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Quote:Though the thread has degraded to something else, I'd like to come back to this. Not only will a tanker hit better survival with less investment, it also means that character can slot more for recharge due to putting less into survival. So a tank could reach high enough recharge to make the damage over time comparable to (if not necessarily as good as) brute damage. Close enough, IMO, to burn through a farm map at nearly the same speed, without worry of face-plants.Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
To get a brute to the same level of survivability as a tank, you have to invest a LOT into it. But on the same note, a tank with that much invested is going to outsurvive the brute by quite a bit.
I would also recommend an Elec/SS Tank or a SS/Elec Brute. Yes, Fire has Burn and FE, but Electric will get you closer to making Perma-Hasten, and the closer you can get Foot Stomp to 10 secs or less, the better! And you can just do Freak farms instead of demon ones. -
Start by downloading Mids from here. Keep in mind that Burn no longer has a fear element, and that Fiery Embrace gives a fire bonus to all attacks. Then, make sure you have an idea of what you'd like to be able to do with your tank and slot for bonuses accordingly. Post your build, stating what you had in mind for your toon, and then take advice as you see fit.
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Quote:Does this mean you'll leave?Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
Those other MMOs that have a sub fee and don't produce as much content as this game used to or go overboard on numerous MTs? I don't play them. Hint hint.
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I have two words.
Bad. And ***.
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You could always, you know, type "/buycoh" and see what happens.
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I ran Grouchybeast's numbers, and I'm seeing about 1 Purple drop for every 14 kills.
Keep in mind, this is an average, so those numbers will vary.
Also keep in mind, I ran the numbers on my Lite-Brite, but it's very reliable.
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Quote:This.Originally Posted by AnElfCalledMack
Well, Malta Gunslingers are stupidly accurate...
Malta and Nemesis with stacked Vengeance can shred up defense based sets. They require a little more planning when going up against them. -
Quote:And you see no problem with a whole community knowing Clark is super-powered?Originally Posted by pmgunnerxx
Maybe I was just totally out in left field but I thought nobody said anything because after years of saving people and stopping MF plots pretty much all of Clarks classmates know about his powers.
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Quote:Considering she said all of them mention Clark, and Clark hasn't had a hero career going on in Smallville, then she can only be talking about MFs (tee hee) from during that time. Sure, if you want to make up some "could-be" situation that MFs were persistent since his graduation and move to Metropolis, you could certainly do so. But that's you doing work for the writers to cover up their mistakes.Originally Posted by Innovator
I'm basing it on the comments by the councelor before Brainiac-5 put the kibosh on her plans, that Meteor Freaks were still very prevalent in Smallville.
Keeping someone from seeing Clark lift a helicopter is one thing. Explaining away a vanishing in front of a whole crowd? Not believable. That one person doesn't consider that odd is ridiculous. It's one of the biggest problems of the show: having Clark do something unexplainable in front of people, without bothering to explain it. Then they expect us to believe that Clark actually has a secret identity after all these things he does RIGHT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S EYES!Quote:The whole Future thing and events in previous episodes shows that Lois is adamant to do everything she can to cover up anything related to Clark.
Am I not pointing out very specific things that show I did watch the episode? Am I not using rational character-based reasons why certain things are being handled poorly? I don't doubt you're watching the show and seeing everything say you are, but if you're watching the same show with a critical eye, then you'd be asking these tough questions, too.Quote:The only thing I ever ask myself when these question list pops-up, did this person see what I saw? ....I get to see a lot of things most people don't notice. -
Quote:Beat me to it.Originally Posted by Dark One
Rusty Venture.
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Quote:That whole scene and the "I'm pretty sure it was the RUSH tape" were the best among a plethora of awesome scenes.Originally Posted by Dark One
Ya...that scene...you'd think Dr. Mrs. The Monarch couldn't get hotter, but then she puts on a cheerleader uniform...
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Quote:If it's for showing it won't be freak of the week, it fails on two fronts - it implies Brainiac is taking the spot for this week, and freaks of the week haven't been around for a while. At least, not meteor freaks.
CaptainFoamerang - I think the purpose of Brainiac taking out the villain of the week was an attempt by the writers to show that this wasn't going to be a "freak of the week" episode.
Innovator - None other than set up a red-herring to make it look like Braniac was a bad guy still.
