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There's a difference between playstyles and the blatently silly.

What I have to ask you is Shannon, would you even consider playing a tank in a PvE based team that totally defies the whole purpose of a team tank?

I think the answer would be no, but I could be wrong.

But when advice is given from those with enough experience to rival the bible combined, personally I think they are slightly loopy, but its entirely their perogative ofc. But I can definately say, those who do team with a tank that doesn't do what a PvE team tank is supposed to do, especially if the team is relying on them, they aren't going to stay in team long due to the mass amount of debt and/or boredom. Seen it many a time in a PuG, and its not going to change now. Most people on this game will not develope a sense of compassion and patience of a saint when they are going nowhere fast in this particular situation.

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for the record, that was my sister ¬.¬

only just found out

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Rofl...Infy has been H4xxd by his sis, unlucky mate

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It seems there's a hidden unlockable broadsword which didn't make mention of in the patch notes.

Actually it's two.

First time complete of the ITF grants you This Sword

Second time complete of the ITF grants you This Sword

Now I definitely need to run the ITF on my 41 BS/Regen scrapper

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You have to respect that some people are trying to learn the game, experimenting. Also at times in doing something more efficient one may have someone bodge it on you (ie herd messers) and cause you to look stupid (ie die over a longer than expected fight duration or be less buffed by number of foes) . Sometimes I wonder if put the round peg in the round hole is too major of an instruction. On the cavern trial I have had to go as far as telling people how to click on the stupid stone XD




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If someone is learning then what better way to learn than to listen to those who have done it, rather than ignore it and pretend the advice given is wrong. I have no problems with people who want to experiment, but HELL NO am I gonna team with someone who baltently ignores advice and screws over any chance of the team succeeding, and I think a lot of people would say the same.

Also can I ask what is the point of a tank, whose primary focus in a team is to hold aggro away from the rest of the team, having power choices (whirlwind for example) that screws up his ability to do that?

I have a a spines/regen at 50, and a katana/regen at 50, and currently lvling a BS/Fire which is 19 atm.

I love regen, its easy-ish (have to keep your healing button finger at the ready), spines/regen is CoH on easy mode imo. And the same could be said for Spine/WP or Spines/Fire.

You want a challenge then DA or SR is a very good choice, mind you DA laughs at Carnies and anything else thats Psi, and SR laughs at everything with Elude on

As for secondary I've pretty much tried them all, and I have enjoyed them all, so its down to you to decide depending on player preference, though i will say spines covers melee, AoE and Range so its a very good allrounder with the extra added slows. Katana/SR is a good combo (almost unhittable with parry in melee) and DM/SR with the stacked -Acc is also very good, and DM also provides a small heal too.

Entirely up to you though, good luck and have fun whatever you decide

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Leave the def to invun, ice and stone tankers.

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I wouldn't say that to stone tanks. the numbers for defense and resistance I got from mine in granite armor was around 40% defense across everything but psi. Damage Resistance you'll easily cap at 95% smashing/lethal, everything but psi resistance is around 80-83%. Have not had any major endurance problems unless there's alot of sappers.

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Shows you know the Tank Res cap (90% iirc)

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Defense on a Firetank can be worth it.

I don't, if I can help it, choose peoples powers on them. I may make suggestions. I often only alter the slotting. Why? Because I don't know what they're up to and who they play with.

Teamed with a Mind emp then getting some def is nice, because once you add their fort + maybe manuevers where will your defense be at?

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As stated extra added defense is a bonus, but its not necessarily needed for a powerset that doesn't incorporate and type of defense. The only defense i have on my fire tank is from CJ, but i only use it for the immob res, the defense from that isn't noticeable. And what you have to remember is that in your team you're not always going to be teamed with another player that can enhance your defense, which means you're going to need a solid consistent build to ensure the likelyhood of your team eating concrete is low/non-existant

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To me the OP sounded upset that everyone wasn't listening to his questions

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I'm upset that the OP refuses to listen to people who are in the know. Good advice, ignored on the mere grounds of 'that's not my question'

How about I answer that question:

Res: Capped, on a fire tank, if you're maximising
Def: Don't bother, anything below 20% is hardly noticeable.



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^ Agreed, you cannot put it any simpler than that.

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I love CoX!

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Welcome to the game, dude. Have a great time.

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Rofl, and yeah...what he said

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spine/regen or spine/fire will win this

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-I want full power costumation......
But since it has been stated more than once that this wont happen, I would be satisfied with being able to change the color of at least some of the powers. (These pink Pom Poms of energy melee come to my mind). Would give the charas more individuality.

