Rubberlad

Ooooo that reminds me. I found a nasty clipping issue with the Fish Monster boots and normal tights. You can see right clean through the kneecaps at the join! I took a screenshot of it - where's the best place to email it/report the issue?

(goes to fill out survey in the meanwhile)

TOTALLY disagree - and said my peace about it in the Make Your Case thread.

All I'll say now is: at some point, folks need to keep in mind that a zone's environment/themed atmosphere can be a huge draw or a complete deterrent to players using the space regardless of how great the content located there seems to be. The content on red side is pretty damn good in most places (not all though) however the zones themselves need a cosmetic "flip" from slums to extravagance to in order to make them more attractive for exploration by heroes *and* villains.

No villain in his right mind is going to steal from the rich and then go back to living in a slum... (and why would the players spend time exploring the slums either?)

After a good night's sleep, I realize now that *a lot* of potential zone revamps got ignored for discussion - but there's only so much they can accomplish in a single session. What's stranger still though that really obscure zones like IP and Striga got mentions at all... (although turning Striga into co-op/red side zone did occur to me, I figured it was so low priority for an already near-perfect zone that I didn't think it was worth mentioning).

I guess there's no such thing as a common "obvious" for a player base of this size.

I agree to a point - the powers and costume workshops were riveting, although I really think the crowd chose the wrong powerset to work on. Watching the summit on uStream was rough - not a lot of visuals, not a lot of new info and tons of people talking out of view/earshot in the audience and very little commentary from the devs. Last year I remember tons of slides, tons of dev chatter, and questions left to the VERY end for 10 minutes. I think the program this year was weak, and here's some options I'd recommend to make it more interesting:

- Keep the powerset panel but consider "design armor, design mastermind set, etc" - break it up by ATs
- Keep the costume set panel - its perfect as is
- Keep the zone discussion panel more "dev focused" less Q&A - give equal time to discussing difficulties of renovating red side
- Add a marketplace reveals/improvements panel
- Add a Mission Architect reveals/improvements panel
- Add a QoL discussion panel
- Add a PvP discussion panel

Even if they're not able to make immediate improvements based on player wants/desires, its still good to have discussions about these legacy systems. Otherwise CoH will get the reputation of constantly adding systems it doesn't support in the long-term.

I'd also recommend for the Ustream crowd that dev mikes be turned off unless they're in use. Too many times I heard aside/private conversations that weren't meant to be heard and they echoed over the actual speaker(s) trying to make a point/share information.

And last but not least: DO NOT PUT A Q&A as the focus of the ENDGAME panel - it was more questions/aimless audience chatter and less Dev-driven answers and very, very painful to watch. Leave the Q&A until the end and try to have a better, more focused agenda for the front-end discussion. That last session was EXTREMELY painful to watch and you could tell both the Devs and the audience were zoning out by the end.

That said, the Devs did a good job with what agenda there was and Zwill was a great moderator. Thanks all for taking the time and effort to make the summit happen.

I agree - although I'm extremely mad not one red size zone argument was presented (or if there was I was AFK when it happened). IP is soooooooo not a zone worth the time right now.

I'm also pretty disappointed with that crowd in the room for voting radiation armor over throwing weapons. TW would have been a GREAT powerset to build with the playerbase. RA is pretty limited for optionable design in comparison.


Ah well.

Ha! Was gonna say you must be from Pennsylvania then I saw your locale (I spent 12 years growing up in various parts of PA and photographed a lot of abandoned steel mills, so I hear ya).

No, I mean like an underground CITY... Whole buildings, abandoned parks and train cars and the lot all under an enclosed roof... Its been done in the 60s Spiderman cartoon and an episode or two of classic Scooby Doo. There's also an underground city in Seattle which I'm sure the devs are familiar with (its very small scale but it is there).

At this point, any Year One city zone that gets a refresh needs to provide a unique experience from any other zone otherwise players won't bother with it. Doesn't mean they all need to be scrapped but it does mean the devs need to have a unique concept already in mind to make the refresh worthwhile.