Being from a small high school whose only shining gem was its football team, I can tell you, we didn't crown the quarterback at our 10 year reunion that took us to State that year (we lost), nor did we fawn over him. Considering it wasn't even 10% of his high school life, it's a bit hard to chew down the reverence they had for him.Quote:CaptainFoamerang - And I believe Lois commented on Clark's popularity by attributing it to winning the football championship for them in senior year.
Innovator - He became more popular near the end of and after high school. He was best friend to the richest guy in Smallville, helped get the Crows to the playoffs, dated the most popular girl in high school, was in the newspapers a lot for heroics, and according to the school councelor was spoken of much by the meteor freaks that remained in school.
Good to know on Green Arrow. Still, Ollie is more often than not, getting onto Clark's case rather than looking at him as this pillar of support he needs. It's a classic example of the way all characters on this show are wishy-washy.Quote:CaptainFoamerang - As for Green Arrow, yes he does reveal his identify for the public. And regarding Ollie needing support from Clark, I think they're setting that up for the next episode, which is supposed to show Clark being in more of a leadership role for the League.
Innovator - I don't know if it's common knowledge, but he was never much on hiding his indentity, what with his lack of mask and retro gotee he got going. He's also married to Black Canary who's identity is no longer secret, and is well known to be the wife of Green Arrow.
Ok, I'll concede it's a relatively vacant area, if you can concede there was no real purpose to throw on the jacket to see his father. It's especially odd when taking into account we've never seen Clark in action with the jacket on.Quote:CaptainFoamerang - Finally, I think the shield is kinda hard to make out on that jacket, especially from far away, so that didn't bug me so much.
Innovator - No one was there. Have you ever been to a cemetary? I've been to lots of them, and I grew up surrounded by them in Colma, California, otherwise known as the city of the dead. Except for the odd funeral now and then, they don't have much in foot traffic. No one really likes hanging around them, except for us Colma kids who used them as parks, and played in them untill late in the night....much to our parents chagrin.
This assumes that Meteor Freaks remained prevalent after Clark graduated, which we have nothing to base this on.Quote:Pevelance of meteor freaks and Cloe exposing them on her wall of weird, which kinda became her legacy.
I'd really hope Chloe was more busy with where ever she's suppose to have disappeared to.Quote:Probably why she sent it. Plus Chloe knew about the reunion, and was likely keeping tabs on it.
I know you're probably joking, but there is a serious issue with Clark disappearing in front of a crowd that has their undivided attention on him. There's a serious writing issue when it goes without comment for the rest of the episode.Quote:Lois, she will be the explanation for all WTFs.
I understand fans wanting to defend everything that's brought up. If it was one or two things an episode, I wouldn't bring them up. But when you have to fan-wank a grocery list of complaints from each episode, you have to stop and ask yourself what the hell these writers are doing. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Switch_NA
dm/energy aura i had one it was horribleOdd. I've played one as well, and gotten a pretty good performance. It's also IO'd for soft-cap, so maybe it's a skewed view. But the OP is looking for a challenge (assuming with IOs), and there's not much challenge in IOing out /EA. It's extremely easy to do.Quote:Originally Posted by Suspicious_Pkg
I have one of these and will vouch for its craptacularness.
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This episode was hit and miss for me. After all the praise at the beginning of the thread, I had some high hopes for the episode. Then I watched it.
Good things:
-Clark from the future is nothing like Clark now. Thank God!
Good things that will more than likely be undone in the next 2-3 episodes:
-Clark letting go of the past (which as it turns out was his inner darkness who knew!?) and embracing his future.
-Clark delves further into his relationship with Lois. Again.
-Clark begins to hover... which he probably was not aware of, therefore making it also lame.
That's about it. I'm not sure what all the ranting and raving was for, when only about 5 mins of the episode had anything cool in it. Five minutes, that I am sure, won't be relived until the last 5 mins of the series.
Bad things (or, All the filler they needed to make a full 40 minutes of TV and other cheese):
-Brainiac mind-wiping a Freak-of-the-Week that most of us have completely forgotten who she is. I know I didn't recognize her. Is there even a point to having her in the episode?
-People acting like Clark was the high school Cpt. Popular. Which he wasn't.
-New students acting like they give a **** about alumni they'd never met, let alone hero-worshiping them.
-A FIVE YEAR REUNION. In September. In an episode called Homecoming! It would have made more sense to base it around the actual homecoming game. And being season 10, does this 5 year reunion mean that Clark went through 5 years of high school?
-An uninspired Christmas Carol rip off.