-And maybe an alter ego system.
-Some kind of job class, where you are able to e.g. to convert one salvage into an other (there speaks a former WoW player^^).

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Wait for Champions Online then, it will have all that when it's released in 2009 (or so they say)

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I'd like the ability to assign rewards to killing certain bosses/completing certain objectives e.g Kill a boss -> get a purple/unique recipe , but this is only dreaming, but i'd still like to assign erwards for completing the mission or doing a certain objective

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I think it's more likely they'll just use the drop tables we currently have, so that you'd have to make a TF before you could use the Tf reward table and so on.

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Yeah, just shoot down my hopes and dreams of getting a decent IO'd toon why don't you!

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Hey, I didn't say it was totally certain that's what they'd do - just rather more likely

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You are more than likely to be right though *sigh*

The tip that says "Your character may be given titles at lvl 15 and lvl 30" (or something along those lines), isn't that wrong? i thought u could get the titles at lvl 15 & 25

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I'd like the ability to assign rewards to killing certain bosses/completing certain objectives e.g Kill a boss -> get a purple/unique recipe , but this is only dreaming, but i'd still like to assign erwards for completing the mission or doing a certain objective

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I think it's more likely they'll just use the drop tables we currently have, so that you'd have to make a TF before you could use the Tf reward table and so on.

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Yeah, just shoot down my hopes and dreams of getting a decent IO'd toon why don't you!

or if you want a proper farming tank make a DA/Fire/Fire Tank

In all honesty, a fire tank doesn't need def, you want as much res as possible. With tough you can get your smash/lethal res to about 70%. Leave the def to invun, ice and stone tankers. Hasten would be advisable as others have said so healing flames recharges quicker. And the whole point of a tank is to keep aggro, throwing it about with whirlwind is not helping anyone, let alone yourself. and if you want a "flurry" power use sands of mu vet reward. Drop all def based powers because they are a waste, set bonuses are just a bonus (duh ) and try to squeeze as much res out of the fire tank as possible. I've been playing mine fore 3 years and def doesnt help it

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And thats the truth, villains need empathy NOW!!


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IF Villains get Empathy, won't that make them care more about people and not attack them....

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If villains get empathy then bring back the old Defiance for blasters and add it to the new Defiance please

I'd like the ability to assign rewards to killing certain bosses/completing certain objectives e.g Kill a boss -> get a purple/unique recipe , but this is only dreaming, but i'd still like to assign erwards for completing the mission or doing a certain objective

Fire/SS
Fire/EM
Stone/EM
Invul/SS (deleted)
Invul/EM (deleted)

Get it to 50 and ask then

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mine stay's with the classics.
disturbed-stupify

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I'm pretty sure that's only a Classic if you're 10.

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And besides... Stupefy*

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Nope. The song's called "Stupify".

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Actually it's called "THIS SONG AND ALL OF OUR OTHER SONGS SUCK!"

Sorry, don't know what came over me there.

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Disturbed ftw!
Examples: Do not clicky if you no likey swearing
Another top quality Disturbed ch00n
And their best tune used in an amazing film

Anyway, i thought of another entrance tune, if i was to ever have a Thugs/?? MM it would have to be <--This-->

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Just, no.

They sound like a bunch of chimps throwing a tantrum.

Down With The Sickness is the cheesiest, most silly song I've ever heard in me life.

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This is your opinion of course and you're entitled to that, however i know many people that would say your opinion on this is total [Censored], however this thread is for posting what is your heroes/villains theme tune NOT to slag off certain bands that you do not like. Keep on topic and bad opinions to yourself if you please

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mine stay's with the classics.
disturbed-stupify

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I'm pretty sure that's only a Classic if you're 10.

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And besides... Stupefy*

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Nope. The song's called "Stupify".

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Actually it's called "THIS SONG AND ALL OF OUR OTHER SONGS SUCK!"

Sorry, don't know what came over me there.

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Disturbed ftw!
Examples: Do not clicky if you no likey swearing
Another top quality Disturbed ch00n
And their best tune used in an amazing film

Anyway, i thought of another entrance tune, if i was to ever have a Thugs/?? MM it would have to be <--This-->

Ok. Lets me get 2 things straight.

1) Using the word "pointless" was perhaps the wrong word to use, so apologies on that.
2) I'm not trying to "Dissuade" anyone from choosing anything, hence why I have stated more than once that it is of my own opinion.

My Invul tank does exceedingly well without weave or tough and its only slotted with SO's. The best way possible to find out what works the best is Trial and Error. Apologies to anyone who i have offended by posting here...

Hmmmm, good question...

