Tainted_Greek_EU

This is a VERY interesting thread.I am really lookin forward to see how Devs will handle it cause base raiding is supposingly part of the end game content they are bringing in the game.

Gz archy u jammy git (as G would have said )

might pop in with my troller or blaster to harass villains if they attack you dont know yet though

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I don't want discussion about right and wrong (note that the word exploit only exists in the topic), Id like all readers go ingame and /bug the cases mentioned here. That way problems may get fixed.

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Personally i agree 100% with you and wasnt referring to you Hammie just so you know.More to the OP.As for fixes well the fixes are known and 100000000 times suggested but well seems noone is listening.

-Make areas surrounded by drones to be tp-foe resistant

-Enhance defenses and drones range

-Make tp-foe work only in LoS (although i not like it based on the tp foe concept)

-Remove boxes from pvp zones or close them

-Give pvp a Code of Conduct

-Give PvP rules of engagement.

The last 2 points will also allow a better frame of behaviour and context within players and GM's will be able to petition and penalise respectively

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As I see it technically nothing is exploiting its just poor design/bad coding. Exploit is usually used by the devs to shift the onus of blame onto the player and not their work, after all if they coded and designed properly there would be nothing to exploit.

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Hahaha well thats a damn good explanation

Ok i will take a breath and explain this all again.

These are not exploits.This is design fault and the fact that the devs insist to not change this bad creation shows something.

The fact that there is no Code of Conduct and Rules of Engagement set by the Devs for this matter doesnt help also.It isnt even griefing unless is done consecutively and on purpose despite people being around.

However the Sirens call base is like an open invite to tpers.Why? Cause first of all 3range 3acc sloting allows direct tping from entrance of hospital without LoS from just behind the boat.It is open area and you are not breaking any game mechanics so these are actually viable and totally legal pvp maneuvers under current game design.

As for Bloody Bay boxes please dont open again the exploit thing is not an exploit.Is bad game design.I wish people stop cry exploit or cheat on things like this cause they are not.Is just people using their surroundings to the max.

Yes it is wrong meaning is not fair to not be safe inside your own base but hey the Devs allow it obviously.

PvP zones are hot and they are not milk and cookies areas really.They are not supposed to be.You cant walk around and not expect opposing players not using every trick in the book allowed (without breaking EULA).To me is same as saying "lets duel but dont use holds cause you are a controler"

Give us global pvp event!!!Give us capture the flag pvp zones instead of this pathetic PvE "win the zone" thing. Give us PvP rewards and a new decent ranking system not the pointless current one that doesnt make any difference. And yes if u wanna give us wings well at least make them drop MK-II bombs and Sidewinder anti aircraft missiles to drop other pigeon heroes off the air and make them more fun instead of just flapping!!!

Give Sechs the star me love Sechs!!!

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WTB endgame + pvp reward system !

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World of Warcraft $29.99

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I think he meant Prestige is gained from players defeating other players - like the bonus you get per enemy player in RV during the 5 minute downtime before the zone resets.

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Even so this type of rewards are totally irrelevant to pvp and give more reason for people to yell "go away we farm badges/prestige" in pvp zones

People need to think a bit out of the box.The usual arena matches are by now a bit of the same taste everywhere.I dont really know what others think i just say what i think. Tbh if i had the chance (which i dont due to my time being devoted to WoW end game and poping in coh for casualk fun) i would suggest a "protect the fortress" event or "bodyguard" arena event.How this would work? Well each time would have to be of a specific colour.Lets say all team in blue and they would select one person to be the person they need protect.He would be a different colour to be easily seen and targeted.Then they would have to survive in the arena against the other team that would be attacking their VIP.Then switch roles around.The team that kills the VIP of the other team more would win the match.

It should be good fun across all levels if some limitations came around like no tp powers and no travel powers used.It would be an all out battle with a lot tactics and a lot of room for team to create new tactics. We could have an all empath team protecting 1 granite tank or an all controller team with pets protecting another troller or even MM teams protecting 1 stalker.

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Like if you got prestige from killing the enmey or even double xp bonuses while in the pvp zones.

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I am sorry but i will have to strongly disagree on this one. This is not incentive this is severe unbalance. To understand what a good reward would be the devs should have asked the PvP community for suggestions and then take them into account.It takes a lot of PvPing to get into the spirit of what would make a good reward and what not.

The devs currently put absolutely no thought into it.
A good PvPer spends hours making builds,practising moves and generally put a lot more effort than in PvE. The devs do not reward enough for this.

At the moment there is no classification inside the game of good PvPers except an easy mode reputation farming that even a beginner can do with 2-3 days full throttle PvP.

custom ranks based on duels lost and won,special animations and powers based on zonal PvP objectives or maybe even special PvP outfits and auras would attract a lot PvPers even casual ones to give it a try. Ofc this would mean a lot of hard work from the devs to find a way provide such things in the PvE side as well to balance the game.Problem is that the devs instead of working these things out they go and announce for next issue WINGS like is the discovery of the century and Wings will be the best end game content ever.The sad thing is that a lot of people drop to their knees and worship devs for putting wings in a game and actually making it a huge deal.

Where is the end content?
Where are the incentives and rewards for the PvP?