-More Green Arrow drama. Admittedly, I don't know much about GA in the comics. Does he even "come out" about his secret identity. And his reliance on support from Clark seems out-of-character since he's usually criticizing Clark.
-Chloe sending a text to a couple of kids who shouldn't even be showing up on her radar.
-No one noticing that Clark just up and disappears in a crowded room like a fart in the wind. A crowd of people CELEBRATING CLARK!!! I mean, really? No one stopped to ask "WTF just happened?"
-Clark standing in a public cemetery with his Blur Jacket on. Sure, he's yet to use it in a situation we've seen, but come, dude. It's got the FRIGGIN' S-SHIELD ON IT! And why are you wearing it to your dad's grave anyway??
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Quote:I think we're in agreement. It's just misleading outside of AV situations. I think 15% would be pretty good. But I think it would have to be +1.11% base for everything after, so that after ED caps, you're still at %50 and not over it. I know, it's splitting hairs, but I'm guessing the devs would want to maintain the overall same values. Though, I'd be happy with the 15/1.5 numbers, myself.Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
It's not misleading. If you're fighting an AV, you only get one target, and even if it's up every 15 seconds, that 5% won't be enough. I think a good way to fix this is like you said, front load the heal. Maybe make it a 15% heal + 1.5% for every target in range beyond the first. Enhances to almost 30% + 3% per, right?
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Quote:Like I said, I don't like cloning other sets powers. I'd only accept it if making an End-Discount Aura was out of the question. But even that should have a debuff added to it for two reasons: 1. Layered mitigation would be helpful. 2. Thematically, it would make no sense as to why it draws aggro without at least some debuff or dmg in it.Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Rylas had the conserve power rework idea. I don't like the idea of replacing it with conductive aura, as that's more electric realm than energy. Even if you give it the same effects, call it absorption aura or something. Of course, that would be a lot of work, since they'd have to come up with a new animation.
This feels misleading. A properly slotted tank on SOs would have that down to 30 seconds. Also, a properly aggro-oriented tank should be able to get more than 5% heal. I'll admit that always getting 50% is impossible, but 30%-50% shouldn't be too difficult. I will say, the heal should be front loaded. The first hit should get more, taking into account that AV battles tend to provide less fodder.Quote:The heal, while fast recharging, is still on a sixty second timer. .... Even on a high recharge build, you're waiting probably 20 seconds to heal 5%.
Well, admittedly, DA on CJ/Tough/Weave on SOs is going to need more heals than EA on with the same set up. Of course, that's my perception of how they play differently, I could be off-base. Feel free to correct me if I am.Quote:I've got a DA tanker that can fill his health bar every 17 seconds, and every once in a while, even that's too long to wait.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- *gasp* -OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Quote:Actually, I still think the tanker should get a taunting repel. That'd be a great (fun) way to tank, knocking things all over hell while rolling around like a disco ball on dyne. -
Quote:Honestly, defense number-wise, I don't see a need for changing anything. Yes, you could soft-cap with CJ/Weave, but you're still not getting the HP or resist numbers that Shields provide. It's heal is dependent on the number of foes in range, so you're not guaranteed 50% heals all the time. It seems very comparable to Shields to me, if not at a slight disadvantage without a taunt aura.Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down
While it is true that SD gets you quite close to the Soft cap (positionally) at a bit over 40% with CJ and Weave you're not sitting at it or over it without additional help. So as easy as SD is to get you soft capped, EA with tank modifiers would be that much easier. In my mind to easily.
Again, not saying I wouldn't like to see it ported over to tanks.
I also like Dechs' ideas for changing it up for tanks.
I didn't take any offense, I figured there wasn't any intended.Quote:Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Only because Narlok's a friend, and that was framed almost as an insult. I know I've pretty much said the same thing to other people, and I meant it as an insult.
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Quote:Wait... why would you hate to say I'm right!?Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Hate to say it, but Rylas is right here.
Were I at home, I'd like to find out. Here at the office on a Mac, I can't use mids for comparisons. I would agree, defense-wise there's a lot of similarity. But where Ice gets it's plus HP, EA would get it's defense to more types and it's heal with a shorter recharge.Quote:Speaking of that, someone care to do the comparison between tanker ice and brute EA? I have a feeling that, with modifiers accounted for, the two will compare rather closely.
