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Silly me kept repoting the uncommon Steadfast Protection recipes as missing back in the beta.
Personally I hope they eventually add them in at 1 a-merit each someday. I mean they let people buy the costume recipes with a-merits so I figure why not let us buy something useful? -
Quote:True story. My first 50 was a dark melee/Inv scrapper. He ran on SOs for 4 years (2 years before the IOs/markets and 2 years after). I only upgraded him to common IOs and a couple cheap set IOs. He doesn't die unless I stop paying attention to what I am doing.I still don't understand why you want to do that with a DM/Inv. That's not a build where that kind of recharge is typically sought after.
It just pains me to think that you're putting so much energy into this argument spurred by a build that isn't even getting you the best performance for the money you're (essentially) worried about.
I guess I should be crying that he is unplayable since I haven't put billions into his build. -
Quote:Well that's the thing. They only "advertise" on trial accounts so that limits them to spamming in local so they hit the Atlas market due to its ease of access for a level 1 trial account.I am surprised they're still around. I have gotten only one spam email in the past several months.
As to 'goat's post I just came to the realization the bozo spammer probably thought it was "clever" to get the attention of his potential customers by rocking the healing aura. -
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Quote:A bidder is not a buyer unless the bidder bids a price that creates a sale.There has been a near constant refrain of "Buyers set the prices" Okay. Log onto every alt you got, everybody. Bid 100 influence for every PvP I/O. Every buyer is bidding 100 for every PvP I/O. Somebody tell me when the 1st purchase happens and when all the prices are at 100. Thanks.
If no one bids enough to meet the lister's price then the listers' items will remain unsold untold both bidder and lister agree on prices.
So if anyone is willing to bid enough to meet a lister's listed price then we have a buyer and a seller.
So BUYERS set the prices not listers and not bidders. -
Quote:well just to explain my bid on this.Allow me to prove you WRONG.
I recently received a L37 Panacea Proc. This is not a real auction, but as an example, I'll open bidding at One (1) Inf. Please tell me what you all would pay for this proc, as if it were a real auction, and please be honest and bid what your character actually has on hand/liquid. The faux bidding will commence immediately and stop on Saturday, 11/13 Midnight, and the final bid at that time will be the one I accept as real. If at all possible, for the last bidder before 12:00:01 AM Sunday, please post some sort of proof that you have that liquid amount available (like showing any open unfilled bids holding enough cash on the auction house as a screenshot.)
What will this prove? I'll let another person who knows about this stuff explain what it proves (briefly, please).
I believe as a PvP proc it works like a LotG plus a purple in that it is always on and always works as long as I have the power.
With Issue 19's new inherent fitness this means by slotting it into Health it will benefit me forever and always.
It would cost me 35 a-merits which would take me at least 70 days or 35 days plus 700 million influence.
So given all that I would happily bid a (likely losing) bid of 1.5B (I'd be keeping the .5B in reserve to get some other stuff and craft it) -
Just watch movies like Iron Monkey or Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, etc.
Some naturals do what normal people can do and others do astounding (impossible) things. The natural has simply now tapped into a source of power that enables him/her to do the most incredible things. -
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Quote:I think you explained it better than I did.While this is true, I think it makes no sense to speak of a "casual" player who expects to get the best stuff in the game. You can play baseball casually, but you can't play baseball casually and expect to win the World Series.
Purples and PvP IOs are exceptional rewards, and to get a lot of them, you have to do an exceptional amount of something. If you think you are entitled to them, either you're not a casual player, or you've got an unreasonable sense of entitlement. MHO. -
Quote:I don't think you understood what I meant at all.I disagree with the "no right" part, and the "they stop being a casual player" part.
Casual vs. Hardcore is an attitude, not a measure of how skillful the player is in game.
No one has any right to any drop in the game. And no one has any right to someone else's drops listed on the market or offered for trade/sale.
And the Casual vs Hardcore is exactly why I wrote what I wrote. When somone looks seriously at getting the ultra rare loot they aren't casual any more no matter how they want to twist the meaning of the word. -
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Quote:I take Fly because I don't want the pack on my back when I fly.Yeah but there is a minuscule difference between "fly" and "fly faster." On the other hand, there is a huge difference between "fly" and "can't fly." Personally, I can't imagine why anyone would take fly now other than for a concept character. Why would you waste a perfectly good slot to get somewhere far away in 21 seconds instead of 24? I know some people who don't have a travel power at all, and they suffer very little.
I get what BlueRaptor is saying, and to some extent, I agree. The pool powers have pretty much all become blah, and the only real differentiation is in your primary and secondary powersets. -
Quote:Let them eat merits.Nice try, mister shill for the marketeer robber barons. Everyone knows you guys sit around wearing your monocles and top hats, sipping tears shed from Blue_Centurion and eating biscuits made from PvP IOs just because you can.
I'm onto you! Power to the people! -
Quote:ahem since it is in open beta I feel free to share my answer on that...Me too. I'm not sure whether I'm more excited of I19 or his next post.
Level 50 stuff is going to hit the fan in the market once I19 hits live.
