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a few things, Like i said, your recharges from set bonuses are changing things around slightly, But i think i would go for different bonuses, seeing ice powers recharge is really not needed all that much. even with standard SO sloting you can get stuff perma no problem, and even double stacking other things. thats why i dont bother with Recharge on a stormer. I personally dont find lightning storm or tornado all that helpfull with my play styles,, on this toon.


as for opening with shiver. I find it a much better use (well obviously depends on the team) But with melee players, your tanks and scrappers head in, absorb some of the alpha, and the mobs continue to move and close in on them. THEN i drop the slick.. droping it first often leaves this way to scattered for my taste, then makes me move around toggling on hurrican pushing and its just a little more chaotic. taking a few seconds to let the mobs move closer, lets more AOE's cover everything vrs somethings being outside the radious.

shiver first, slows there attack, and move a bit, but they still keep coming. then the slick takes um out. So they fire off a few shots, who cant take a shot or 2? some might not even get there if they are more melee based, by about the time they get into range, its been enough time that ill drop the slick so they dont even fire off a single shot of anything.

While, yes any 2, shiver, snowstorm, and FR floors them, Snow is a toggle, and is also rather graphically intence, especially for other players on the team with great systems and graphics cranked. If your ancore gets killed, snow is also gone, and you must recharge. Its 10x easier to fire a shiver+FR, and not worry about a toggle, and keep them floored.

Dealling with anchores to me isnt a lotta fun most of the time, so why bother. when you can get the exact same effect in a quick click power and im not sucking end the whole time either.

I use ranged enhancers in shiver as well.. ever see what a giant shiver cone can cover? Makes snowstorm look like a PBAOE power, compared to being able to cover 2-3 groups outside for example.

Or gale hovering from above,, way in the sky, blowing from 60' + away, and sending them down on to their backs.. Ill tell ya most people might think 6 slot gale is a waste, but ill tell ya its a whole lotta fun.


For me, AA just doesnt work well as a stormer, Im never that close to the combat, unless i have hurrican on, and i almost never use the corner them style. Im much more of a push them into the middle of the room instead. this gives players more room to move, instead of being cramped into corners all night. gets really old really fast for meleers.

If i was a Ice/rad, or perhaps an ice/ta id think about AA more. Im sure there are some other combos that would work too, but for me storm just isnt one of them. Not saying its wrong to use it, just saying for me its never been an issue.


sure my ice/stormer set up might not be what others like, but ill tell you it works wonderfull. Ive been the lone controler/defender on a team many times and havent had many issues outside of someone just doing something only an empath would save um from.


(edit, i do have another stormer, that i use as a melee based character, its a fire/storm.. this one i play a totally different style.. i could see a melee set up and AA and other skills that would make it play so different.. Im not saying any way to play is wrong, or better, Just wanted to give another perspective to illistrait how different 2 players with the same power sets, can play 100% diffent and be just as effective)

I have no idea why there would be a data base issue... How could adding another 12 or 24 slots, be any different than adding another account or 2 on a server? that doesnt make any sence. My thnking if anything its less data base than adding a whole other account., as im sure accounts have more to them than just character slots.


they already have the code for the increased slots, most likely all that would need to be done would change the modifer on the limit.


I wouldnt want to make FTP accounts, for one it wont have all the content, or classes, and 2, it has none of my vet rewards. Which again comes back to data base.. with the game going FTP, how is it differnt if i made 12 FTP accounts, or bought 24 slots?

i dunno, to me the game has been around going on 8 years, and the game by nature is made for just creating tons of heroes.., Heck i would glady give up slots on other servers just to have the ablity to buy more

snow storm is an exploit? Not sure what you mean by that...



Just looking at the build, it looks like your focused way to much on bonus numbers than the synergy of the sets.

Ice/storm is mostly about slows and some blocking, and postional control. Freezing rain, snowstorm, ice slick, shiver, gale, hurrican and of course block of ice.. those are your bread and butter powers.

fire a shiver, to open, drop a slick and FR, use gale or hurrican to move stragglers onto the slick, Blocking boses, using snow storm on AV's or elite bosses..

I also find artic air totally pointless for an ice storm, and jack, if you solo he is ok, But on teams to me he is pointless other than taking an alpha on occasion, or keeping another group busy for a moment while the team catches up.. as in the case of a few groups close and the second gets agro'd

ice/storm is also not really all that dependent on recharge other than block stacking, But at 50, you should beable to get a couple bosses, or 3 leuts with no problem. there of course is always glacier for the massive lock down on emergancy

to me ice storm is all about hoving back outta the combat at range, using slows and postional, and very relaxed game play..