IMHO, you'd have to do something really extraordinary with KR (like turning it into an underground city, for example) in order to justify keeping it around at all. There are just too many other Year One city zones that do a same or better job than KR.

We lost Galaxy City didn't we? (Which i'm sure was not an easy decision). So what's the big deal? Focus on improving Steel and Skyway and throw Kings Row down a crack in the earth (and wouldn't it be cool to explore a secret underground city zone...).

No question, it absolutely does. But i'm not sure what purpose the zone actually serves other than representing a slum community. You could say the slums are better represented by the Lost in Skyway City, and just do away with Kings Row completely. Gameplay wise, aside from earning the raptor pack, i'm not sure what purpose Kings Row serves - and Id hate to see development time/resources wasted on a dead end zone everyone bypasses on their way to somewhere else.

She SHOULD have one! Stop the forces of First/Night Ward spilling over into Croatoa!

Do we even need Kings Row anymore?

There are so many ways for heroes to zoom from lvl 1-10 without even touching Kings Row now, I'm not sure that this kind of revamp should be a priority. The same can't be said about red side zones which have a one-way journey for villains until lvl 20. This is another reason why I advocate a red side fix. I really do think more folks (heroes, vigilantes, rogues and villains alike) would venture/play there more often if there were more to do. And its anti-cultural to assume there can only be one way to play this game (ie let's not focus on red side because villains are a minority culture...).

If red side revamps can't happen, then at least make Striga/abandoned hazard zones more lowbie/co-op friendly so lowbie villains can also enjoy.

The idea is that a red zone revamp could increase numbers - *if* there was more incentive to play over there. By all means, make all future red zone revamps co-op. There are enough rogues and vigilantes running around to merit joint content in any zone. But red side zones especially are in need of a makeover...

As for the Shadow Shard, methinks I'll be happily surprised this weekend...

That's all great for the usual stagedressing props (costumes, powers, zone makeovers, etc) but it does feel like the end for any new game functionality or systems. In my heart, I was still holding out for a new "custom foe" or "npc faction" system but no chance of those now. Don't get me wrong: i'm grateful for what we've got and what we've yet to get in the Incarnate system but beyond that?

Eh, hope still springs eternal for I24 and beyond.

Agreed, but for different reasons. I'm far more interested in Shadowhunter's pecs than I am Penny's bosom (which doesnt even come close to her gi-normous a**.... Put it away, girl. Put it away!!!)

Not big on Mecha, but I do like the new chain mail armor. When is this becoming available?

All true but maybe somebody at some point could take a look at the cost of crafting "decoratives" for bases?

Slow field has some INSANE requirements (both resource-wise and cost of prestige) and in the end people only use it for faux-waterpool effects. Little things like this could use a quick eyeball I'm sure and improve base QoL greatly in the long run (and with minimal effort).

GREAT, great powerset! I agree with this list of weapon customization alternatives though - particularly the Icicle. That's just brilliant. Hopefully the Devs can find time in the schedule to make this happen.

50% off character slots?! I'm so there!!!

That's the space kook villain from Scooby Doo.. You know, the one that tries to scare everyone away from the abandoned airfield so he can buy it dirt cheap then sell it back to the government at a hefty price...

Like Halliburton does. >}(

Already rolled, just waiting for the set to go live.

Now that's some good stuff.

Kinda weird to think we're wrapping up Cole's Praetorian invasion arc but maybe it was time. That and the death of Statesman is a whole lot of "epic change" to happen in one year. I applaud it because it means the game is still quite a lively and vibrant investment for Paragon Studios and NCsoft (Begone, evil doomsayers!) but it also means they've got a long trek ahead trying to nip/tuck the legacy content to reflect these changes.



That said, if I can put on my fortune teller's head gear for a sec.....

(stares into crystal ball and sneezes)

Whoops, sorry! I see....

1) Issue 24: Shadow Shard revamp
2) Issue 25: Arachnos Rises! (or Arachnos vs Enemy X Battle Royale) which may/may not include a Rogue Isles Revamp

I won't look too much deeper as I'm liable to break the ball, lol.