve communication. That's what the VPVP channel is all about. If any of the above event ideas sound like the sort of thing you'll be interested in then feel free to join the channel or send me a tell in game to @Xanatos.

Originally Posted by Emberly

Well I don't PVP but I wouldn't mind joining up and playing about, is that cool or do you want people with a modicum of experience and/or skill?

Originally Posted by Xanatos

Anyone still PVPing on Virtue please join the "VPVP" Channel. (Without quotations.)

We're looking at starting up regular 6vs6 teams & matches in the Arena.

There will also be some PVP related events in the future. (Zones events, Arena events, leagues, fightclub tournaments, etc.)

Seeya in game!

-Xan

Originally Posted by Sivitry

Hi all came back to this great game after being gone for a long long time, I can't shake the appeal of doms so I'm gonna make a go for it. Right now I think Mind looks awesomely fun and (from what I've read) is a great set. I also think that Plant looks equally entertaining, and again looks like a really solid set from what I've seen. I enjoy the control aspect of a dom a lot however I want my secondary to be synergistic and do a lot of damage. As of now this character is mostly going to be a solo toon, for PVE. So the question is secondaries. I am open to any suggestions for secondaries that would meld with Plant or Mind as a primary and do a lot of damage right now the builds I'm thinking about are: Plant/Thorn, Plant/Fiery, Plant/Psi OR Mind/Fire, Mind/Psi, Mind/Thorn.

Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by je_saist

exactly.

I've been over this before in multiple locations; here in the forums; on Gamenikki.com (still down as RawServe will not respond to emails or phone calls and the situation is turning ugly); and zerias.blogspot.com

The basic problem is that the PvE game is based on inherent imbalance. Each of the archtypes in the game is deliberately weak in some areas, and deliberately strong in other areas, which is to say they are inherently imbalanced. The imbalances drive the team-based combat of the PvE system where players should work together in order to over-come each other's weak spots. The need to balance the majority of the game content against a teaming experience is why the developers sometimes have to take drastic measures to halt a particular play-style or holy-grail goal that a segment of the player base pursues.

An inherently imbalanced game makes for a incredibly imbalanced PvP enviroment. If you look at all of the good multiplayer games, they are based on two basic design principles: At Some Level the players are equal :: Skill matters


This is complicated by the fact that the majority of players who participated in CoH PvP were not interested in good PvP play. They weren't interested in a balanced enviroment, and there stands a stark disconnect between the likes of Macskull and Conflict, and the actual development staff.

The PvPer's largely want OMGWTFBBQ, I GANKED U HARD IN THE @$$ IM AWSUM YU SUK MAH... I'm sure you can fill in the rest. Ergo, the PvPer's, or rather the vocal PvPer's on the forums, want an imbalanced enviroment similar to Ultima Online.

Well, thankfully, Castle and the rest of the development staff is smarter than that. Castle seems to have a handle on good PvP requiring that the PvP game be different from the PvE game. Issue 13 was a step in the right direction for where PvP play needs to go.

They have to be two different games in order to achieve their design goals. Unfortunately, those competing design goals mean that future PvP development just isn't likely.

Originally Posted by Smurphy

The data collected here is NOT...
accurate.
comprehensive.
scientific.
the whole story.
ideal.
a perfect representation.
a random sample.

I've collected the data in a spreadsheet. It's 16MB. I took screenshots of the market window for the item, cropped the picture, and then pasted it into a spreadsheet. The process went faster than you think and I was watching high quality Nickelodeon programming while I got things down. Link to the file hosted on a random file hosting site. Obviously, I hope to apply this data to the market merger discussion. It's an Open Office file. I'm open to posting other versions and having it hosted on other sites. Feel free to steal, change, alter, repost, plagiarize, or otherwise use the information there in any manner you feel like.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl

That's not the way they pick closed beta players - some will be chosen on purpose, but the rest will just be random, or based on something like the loyalty program idea

Originally Posted by Acemace

Now that's unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Acemace

Has this been mentioned in the thread, there's a tutorial in another game I play with the end result looking like this;




I'm not sure how long you could play something like that before going mad, or blind, but it would be unique at first.

Originally Posted by xeaon

I am the guy that agroo the AV (or AV's), before the team even zoned.
I am the guy who lag RV, with a so called all MM event, just to annoy you.
I am the zone killer.