Just currious, I always like him.. He was really good at talking with the players and getting issues fix/looked at.. seamed like an all around nice guy.

I see positron is still around too, but was wondering about him. any other devs still here from 3+ years ago?

with all these wonderfull powers sence the last time i played, i can see my last 10 getting used pretty easily. Has there been any talk about adding more? I realize there are other servers, but when you have a base, and been working on it well sence they came out, leaving to goto a new server just isnt that much of an intersting option. As it is i have one server for villians, and one for heros. But id rather keep playing on my main as for some reason i find heroes way more fun.


Even outside the base, which is just a really neat perk/convience, its all the people i play with are on the server. Just headeing to a new server just to play a couple toons just doesnt really seam all that appealing either





Has there been any word, or talk about adding more slots? if not, have they given a reason why?

Id even pay double the amount they were charging for the first 24 extra, for the next 24 extra..


I hope this is coming in the freedom issue.. you know you want more items to sell in your store,, make one of um more slots Please.. : )

Ive only played a couple lvls of poison on a mastermind, so i really dont know the set at all...


But theme reasons...



Its a toss up.. Fire/posion, or earth/poison


I was really thinking about making a fire/rad, But now this poison might over take it. I Only have about 10 slots left to unlock, But i have a couple that im not totally in love with and are real lowbies, so they could get the axe..

for me, tankers are more of the AOE, and scrappers are more single target. Ive yet to see a tank do what kinda damage ya can deal on a scapper, but to me there is a lot more to playing than just DPS. Now take that with a grain of salt, as i havent been back to long, and in dont team with some crazzy IO build that often, so there might be slight expections to this rule.

as for someones ideal optimized team and you not belonging, dont even bother with that sorta thinking. for me anyone thats going for some optimized team is just not worth my time even if i fit exactly. they are typically unreasonable in their expectations, or just want you to play exactly how they want. Like when teams send tells asking for a kin, cause all they want is SB. For me that means avoid that team like the plauge, even though i could simply log an alt.


I just like to play on teams for fun, and the crazzier the team the better. so its not opitimal, ahh well, typically it means more fun !

not spring, I ment swift actually,, not sprint..

But, quickness+swift+sprint+hurdle+CJ.... thats what i really ment.. Seams like some major fun movement, and very pouncy cat-like..


BTW, whats ninja run?


I also saw someone running on all 4's like some sorta beast incarnate, almost like what you would think was a werewolf.. Is that from the new beast super booster?


Im really having a hard time deciding what to do.. I love this game, and love making new toons, but soo far im torn at what to spend money on. Stupid me i signed up like 6 days before july first so now im a month late on those bonus coins they are adding.. (i would of just waited to july first, to resub seeing how long ive been gone, but the announcement was litterly the next day.. Me and my classic timing)

But now im wondering if i should just wait till the freedom expansion launches, but at the same time i havent seen anything on when that is. I thought it was coming in july, but ive also erd october or novemeber.. (im definatly not waiting till novemeber to make a new toon)

great.. any time they add new powers is good news from my point of veiw.


personally id like to see something new though, Radiation armor/attack!.. i wonder about a force feild, or sonic armor though.. could be kinda cool too

well, this was on a team in the hollows, and i think we had like 5 people.. hardly something that is a lag fest.. (it was also about 2am, so population was small too)

I moved around a corner, and down a hall.. basically running from combat cause i couldnt get the heal to fire.. the button was up and it just wouldnt go off.

Perhaps it was just a bad laggy night.. Ill just keep it in mind next time i play the toon. Just was currious if there was any known issues with dark these days.

thanks people

ahhh ok.. I understand, Soo its boosting it, But its saying -5%, cause it needs 5% to hit cap.. that makes more sence.

I was thinking it was a train, so it made you fly slower, but ground travel faster. that particular toon doesnt have hover yet.. still need to respec with inherant fitness, hover will probably be a power i take as i really like the way it plays already.

Ok.. i was thinking about a concept toon.. a cat.. I know how original right? Ive had a claw/regen on another server and really liked it, but my main where i wanna make it i already have a couple of regens, so thought about something different.


