Spiritchaser

I do have to question if the system is working well when it's better to protect from mez with +def on a res build than it is to go with +mes resistance...

That's actually kind of reasuring.

Having worked to get a tank to 50 (I have many stalled at 30-40) after all these years, I was becoming concerned that I'd taken one that was particularly unable to deal with something really critical.

Even so... has anyone managed to protect an ele tank... or heck, a fire or dark, with mez resistance above and beyond the basic shield up to the point where it's bombproof on large teams?

So +IO def is one answer... It's one I'm hoping to avoid if in any way possible...

Do any of you have ele tanks who don't get slept or stunned into insensibility in a RWZ raid?

Do you have ele tanks that don't get into trouble if too many illusionists fire off their holds at once?

Do you laugh off Malta stun stacking?

How much +resist do you pick up to do that?

I've currently got the +20% IO and one +7.5% mez resist io slotted. I could maybe pick up a little more, but it'll really start costing what is a fairly tight build.

Static shield just cannot sustain the level of mez I seem to run into. Some ranged, some melee, all frustrating.

Sure it usually takes only one single mez buff from a team to stack onto my mez shield, but that does somewhat limit things if the team doesn't have such a buff, and malta are on the menu...

Am I somehow alone in this agony?

I figure that even with the very rare enhancement, I'm going to get 9% more def or res at most...

For def that's probably a max of 3-4 or so on SR. With the current state of def IOs, it just makes more sense to use IOs to get protection.

So: for my scrappers and brutes I'd go either damage or recharge. In most cases damage, but I'll need to think a fair bit about my ele/shield and dm/shiled, since their significant existing +damage and recharge sensitive damage potential soul drain for DM, zorchmaser 2000 for ele may render +damage relatively less valuable than it would be on other builds. My gut feel is that even for them, + damage will be the way to go.

Where I do see the +res being useful is on a resistance tank.

+res is just really tough to get from IOs, and for a fire, electric or dark tank with tough, I can see it being well worth thinking about. I'll probably take res on my electric/fire tank.

Actually i'm kind of sick and tired of stacking def, I've made a lot of softcapped crabs/forts/brutes/stalkers/scrappers etc.

I started this tank as a study in how resistance playes, and builds... keeping with that is kind of the goal.

I'm still working on my "resistance only" tanker, he's at 44 and so far I've had mixed success. While I can generally survive debuffs, I'm still running into serious issues.

I've been finding that while Carnies and Malta don't bother me with end drain, I mean hey, I'm ele/ they're more than capabable of stunning or holding my tank.

Malta's stacked stuns, and in the case of carnies, it's a wave of holds, especially with two master illusionist bosses.

Either way, I find it's surprisingly often that I end up mezzed, far moreso than with my "tanky brutes" who are admittedly all def based.

I'm curious to know if people have found IO mez resistance to be a sufficiently effective solution, or am I just going to be flat out limited to teams with mez protection buffs?

The other option would be to stack def, which I am refusing to do on this character.

I'd love to see EM/EA get ported to scrappers, and in the case of EA to tankers.

If for no other reason than it'd give both sets a much needed re-evaluation and probably some tweeks, definitely tweeks for the tanker EA.

My vote:

Stalkers are more fragile than a scrapper?
Fine compensate with more damage. I'd suggest a higher base damage modifier, as that'll get the most mileage on teams.

Stalkers are more single target focussed than other ATs?
Fine, make new content more rewarding to those who specialize in single target damage. Have a chance for EBs to replace a whack of minions in large team spawns.

Stalker's AS, and generally fast tempo/limited endurance becomes less relevant on teams?
Fine, make new content include a few mobs that really are dangerous and hard to control on large team spawns. We can already do this a little in AE content, though not in a well controlled way. In any case, this will increase the value of single target spike damage, either from scrappers, ST focused blasters or whatever... but stalkers will be especially good.

Imagine a blaster or stalker saying to a tank: Don't worry, I've got your back" and having it mean someting...

What I'm not especially interested in?

A whack of extra HP or more AoE. We have scrappers for that.

Just my two cents worth...

context: I've only ever played 5 stalkers, so my experience is limited... obviously take with a grain of salt.

I guess we haven't had any confirmation one way or the other then?

I'd love to take the body/energy mastery set, and I'm of the opinion that more variety is always good, provided it doesn't break anything.

I'm not really convinced that APPs would be broken, though I'll grant that it isn't intuitively obvious that they're fine. Probably a question worrth asking at some point...

found this thread to necro (kind of, it's not really old) instead of starting a new one:

was any statement ever made about ever getting APPs?

Were the tanker sets considered broken for Veats?

We'd certainly see more /EAs running around... take taunt and the presence pool as well and make the granites look on with admiration...

I remember everything from psi def to + regen per target in energy drain to wild and wacky control powers to... well lots of stuff

I think They could add some + regen per target into drain without much trouble, and while they're at it, put a nice big fat -regen to target on there. At least then there'd be one thing /EA could do absurdly well

I'd also love to see those +HP taken out of Overload and put in to the passives.

But hey, I'd take whatever I could get.

While I'm leveling my other new characters, I thought I'd try out the new electric set

I'm curious to know what people have found goes well with it from a playstyle point of view?

I'll be saving up my merits/inf/etc for my tank, my stalker and my dom, so whatever controller I do will have to get by without more than SOs and common, or at best frankenslotted IOs.

Any and all thoughts appreciated!


edit, just noticed the elec/rad-kin thread... I'll look there first... not sure how I didn't see that...