You think i'm here to provide you with a team!
You think i'm here to provide you with a lead!
You think i'm here to provide you with an event!

You have been fooled, I'm here to make sure you get your debt badges.

*** start a air guitar solo ***

I am the Zone KIIIILLLERR!!!! link

*** Piano fall from the ceiling, and crash on me ***

End of story


Since this had no point at all, here a vid, so you feel like you havent wasted your time, reading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwmHo...eature=related


OK nevermind, i just wasted even more of your time.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

This is a prime example of choice 2 in my last post.

Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba

Or sit back and realize that **** happens, deal with it and if you can't, there's the door.

I'll stick with choice three.

Originally Posted by Lemur Lad

Thanks for telling me about beta tests I was there for. I disagree that most of those problems were easy to avoid though.

Originally Posted by Acemace

Not to wade knee deep into an i13 PvP debacle debate, but Castle has stated that his full measure of PvP changes were not green lighted due to time constraints, and he believed his complete slate of changes would be well received, or something to that effect, someone will post a link to his comments if it's important enough.

Originally Posted by Lemur Lad

And you think they don't try to balance stuff before they add it?

Here's the deal. No group of testers can try every variation. No dev or team of devs can anticipate what thousands of players will do with something once they have it.
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Originally Posted by VexXxa

Originally Posted by EmpireForgotten

I think if you take away the need for PvPers to grind and farm their way to pimped out builds, you would also eliminate alot of the influence coming in. PvPers aren't going to "twink" (good word use though, I like it) their toon for PvE because its not needed. PvE is freaking easy and playing for accolades is just as easy.


I think if you remove PvPers from any market equations...I think you will find the market to stabilize. So, your possible answers are:

Waste time programming a method to remove money from the game
or
Waste time programming a method to remove PvPers need to buyitnao from the market

Originally Posted by Dispari

This would be great if it were true. But it's not. I know three people, whose situations are:

1) Have been in every single closed beta from the beginning. Except they don't do a single bit of testing or file even one report or post any tidbit of feedback. In fact, sometimes they don't even log onto the test server. But get invited every single closed beta, including this one.

2) Was in numerous closed betas for a while, and gave lots of nice feedback and reported bugs and posted on the forum for each one. Then, suddenly, stopped getting closed beta invites somewhere around i13 and hasn't gotten once since.

3) Has never been in a closed beta except for the AE one and the DP one. Gave TONS of useful information, feedback, and some very big bug reports. During the AE beta did a lot of useful work and found some big issues. And has participated in numerous open betas and helped there too. Still has yet to get into any closed betas.

So I know people who don't log on at all who still get included every time, and people who work their fingers to the bone giving feedback and bug reports who don't get invited at all.

Originally Posted by Darrius

Can someone give me a reason why this shouldn't be Co-Op? You fight together against the greater evil . . Hamidon . . how is this not already Co-Op? Perhaps that would encourage more Hamidon Raids on the low population servers.

Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg

It wouldn't work because as you say there would be ways to get around it. If there are ways to avoid this fee, and the fee is high enough to matter, people will avoid it - and thus it won't work.

Hoarding is not bad for the market, if you consider another reason people might hoard stuff: they are waiting for a glut in the market to die down so they can sell their stuff at a profit. That's one of the reasons I have a ton of enhancements sitting around in my personal base. If I can't use them right now, or sell them at a profit, they will sit there until I can. Funny enough, that will most likely coincide with a time when there is a lack of these enhancements on the market, so by hoarding these things I am not just making money, I'm also making sure that there is a steady supply on the market.

Anyway, penalties is a bad idea that will only annoy people and, like you yourself admitted, will be easily circumvented. We already have a few "carrots" to make us want to sell more stuff. Trader badges for example, which grants us more market slots and inventory.

The best way to destroy Influence and reduce inflation is by offering something new and attractive for people to spend their Influence on. Just as an example: if we could buy purple recipes for 500 million or more from a store - even if just for a limited time - it would drastically reduce the amount of influence circulating in the game. The store could open up every time inflation was threatening to make the market stop working because too much is selling at or above the influence cap. That's about the easiest solution I can think of. I have a more complicated one posted earlier in this thread which would be more fun.

Originally Posted by Heroid

((Here's someone who can school you on giving the evil eye.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bRjnUqzseU