Im just currious about the SR synergy with claw. I really like the idea of the quickness+spring+hurdle+CJ, But i dont really know about the rest of claw. that one shockwave power might be nice to catch a breather as SR has no heal right?

Just was currious about anyones experiance with this combo.


(PS when is freedom hitting? I really wanna wait and make a new toon with the new lowbie content)

Currious if this one exists, the train spot is only run and jump, but - fly.


anyone know of a list of all day jobs? all my old links to COH info are all out of date.

ohhh thanks for this tip.. I totally forgot that this was added.. (been gone for a while)

great tips

is there a way too turn this off? I know i play often with people that dont like bubbles, or dont want speed boost. (both powers can make people that are suspetible to motion sickness when playing) the bubble cause of its shimmer, and speed boost cause you just move really quick.

Would really suck being on a team with someone that id rather skip buffing, then make the whole team go without.

Ill try that,

But this is my tank, a dark/ice.. i was just saying i didnt have problems on my kat/dark.. never had this issue before.

Ok.. a question then.. If you go a story arc in oroboros, does that mean you basically run the arc like a task force with a group, and at the end you all get the story reward, merits, badges ect?


cause if soo thats sounds like the best way to run an evening group with a group of people that wanna spend a few hours running arcs..

also if you do arcs that way, does it unlock the contact in the main game world so you can buy insperation from them? if soo what about after you have out lvl'd the contact?

i will respond to the ice tank comment above.. My only 50 tank is an ice/fire, so i really cant compare to any other thank. Outisde of a lvl 25 stone/mace and a pair of 12's, its nice, but i really dont see it tanking that much different in the grand schem of things. To me mobility is a huge part of tanking, that and ranged taunting. Its not so much as about every single bit of agro on you, But the agro thats hurting someone else. Lots of people can stand up for themselves and deal with their own agro, or trollers have it locked down. So really all you need to worry about is the couple stray guys, that are hitting a squishy, or that pesky boss.

In the case of the STF above.. Honestly that was just about being the completely wrong defenders for that team.. a bubbler and an empaths fort does zero for a ice tanker, (though as an ice/fire i really love the increased damage+acc Fort+BU+a red or 2+firesword circle=fun!), It might push them that last tiny bit to cap, but so would any single small purple insp (i think, doesnt def cap at like 45%? its been a while). An experianced ice tanker would of realized this and swapped insp set ups like you said.. Oranges, and perhaps a few bigger greens just incase that emp didnt have AP.. (something tons of emps like to skip, but to me at lvl 50 its the only heal worth a thing, its saved more bacon than i can count)

But what i find funny is you said something about a fire tank, they can be kinda squishy over all, but to me its more of the regen tank, and you gotta use moblity as an advantage. they can also cap lethal/smashing, and with a bubbler and fort, it would of turned into a monster on that team. Boy how fun would that of been with that group : )

there is nothing wrong with using insp to tank better, just like any other toon would to be more effective. Im also guessing that tank didnt have tough either, as im pretty sure recluse is all about leathal damage, Big guy with hooks right? I kinda forget its been a while. I do know i do chew a few oranges for tough AV's from time to time, Or use the taunt+block of imperivious ice for a bit, just break out before you loose agro, its also best to time for right before, or just after his power attack. Another thing with an ice tank, often you DP before the alpha instead of reacting, if you get to low just quick heal in your blow and bust out. a few secs when slotted is all it takes.

Anyways, a rad, sonic or TA, or even a stormer would of been better teamates for an ice tank and it wouldnt have been an issue. Also for ice tankers tough+weave really helps them out. And if you have to eat a couple oranges on occasion your as tough or tougher than any tank around and half the time your not even getting hit. If you do you have 2 great heals to deal with it.

Ok, I have a lvl 50 kat/dark scrapper, So i definatly know the power set and never have had an issue like this before..


Basically it just doesnt fire.. and its not lag. I must have counted to 5 or 6, moved around, stoped, waited.. and it finally goes off. If i pressed another key like an attack durring this time, the power would fire just fine, but the dark regen would just stick and not do anything.

It works fine sometimes, but others it doesnt. Press the button, and watch the ring around the power just hold, and not do anything. Even just testing it out of combat ive watched 5+ seconds tick off before the power would fire, and not even in combat so its not an animiation stoping it.

Any clue what is going on?

Im with the other person.. any tank can work great.. its all in how its played