By that I mean the current gap between the least desirable and most desirable is about to explode at level 50. The incarnate crazed folks (like me) are going to be playing at level 50 like there's no tomorrow at very high difficulties meaning more drops and more inf. -
Quote:But ONE is not EVERYTHING is it?I can define one, thats a certain PvP recipe that has skyrocketed so high people are resorting to selling it on the forums, soon I foresee real money being involved again like the inf sellers of past unless the devs and mods crack down on this sort of behaviour.
2bill is as high as the game allows any more than that is just plain greedy.
Plus sales don't occur at prices higher than buyers are willing to pay. I will gladly pay 100M for X but I won't pay 200M.
Also the devs added alignment merits so you don't have to pay 2B or more for those PvP recipes. You just have to either PvP or save up alignment merits.
I am not seeing this problem of which a few speak. I will tell you this if I get it as a drop in PvP I'm not sure I'd sell it on the market when I could get more off market for it and if I really wanted it and didn't want to wait in line with those only willing to pay 2B for it why shouldn't I be allowed to pay more to get it.
As long as in game currency and items are the means of exchange it's all good. -
Quote:Unfortunately Christian morals would not apply to games and that is where the disconnect occurs. Not to mention I suspect burning purse snatchers alive would be a sin as would slicing and dicing them.Last time I had this sort of discussion with Heraclea, I came to the conclusion that her morality [as applied to this game] was self-consistent, but I didn't agree with it in the slightest. It's hard for me to accurately represent a view I don't share, but I think if you start with the Christian idea that usury is a sin, and make some logical deductions from there, you get her view of the market.
Is that a fair statement, Heraclea? -
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Quote:Honestly I wouldn't think they would be fooled long by him unless they are cut from the same cloth.Troll equals Troll. Debate with a troll is pointless. Agreeing with a troll equally pointless....whats the saying on the defender forums, "Cant heal stupid", well you cant debate someone who refuses to listen
While I never came to the boards and so gloriously espoused my beliefs, I thought the market was full of manipulators and evil ness as well. Then I sold my first wing recipe for more than i could afford to list it for and a lightbulb went off. Wait...you can sell to the market as well? Madness ensued. I made my billions and continued on. It is daunting at first, but you get over it and learn.
With that in mind this kind of "I have a wonderful purpled build" vs "the market is full of evil people manipulating things so the casual player cant purple their warshade" is obvious trolling.
Really, selling for more than 2 Billion is griefing? For the record thats Petty Criminals, market masterminds, and now griefers....did I miss any other specific insults that marketeers have been called? But he's been insulted.
Pfft
Let the unwashed masses flock to this nutbag. They only reap what they sow. -
Quote:You edited my comments to support your nonsense. So before I put you on ignore I will point out how you lack the ability to comprehend what you read and to critically think which will do no good for you because you lack the ability to comprehend what you read and critically think.1) 7 years is a reasonable figure using A merits and casual drops only. 40 days (with no breaks) per Purp. 25-30 purps, depending on whether you 5 or 6 set them. that is 1,200 days for the 5 sets of purps alone. Then a couple PvP sets? Yeah.
2) So, with market prices above 2 bill for some enhancers (as you stated) , you admit that it would take over one year to afford one enhancer.
3) The ulcer thing is just nice. Shows class.
4) So, earlier you said it took you a year to get all the stuff you needed to pimp one character, without purps. But now you are going do fully purp a character in one weekend. Hmmm, someone is contadicting their own statements.
Regarding ulcers. I logically assumed your angst over the ridiculous will lead to ulcers. This happens quite often in real life for people who worry too much. I was not wishing ulcers on you. I was recognizing your attitude will bring you ulcers. This is much like saying you smoke too much and are likely to get ill because of it and you twist it in your failed ability to read as me wishing lung cancer on you.
I explained I spent one year playing to get purples on my warshade but for my grav/rad controller I purpled him over 3 days spending his earnings of 2 billion made over the course of a year. Again your failure to comprehend what you read. I didn't contradict myself but you see one because you have the reading skills of someone of subaverage intelligence. Note I do not accuse you of having subaverage intelligence I point out your reading skills are comparable to a person with subaverage intelligence.
Regarding 2 billion per enhancer and my supposed 'admission'. Why yes, if you think you need multiple 2 billion enhancers and the only means of getting them is to buy them on the market then yes that would be the case. However once again you pick and choose what you read and understand and ignore all other realities of the game. All of my experiences were pre-alignment merits.
If you need one or more of those few enhancers you have moved from a CASUAL player living on planet Earth to an extreme player living in another galaxy.
So I will put it as simply as I can so anyone who isn't willfully ignoring things will get it.
Casual players have no need, have no right and have no expectations of getting ultra rare enhancements/recipes. When a Player has the expectation or perceived need of getting those enhancements/recipes they are NO LONGER A CASUAL PLAYER.
However since you are either willfully ignoring things or incapable of grasping simple truths and have repeatedly unrepentantly misstated things without correcting yourself I can only assume you aren't here for an honest discussion of the matter.