CoP that is supposed to be also "new" game content was announced to be part of game ever since the beta of CoV.And is also included as a feature in the boxes.

The devs have a gem of a game and a concept in their hands and all they manage is ruin it by focusing in things like "wings" instead of improving game content and refreshing the game.But then again this is because their target market is USA. And even there the numbers are dropping but with a slower rate cause usa market is easier to manipulate and keep them there with a bunch of wings rather than the demanding EU market where people have a bit more refined tastes regarding what they look from a game and not just a bunch of wings to flap and keep em happy.

I am very sad to say i love this game to bits and i love the community and the devs are forcing me, and a lot more good people that have left this game and made the place feel a bit more empty every time, to look for games that actually take care of end game content and reward the players for their time put in the game rather than having what we call in management in BCG matrix a "cash cow" to take money and invest very little in it.

Sorry for ranting a bit and derailing but to be honest is very frustrating to love this game to bits and to be pushed out by the devs themselves and finding out that other games pay more attention to what the gamers actually want rather than what a bunch of devs that maybe not got much of a clue think COULD be fun.

The reason you dont see even more PvPers atm in the PvP zones is because there is nto enough incentive from the dev's side. Give people bait and incentive and they will come.Give them custom ingame titles,remove pvp reputation limits give them something to have as reward for the effort they put in pvp and yes they will come and increase in numbers.The current PvP incentive and reward system is a joke. Bounty giving SO's?please you can get more SO's by farming mission and Hamidon raids or whatever. Warburg missile powers?too bad they include a few min of PvE rather than PvP.

The problem not lies in the players only it lies in the game design as well

hmmmm sunday unfortunately not good day for me got WoW raiding obligations so will have to pass.

Good luck to all

Tbh all the zones are ok but there is no PvP reward system to attract more PvP in the zones. Thats the problem this game faces atm a lot and makes PvP boring after a while.Why PvP if there is no reward for being good at it and everyday is just same as the previous one.Nothing to aim for nothing to work for.And dont tell me 400PvP rep is hard to get.I got 2 toons with 400 PvP rep i left for 6 months game came back and did 200 PvP rep in one day almost.So nothing to work hard for

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Agreed I was there it was very funny. Esspecialy when the person who said you cant use them came out with, "I'm a PvPer and I know for a fact ispiarations are frowned upon in PvP"

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Let me guess it was a giggling stalker with the words "n00b+newb=" written on his forehead.

Zonal PvP curse and beauty at same time is that there are no rules. I keep cremating duel spectators cause well i obviously dont harass the duelers (i kill the one still standing if its a hero immediately after the duel is done)

Zonal PvP has NO rules whatsoever

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Juding by your avatar the strippers will be awsomely good

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Ehm indeed

i ll be there Mr ? depending the day and time ofc

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Depending when it is of course, might have to work etc

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You lazy git


People need to remember it doesnt matter who organise the raid. Hamidon raids are not for the HO's is more like a server wide event that community gets together and has fun. (except the leaders of the raid lol...). Xanthus goes back to uni and as soon as he is sorted out he will keep doing the raids i am pretty sure. In mean time people wanna do a raid so it can be done to have some fun, Hami is not some low spawn rate.

Anyway what needs to be paid attention to is who bring the beer and the snacks to the raids (i bring the cheerleaders but stay away from em they all mine mine mineeeeeeee)

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TG and X.... just one thing. Bugger off! Go back to WoW! This is a local game for the local people. We don't need you here!

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Smooth you old whiner. You know i haunt your fantasies still. I am local too!!! i object!!!

X dont get me started who can and who cannot.But for now: Close your eyes deep breath and listen to my voice guiding you (as always)

Wilfy....e tu Brute!!!!

*assumes Justin Timberlake position*

/cry me a river

Stand still mate.Hell even start dancing and let this guy AS u. This is not a PvPer.

Mobility is alpha and omega in PvP.

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LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE GLORAX WILL DECLARE THE DATE OF THE NEXT HAMIDON RAID

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Damn the Glorax, DAMN IT

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Ehm who let you loose out of kalimdor

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Illusion/empathy controller is better then empath defender in the pvp zones.

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Because?

Empath (look above) has added threat generation due to his name flashing miles away!

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Trust me, there is absolutely nothing wrong my scrappers or tanks slottings Plenty will atest to that

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I am pretty sure of this and is only safe to assume the scrapper is a load of [censored] then and people are actually rolling loads of tank AT's to actually pvp...this is sad if the devs managed to to do this.

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My point is simply as I made it, without crits my INV/SS outdamages my spines/regen and even my BS/SR

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Boty an SS being better dps/damage than a scrapper is highly unlikely to happen unless

a)Wrong slotting
b)wrong power selection
c)Combination of a and b

If a and b are done properly and INV/SS outdamages scrappers (Especially BS) then i blame the devs for allowing this and for actually making the scrappers useless

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As he says, excluding criticals, my INV/SS outdamages my scrappers.

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So i guess people now instead of getting scrappers in pvp teams they just get tanks to kill cause they are better damage.And everyone that rolled a scrapper for the damage now simply has the tank in team kill everything before they actually have chance to do any decent damage.Damn thats harsh on scrappers!