For my Fire/SS tanker: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hgszWq4et4o

For my Spines/regen: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nD7GhxYzFLo

For my Fire/Elec Blaster: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VC2bstIoX4c

Can't think of any more at the moment

Its another toggle, and one thing Invul does not need is another toggle unless you want to be sitting there waiting for your endurance to recharge rather than your powers. and as for your referal to sets not everybody uses them either due to a)Don't want to or b) can't afford them. invincibility provides more than enough defense and incase you hadnt forgotten Invul also has a stupid amount of resistance. Weave, again imo, is not needed. Dont get me wrong, it helps, but tbh id rather be able to retaliate with the endurance saved instead of being a wall/pacifist

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The difference between herding carnie with and without is huge.


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And carnies are not the only villain type in Heroes, and a lot of people steer well clear of them

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Meh! I would love a Fire stalker

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Devs?! **puppy dog eyes**

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Don't get me wrong, but I have this feeling that setting people ON FIRE doesn't fit the whole "sneaky" concept. People tend to notice.

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But what if your concept was a crazy pyromaniac who likes to set fire to peoples trousers when they're not looking?

Howdy peeps,

need a bit of advice about this build. I had a play about for a couple of hours on Mids™ and this is what I came up with.
Also i have 3 LotG +7.5% rech to slot in but Mids wouldn't allow me to put them all in to CJ.
Any thoughts on how to improve the build would be ace
(PS. I have most of this stuff, just might have to pillage it from other toons )


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.40
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Shen': Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Fire Shield
(A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
(3) Resist Damage IO
(3) Resist Damage IO
(5) Resist Damage IO
(46) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 1: Jab
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(11) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(13) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance


Level 2: Healing Flames
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(7) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(7) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(9) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(9) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 4: Punch
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(15) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(17) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(17) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance


Level 6: Haymaker
(A) Hecatomb - Damage
(19) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(19) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(21) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
(21) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 8: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance


Level 10: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO
(25) Run Speed IO


Level 12: Plasma Shield
(A) Resist Damage IO
(25) Resist Damage IO
(27) Resist Damage IO
(27) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
(29) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 16: Health
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(29) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 18: Boxing
(A) Empty


Level 20: Acrobatics
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
(43) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 22: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO
(31) Endurance Modification IO
(31) Endurance Modification IO


Level 24: Knockout Blow
(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage
(31) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(33) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance


Level 26: Tough
(A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(34) Resist Damage IO
(34) Resist Damage IO
(34) Resist Damage IO


Level 28: Rage
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 30: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 32: Consume
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(39) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(39) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(39) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge
(40) Accuracy IO
(40) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 35: Fiery Embrace
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 38: Super Speed
(A) Celerity - +Stealth
(40) Celerity - RunSpeed
(42) Celerity - Endurance


Level 41: Temperature Protection
(A) Resist Damage IO
(42) Resist Damage IO
(42) Resist Damage IO


Level 44: Hurl
(A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(45) Apocalypse - Damage
(45) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
(45) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(46) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge


Level 47: Focused Accuracy
(A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
(48) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
(48) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(48) Endurance Reduction IO
(50) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 49: Conserve Power
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty


Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty


Level 1: Gauntlet
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Set Bonus Totals:
+4% DamageBuff(Smashing) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+4% DamageBuff(Lethal) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+4% DamageBuff(Fire) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+4% DamageBuff(Cold) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+4% DamageBuff(Energy) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+4% DamageBuff(Negative) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+4% DamageBuff(Toxic) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+4% DamageBuff(Psionic) for 10.8 seconds (Non-resistible)
Effect does not stack from same caster
+0.95% Defense(Smashing) to Self for 10.8 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+0.95% Defense(Lethal) to Self for 10.8 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+5% Enhancement(FlySpeed) to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+5% Enhancement(RunSpeed) to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+5% Enhancement(JumpHeight) to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+37.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime) to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+6% Enhancement(Heal) to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+5% Enhancement(JumpSpeed) to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+36% Enhancement(Accuracy) to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+238.9 HP (12.8%) HitPoints to Self for 10.8 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+MezResist(Held) 3.3% to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+MezResist(Immobilize) 8.8% to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+20% Perception to Self for 10.3 seconds
Effect does not stack from same caster
+10.5% (0.18 End/sec) Recovery to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+44% (3.44 HP/sec) Regeneration to Self for 10.3 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+2.52% Resistance(Fire) to Self for 10.8 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+2.52% Resistance(Cold) to Self for 10.8 seconds [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs]
Effect does not stack from same caster
+11% Resistance(Psionic) to Self for 10.3 seconds
Effect does not stack from same caster






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