Having run a DM/EA brute that was soft-capped to all but Psi, I can tell you, it's very sturdy. Putting Tanker HP numbers behind it would only bolster that durability. Though the set should be balanced off its own merits, so the taunt aura would be a good place to add in some layered mitigation through debuffs. If placing an end-cost increase is possible, it would be a debuff. But it might need a -end component as well before seeing any benefits from it. That's why Electric Control's Conductive Aura may be an easier option. Added regen would certainly be beneficial, and -end will certain help maintain aggro.Quote:EA has its hurdles to overcome to be a "good" set in my eyes, and proliferation would mean the perfect chance for the devs to take a second look at it, just like with Electric Armor. EA needs a more consistent way to stay alive. Of the other defensive sets, Shields has +HP as a passive (along with resists) and Ice has a non crashing +HP power (along with -dmg). EA only has a very minimal heal, repel, and endurance drain (which ice also has). Conserve power is still nigh worthless to EA characters, and redundant with tanker APP. -
Quote:Again, just because you can't make it work, doesn't mean others can't.Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
I could not, however, make EA work for me.
CJ is only one power choice. Weave costs you three, but you can get Tough as well. As previously stated, that will soft cap you on a tank, easily. I'm not sure what slotting you "don't agree with" but 3 def IOs and an end reduction (which isn't that necessary in EA) aren't terribly heretical when it comes to taking those powers. You wouldn't have to invest in IOs at all, unless you wanted to.Quote:One: I don't have enough time to soft-cap any of my characters. I find that in order to do that I have to take powers I don't want and slot things in ways that I don't really agree with.
Being Brute numbers, and your distaste for taking power pool powers to better optimize your survival, I can see how you'd have problems.Quote:Two: Maybe on a tanker the defense numbers would be better. I got a SS/EA Brute to 39 before deleting him out of hate. He wasn't soft-capped, but it still felt like I was running at 10% defense constantly. He got hit way more than any of my other defense-based characters and when he got hit he got hammered. This was, of course, before the heal added in to the siphon.
CP is redundant, hence the suggestion I made. But you can't completely change the power from its original purpose when making changes to a set, something the devs have expressed an avoidance of. Look at the changes to ELA and it's CP power. They still kept the end cost reduction of CP.Quote:Conserve Power is already redundant in the set, what with the AoE endurance siphon. It'd need to be changed anyway in order to not conflict with the APP's. In all honesty the set itself needs a serious change. If it stinks on a Brute it won't be much better on a Tanker.
You keep making arguments from a personal view, which has little-to-no value in overall view of facts. With SOs, /EA hits reasonable defense values on Brutes, especially if you take the CJ+Weave. Placed on a tank, it's a very strong set. All it needs is an aggro aura. You don't need any of the things you've mentioned to make it viable. In fact, your "reasons" to make an EA only point out that you refuse to use options available in the game, like A-Merits and the market (both of which use up very little time).Quote:Right now the only reason to roll /EA is if you have a crapton of time, sweat and money to put into it OR if you're rolling it because it's nice to look at.
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Quote:Wrong.Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
You don't want it, trust me.
And trust me, there are people who would play it well. Just because you can't make it work for you, doesn't mean the sets no good. A soft-capped /EA brute is very durable. And soft underbelly? It comes with a AoE heal, so with Tanker HP numbers, you're going to be doing just fine. If that's not enough for you, then go EA/DM as a tank, and have a secondary heal as well.
I'd love to see this set come over so long as they found a way to make a taunt aura. My suggestion would be take Conserve Power, switch its tier with Energy Protection and to make this change:
The power keeps a lot of its original purpose without changing it too much. I'm not sure +end cost is a penalty you can apply on NPCs, but just change it to -rec/-end if so.Quote:Conservation Aura - Taunt aura, +end discount per foe in range, +end cost for foe.
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One of my pet peeves on the road is people who seem to be magnetized to other cars on the road, despite the fact that the road is relatively empty.
For example, nothing irks me quite as much as when someone pulls out from a parking lot and gets into my lane, causing me to slow down abruptly or swerve, even though there were 3 empty lanes to choose from aside from my lane.
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At this point, I'm just going to hope someone else has a more epic fail of starting another thread about it.
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Well, at least we made it on the map.
We're a small country, but we do get a fair share of exports from the Troll Bay. -
Quote:It's accurate portrayals of high school life that make me reconsider my ideas of reliving my younger years. I'm glad his new ability extends past just math, and it appears he's retaining a lot of when he learns, considering in past episodes he said he didn't.Originally Posted by Wayfarer
Overall I thought it was a decent episode though it was a bit painful watching JJ try to get the girl to like him by pretending to be Jewish.